Originally Posted by Mize (Post 1196535)

The chance that you've met many Germans is zilch.
I have partners in Germany (2 locations), Poland, France and Switzerland with roughly 100 employees total and not one iPhone. Oh, I actually go there just like China (6-12 times per year to Asia). Did I mention that out of 20+ employees in China not one has an iPhone? Nokia dominates with Android second and domestic phones third (advantageous as most can accomodate 2 SIMs).

Lumiaman, you are just a troll. Some fatass, Big Mac-eating embarrassment for whom US folks who travel often have to apologize.

Can't someone ban a poster who never does anything but troll?

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1196544)

What a troll. You just got owned bud.

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1196520)

The Germans I met, waving their.iPhones, dismissed Nokia as a lost Dinosaur. No one cares there about Nokia phones. Its become a.class issue in europe. Well to do have iPhones, and not so well to do have Nokia's.

Originally Posted by specc (Post 1196533)

You must be the biggest troll of all. This is actually worse than Ahonen. At least Ahonen is a raving lunatic, and does not pretend to be anything else, but this "article" is pure nonsense. I could easily purchase the cheapest Android phone running gingerbread I found and started arguing that ICS does not exist, and never will, because this phone does not run ICS. And then I should end it saying Android is doomed.

I don't like Win8 either, but please!!!

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1196563)

I know why you are so whiny....you just jealous that iphone users have more....wait...more lovers!!!

http://www.news.com.au/technology/sm...-1225903964497

what do NOKIA users have? more headaches, lagginess, stuttering, interferes with ones love life :)

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1196563)

I know why you are so whiny....you just jealous that iphone users have more....wait...more lovers!!!

http://www.news.com.au/technology/sm...-1225903964497

what do NOKIA users have? more headaches, lagginess, stuttering, interferes with ones love life :)

Originally Posted by Zoxir (Post 1196565)

Dafuq??????

He's saying that WP 8 wont have AD what does that have to do with upgrading the OS???

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1196520)

Its become a.class issue in europe. Well to do have iPhones, and not so well to do have Nokia's.

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1196476)

I'd say that Levi's would be a study on marketing hype. Nothing special about the 501 jeans... but the hype surrounding it made each and every person in Europe that knew when I was coming there to request for a pair or three on my trips from the US.

Originally Posted by specc (Post 1196582)

Exactly. Read the article, it's FUD. Or since you obviously need to be fed: WP8 won't have AD = false.

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1196563)

I know why you are so whiny....you just jealous that iphone users have more....wait...more lovers!!!

http://www.news.com.au/technology/sm...-1225903964497

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1196563)

what do NOKIA users have? more headaches, lagginess, stuttering, interferes with ones love life :)

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1196588)

This thread has run so far downhill, anything will be considered up from this...

Can we go back to some semblance of an adult conversation again?

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1196511)

did i say they are in first place? I said close. Reread my post before misinterpreting what i said. You don't make any sense.

Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1196596)

Or... iPhone users are more likely to be sad, desperate souls that have to resort to computer dating.

They probably then spend the whole evening boring their date by trying (and failing) to demonstrate Siri so they don't even get a sh*g out of it either.

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 1196589)

That must have been quite awhile ago, since it was old news and no longer true when I moved to Russia in 2001.

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1196476)

Meanwhile, Miller/Coors/Bud... even Americans know those are crap beers. I don't drink those beers even when they're on sale. I don't damn sure drink them when I go to Europe - better exists for cheaper.

But the counter to that, Heineken. In the states, it's seen as a beer with prestige. It's not... it's a cheap beer in Holland and many better options exist. In the states, it costs quite a bit much more and folks equate that to something special.

Originally Posted by MINKIN2 (Post 1196480)

However nearly every European also has a Nokia device that we can't seem to part with. Granted that many of them will be older handsets now and stuffed away in their junk draw, but they are loved. These phones are generally seen as their reliable "back up" phones and if you were to ask them what was the best phone they ever owned? They would still point to that device and follow it up with an anecdote of how "from all of the phones they have owned, their aging indestructible Nokia that still works today even after they dropped it down the toilet and drove over it too, is still the best phone to date".

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1196638)

I've been traveling and living overseas for periods of time for quite some time (read: I'm old)

I'd say that was true in the 80's and 90's. Doesn't make it less true since it's not recent.

Originally Posted by zwer (Post 1196648)

This thread has gone downhill, so while we're at it...



I do feel sorry for the USofA folks, the ones that enjoy beer that is. Most of the US stores are stocked with something that can pass as beer only if you haven't actually had beer ever in your life. The best beer I've encountered in the states was ironically Kingfisher (Indian, lager) which says a lot.

Sure, if you are persistent enough you can find some of the acceptable European beers, but it's insane through what loops n' bounds you have to go in order to get a decent beer in the US. Don't know about the west coast, but from personal experience - it's easier to find and get pure cocaine than a good beer in Chicago, and even in NYC.

As for Heineken, that's a scam beer - massively marketed as premium lager, but of hardly any quality. I mean, it's not a bad lager, but in any objective comparison it would land in the 'cheap', binge-drinking category. It still is tenfold better than what passes as beer in the US, tho, especially Miller which can be considered rainwater at best. What I don't get is that the Netherlands have other quite good mass-scale beers, why the hell did they decide to push Heineken? I mean even Amstel is quite better, let alone Grolsch...

Personally, if I am ever to permanently relocate to the USofA, one of the requirements to even consider the target city is for it to have at least one proper Belgian pub.

Signed: beeroholic :rolleyes:




So true... I hardly know of any person that doesn't indulge in reminiscence about how sturdy and reliable were Nokia phones back in the day. Especially the legendary 3310. "You drop it down the stairs, it splits in 10 pieces, you put them together and it still looks and works like new!" is something I've heard thousands of times.

Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1196584)

It's the complete opposite in the UK, the iPhone is a chav status symbol.

Research has shown the iPhone demographic to be low-skill, low-pay, low standard of education.

This is consistent with what I see in my own workplace, all the iPhones belong to the staff on the factory floor. Management have Symbian, Blackberry or Android.

Originally Posted by zwer (Post 1196648)

I do feel sorry for the USofA folks, the ones that enjoy beer that is. Most of the US stores are stocked with something that can pass as beer only if you haven't actually had beer ever in your life. The best beer I've encountered in the states was ironically Kingfisher (Indian, lager) which says a lot.

Sure, if you are persistent enough you can find some of the acceptable European beers, but it's insane through what loops n' bounds you have to go in order to get a decent beer in the US. Don't know about the west coast, but from personal experience - it's easier to find and get pure cocaine than a good beer in Chicago, and even in NYC.

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1196658)

LOL. Whose research? YOurs? LOOOOL

Here is some research mate:

http://www.marketingcharts.com/direc...althier-13778/

Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1196653)

I would be ok with spending a six pack of Sam Adams (your choice) explicitely for you :D

There ares o many smaller and micro breweries in the US, if you look you get _really_ nice brews.

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1196658)

LOL. Whose research? YOurs? LOOOOL

Here is some research mate:

http://www.marketingcharts.com/direc...althier-13778/

Originally Posted by zwer (Post 1196648)

let alone Grolsch...

Originally Posted by bandora (Post 1196683)

Wow, Lumiaman you really have to read more about Symbian.. You're talking crap about Symbian when you actually mean the S60 UI (Avkon).. Symbian (as an OS), is a very modular, powerful, and very efficient OS!

But with Nokia's poor method of execution (having multiple Symbian teams competing internally against each other and not organising things correctly) has resulted into what "Symbian" is all about up until now.. Before you say anything else.. You should probably use Belle FP1 and see how smooth and fast that is... I'll grant you one thing though, the browser still sucks (I don't know why they're sticking to the same old Nokia browser), but that's why there's Opera Browser!

Anyways, I'm going to add you to the ignore list, just because your are arrogant, ignorant, and quite racist at the same time..

Originally Posted by Mize (Post 1196667)

From 2010.
Do you need me to educate you on how much the smartphone market has changed since June of 2010? Can you even legitimately compare Android from 2010 to today?

Originally Posted by bandora (Post 1196683)

Anyways, I'm going to add you to the ignore list, just because your are arrogant, ignorant, and quite racist at the same time..