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wrm 2015-09-10 09:18

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
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Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1481920)
Do you know you can arrange running apps by dragging it, like in launcher?

But can we get patch, to have them arranged like in SFOS 1 version?

bluefoot 2015-09-10 09:24

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1481929)
Did it not do that before? I can't remember. If so, then it was Wrong™.
Returning one step back is more intuitive than back to the start.

It's not returning you to the start, it's pushing you to where you never were or wanted to be in the first place. Current public release and prior return you to home screen, as stated. I almost never use the app grid, as it's a waste of time and looks incongruous and unfinished. Now you're forced into it at every turn. Hence one of the reasons why I won't continue using 1.1.19 (it'll stay on my backup).

KylliOrvokki 2015-09-10 09:24

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
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Originally Posted by Fellfrosch (Post 1481921)
How can I silence my phone now. Some Guys here talk about a powermenu. But when I press the Powerbutton for a longer time, my phone shuts down. There is no menu.

One option is to press volume button down until phone is silent. I like this new option.

Also I like that with 2.0 volume button is working quite nicely. When you have music playing it affects to that.
And othervise it affects on ringtone volume. I like to change it from time to time so its now much more usefull.

anidel 2015-09-10 09:28

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
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Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1481923)
Swipe down from top border of screen and choose your "silent" ambiance.

Yeah but that changes the ambience itself. I miss the quick Silence sounds one.

pichlo 2015-09-10 09:43

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
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Originally Posted by bluefoot (Post 1481932)
It's not returning you to the start, it's pushing you to where you never were or wanted to be in the first place.

Are we talking about the same thing?

I open the app launcher ("app grid"). Tap on an icon representing a folder. Change my mind. Tap on an empty space. Voilá, I am back in the app launcher. Exactly where I was before and where I wanted to be.

bluefoot 2015-09-10 10:25

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1481937)
Are we talking about the same thing?

I open the app launcher ("app grid"). Tap on an icon representing a folder. Change my mind. Tap on an empty space. Voilá, I am back in the app launcher. Exactly where I was before and where I wanted to be.

No. The 4 favourite apps / folders. That are only now accessible when no apps are open on the homescreen. It should be optional / default to keep them pinned as previously. There's also no reason for the black / unthemed background to intrude, unlike previously, and unlike before it forces you into the app grid proper if you go 'back' from there.

pichlo 2015-09-10 10:50

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
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Originally Posted by bluefoot (Post 1481946)
No. The 4 favourite apps / folders. That are only now accessible when no apps are open on the homescreen. It should be optional / default to keep them pinned as previously. There's also no reason for the black / unthemed background to intrude, unlike previously, and unlike before it forces you into the app grid proper if you go 'back' from there.

Aaah, that! OK, now I'm with you.

I personally prefer the app launcher as it is. It makes it more obvious that it is a menu and not part of the home screen. Unlike the previous situation which was rather confusing. Now that the home screen can scroll if there are more than 9 apps open (I know, very unlikely with the OOM problems), you need the separation.

However, I agree that the four favourite icons could be done differently. I would not miss them if they were abolished altogether, for the sake of consistency. But the ideal state of affairs would be having a separate desktop and apps manager, like on the N900 or on any desktop or even any other mobile since the dawn of time. Then you can put as many favourite icons there as you want.

KylliOrvokki 2015-09-10 11:03

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
I would really like that 4 top to be showed like it is when your "multitasking" view is empty. If you just press quickly it will show those 4 apps/folders.

One could then have multiple most favorite apps open and then access to 4 different folders -> just by clicking empty space.

ste-phan 2015-09-10 11:05

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1481954)
Aaah, that! OK, now I'm with you.

I personally prefer the app launcher as it is. It makes it more obvious that it is a menu and not part of the home screen. Unlike the previous situation which was rather confusing. Now that the home screen can scroll if there are more than 9 apps open (I know, very unlikely with the OOM problems), you need the separation.

However, I agree that the four favourite icons could be done differently. I would not miss them if they were abolished altogether, for the sake of consistency. But the ideal state of affairs would be having a separate desktop and apps manager, like on the N900 or on any desktop or even any other mobile since the dawn of time. Then you can put as many favourite icons there as you want.

Instead of extra static space full of favorites icons, I like this dynamic behavior of the favorites menu as it is now (tap on empty home screen to bring it up shortly).

Only problem is that it has not been fully implemented and it does not work as soon as 1 application is minimized.

Why not have a single tap on empty space to bring up 4 items favorites menu for 1 or 2 seconds? There will be enough empty space thanks to OOM and frankly favorites menu should not be limited to 4 or a single row. Let the user decide this.

Alternatively swipe up shortly from bottom for favorites to display for 1 or 2 seconds which are clearly seperated by a horizontal line from other apps.

As long as you keep launching favorite applications, focus stays on favorite menu.

Longer swipe will then bring up the full grid.

Full grid of course should be animated by translucent ambiance backgrond, not black :eek:

aegis 2015-09-10 11:58

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
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Originally Posted by bluefoot (Post 1481915)
I really hope they actually listen to feedback this time, and at least allow us the option to customise the experience, if they don't change the default one.

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