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I uninstalled DialCentral (via Application Manager), deleted the .dialcentral folder, hard rebooted, and reinstalled older versions of DialCentral all the way back to v1.0.4-5 (I did the above process for each "downgrade"), which is the version I know for sure was definitely working at one time on my N810 with my same GoogleVoice config.

None of the older versions worked and the same thing was happening. Some of the older versions wouldn't even successfully login to GoogleVoice. So this appears (just from my common sense point of view) to be something that Google likely changed that now prevents DialCentral from working properly with GoogleVoice.

Is everyone aware that the Gizmo Project is now owned by Google? Does this mean we will likely start having problems with the Gizmo+GoogleVoice workaround that we're all using?

-- Chris

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Definitely looks like the Google side... : /

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Sorry for not getting back sooner on these, I've been out of town for the last 4 days. It will be another couple before I catch up and am able to investigate what is happening.

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WHAT? You have a life outside of working on DialCentral for us?!! :eek:

Just kidding. No hurry from me. Let me know if I can provide more info for you. ;)

-- Chris

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Actually, no I don't, it was related to Dialcentral.

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What are you doing goofing off here??? Back to work, grunt, or no more geeky museum visits for you!

:p

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People have been having Gmail issues, and I was asked to change my password yesterday, so it may be a Google issue, as texrat seems to also speculate. Maybe try later or tomorrow to be sure. Wouldn't wanna waste all of this time for nothing...

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Thanks for testing!

See b

Dialcentral does not have auto-refresh. It was never designed for real-time communication. You have The One Ring to look forward to to get supportt for that.

To see new messages you have to refresh by holding down the active tab. Soon I will add support for doing this by Ctrl+r

Could you file a bug on notifications for the n900?
https://bugs.maemo.org/enter_bug.cgi...ct=Dialcentral

EDIT: Added quote from mikhmv

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Thank you for your thorough analysis. The difficult part is I am not seeing anything immediately obvious in my source code or in the GV pages. On top of that, I have not been able to use with Gizmo account with GV or Dialcentral for months making this a situation I can't really test. I do know sipgate offers free numbers and has been working well for me...

Is there an adventure some person out there that has this issue, feels comfortable with the command line, and feels comfortable changing 1-2 lines of Python?

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potential new icon? thoughts?

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@epage:
Looks like I'm finally getting my n900 tomorrow; happy to test whatever you'd like on that or my n810. (and TheOneRing whenever you have a test-ready version). Just point me in a direction and I'll see what I can do; have gvoice and various gizmo accounts (as well as an asterisk box and some other VOIP toys).
@joshua.maverick:
That's lookin' good. Have you looked into Maemo 5 themes? I'm in the dark here, but I think it might be easier/more efficient to bundle up a theme than to modify individual apps. Having some really polished themes would be great for the platform, but I'm totally without creative capability. :/

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Yea I was going to work on a theme next, I've managed to come up with some nice button styles, so that's going to be my next task. Any good references you know of?

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Looks could.

Could you provide several sizes. I would guess 26x26, 48x48, and 64x64 would suffice for the different needs.

EDIT: I am mixed on one aspect though, the box around the tablet. What do you (and anyone else that wants to pipe in) think on it?

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Sounds great, I look forward to it! I take it you are aware of the risks and are willing to enable extras-testing? Any familiarity with the command line such that you would be able to help in resolving the Gizmo issue?

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I was originally going to put the network type thing you have on your original icon, but then I thought it looked nice and simple. I updated the rounded square a bit, take a look.

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Have flasher-3.5, will travel.
I'm fairly *nixish so cli stuff shouldn't be an issue. What's the current deal with Gizmo? I'd love to be of assistance, but I'm not getting much when running from the shell-several 'orientation' messages and one ConIc - con_ic_connection_send_event message when I first open the app; nothing new when I try to dial. I'm in 1.0.8-6, will check for updates and play around later this evening. Anything in particular I should try? Is there a verbose option somewhere for logging?
I'll read up on this thread a bit later and try to get caught up.
Thanks for a great app. :)

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Complicated Stuff: Not Needed for Most Use Cases

Logging generally goes to file (~/.dialcentral/.dialcentral.log) but when doing active debugging you can run it such that logging is printed to the console.
I'm trying to have built an updated version with a tiny bit more debug information printed. In the mean time you can checkout the svn directory, copy the "src" dir over to your n810 and run "dc_glade.py" directly.

I don't submit numbers the exact same way as google (I leave off the "+1"). So one thing to try is to gainroot and edit
and change the line
to
And if you want to *really* get into low level
That will download most webpages Dialcentral uses to the current directory. We can then use that to see if mine is different and why.

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Sounds good, I'll give those a shot and see what we end up with. It looks like this could get rather spammy; would it be best to post my results here or email/pm them directly to you?

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Email might end up being best, especially so you can be lazier about censoring things (if you feel like trusting me ;) )

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That would be great and will be much appreciated. Definitely miss the GV integration with Android. Sounds like it will work similar to GUAVA.

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So, about not being able to use a Gizmo number as a callback number in DialCentral...

Does DialCentral do anything different when it tries to use a Gizmo SIP number as a callback number (vs. a landline or cell number)?

The ? icon next to "Phone Type" when setting up a new forwarding phone in the Google Voice web interface has the following to say:

When I set this up some time ago, I selected Gizmo -- that's why it works at all. I removed the Gizmo entry and added it again to no avail.

But, shouldn't using a 747-xxx-xxxx Gizmo number require something different to be done in DialCentral? I mean, you can't call a 747 Gizmo number from a landline right? It's SIP-only?
Or is DialCentral just making a selection made available to it from GoogleVoice?

Anyway, let me know if this totally has nothing to do with anything, and sorry for the bother if I'm way off base.

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I'll be testament to that! Saved my butt the other night.

Have Flasher will travel reads the card of a man....
He saved my phone with a line of commands

Oh Jiiv, Jiiv, where do you roam?
We need you quickly to resuscitate our phones...

(I bet alot of the young guys have no idea what I'm talking about...)

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I sort of am just making a selection that is already available.

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Oh, dear...this doesn't sound good at all for getting DialCentral working again. I'm a very techie person who is very used to the command line, but not so much in Linux and I'm definitely not a developer/programmer. I specialize in implementing and even supporting the hard work of others (haha), which can be quite a job in and of itself.

But what am I missing here, because in thinking about it I don't seem to be too bad off. Please correct me if I'm missing something obvious. I can make a call from my N810 (or PC) by simply going through the Google Voice website. If I want the call to be forwarded to my home number, I can do that or I can have it forwarded to my Gizmo SIP and use my N810 for the call. Receiving calls on my N810 through Gizmo works fine. Sending and receiving SMS messages through DialCentral works fine. The only thing I can't do is use DialCentral for dialing out (I have to go to the Google Voice website). So, at worst, I'm doing about two more screen taps dialing out through the Google Voice website versus DialCentral, right?

Okay, what am I missing? Why doesn't everyone just do it by way of the Google Voice website versus a 3rd party dialer like DialCentral? I have to be missing something here.

-- Chris

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And the problem is even more limited to Making outbound calls through Dialcentral with a Gizmo number. If you use a landline, cellphone, or something else like a sipgate number (free) then there is no issue.

Dialcentral was originally written to provide calling arbitrary numbers which GrandCentral/GoogleVoice did not have support for within the UI back then. its sort of grown over time to make other things convenient with a finger friendly interface. Its kind of mixed of whether it is better to use Dialcentral or the website. I hope The One Ring will close that gap and make it an obvious choice. Unfortunately I had my trip last weekend, all these bug reports for Dialcentral and some for Quicknote such that I haven't been able to get much done on it. I am taking a break from main development to try and get some tests done to make my development more efficient (and to help debug when people have issues)

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

my remaining gizmo credit was cancelled last week (it expires after one year if you forget to add to it before then, so mark that in your calendars!), and since i bought new credit this week i've been unable to call out through the gvoice website using gizmo as callback #, which worked great until last week.
none of my own settings were changed. (i don't have DC installed since i don't use sms.)
looks to me like google is messing up the software (?)

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Actually, the only functionality I now get out of DialCentral is SMS, Contacts, and History. Even when I set the callback number to be my mobile phone or my home phone instead of Gizmo, the call does not go through and does not show up in the history. If I use the Google Voice website, I can successfully use Gizmo, home, or mobile as my callback number without issue. Something definitely seems broken (or changed) between what DialCentral is giving and what Google Voice wants.

Is everyone else reporting problems in this thread only having problems with Gizmo callback or all callback #'s like me (only when using DialCentral)?

epage, please don't view my previous post as "what is DialCentral good for?" I just re-read my post and realize it might sound negative against the app and that we should just use the Google Voice website -- that wasn't what I intended to communicate. I really like DialCentral and would prefer to use it rather than the Google Voice website. My question/statements were meant to be more like "If DialCentral isn't working for me at the moment, am I missing a lot by just using the Google Voice website as a temporary solution/work-around?" I hope I didn't offent you, as that was not my intention.

I wish I could be more help with this. I'm use to being more of a solution provider than "whiney customer" (if you can call me a "customer" when I'm using a free app!).

-- Chris

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Google acquiring Gizmo is a recent thing, right? I think they're messing with the whole thing right now and about to merge everything into Google Voice instead of it being two separate things. That's probably when they'll start charging for dialing out on Google Voice as well. ;)

So far, I can still do everything just fine from the Google Voice website, no matter what callback number I choose. So far being the key words in that sentence!

-- Chris

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Only having a problem with Gizmo here..Calls that I have routed through my Mobile work just fine and show up in the Recent History in DialCentral.

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Don't worry, I jusst added my statement for clarification. I didn't want someone coming onto this thread and thinking "OH NO, Dialcentral is completely broken". I guess I didn't catch that it was broken for all callbacks for your and not just gizmo. The fun thing is google rolls out updates incrementally meaning some users will have it, some won't. There was one that broke almost all users but me and through some patience and help from fellow users I was able to get it to work.

I'll try and double check some files someone emailed me to see if they giv me a clue. If not I might have some "basic" steps I would like to help step you through.

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epage, for me the problem appears to be with voice.google.com/m.
From the main website I can place calls without any issues, but from the mobile version I'm not getting anything (and I noticed that Dialcentral seemed to be using the mobile version). I get the same problem whether using my mobile number or gizmo.
I just tried them back-to-back from then900's browser and verified that (for me at least) the normal gvoice site is fine, mobile isn't.

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 

Just ran across pygooglevoice, it might be worth a glance.
Also, Add Google Voice to Empathy.

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That doesn't really add GoogleVoice support to telepathy.

As for the libraries, it shows parts of the API I wasn't aware of. Overall the API is good, I just don't like the implementation :(

EDIT: I think it might even have a bug...
NM I found the GALX hack

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OK, I just started looking myself and figured I'd pass those along. I'm pretty useless when it comes to python, but glad that there's maybe something good there for ya.
...GALX hack?
Not to derail, but is there anything in particular you'd like for me to try out in TheOneRing? I know it's early yet, but I'm happy to try out whatever pieces you have ready.

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There was a change to the google login process that required a token called "GALX". This was a nasty issue because it was a problem for everyone but me. It took a while to resolve.

I would say The One Ring is still a bit early for any kind of testing. I'm slowly building up a hybrid manual / automated test. I'm just moving on to contacts before going for the hard stuff, texting and calls.

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jiiv, you're really on to something here. just as you said, for me too, the regular gv site works - but calls placed from the mobile site all of a sudden won't. thanks!

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This is exactly the problem. I have addressed the issue in the google voice forums, please anyone who is experiencing the same problem report it here:

http://www.google.com/support/forum/...f32fb6fc&hl=en

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hello epage, ive been testing your dialcentral on n900 since the first date i got it. Everything working fine, but i just dont know how notification works. Please advise.

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gavin8or:
Just added my comment. Hopefully we'll get some attention soon...

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There might be issues with it right now. As soon as I get to everyone's login problem (which stealing code from pygooglevoice might help) I'll look into this.