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ChiaOwl 2009-06-13 12:56

Re: Introducing console-tools v1 (install-tools replacemement)
 
In my dreams, GeraldKo :). But thanks for the kind words!

Chiaowl

gerstavros 2009-06-14 12:38

Re: Introducing console-tools v1 (install-tools replacemement)
 
Hi! After destroying my system and losing some important files and also erasing the internal memory (i don't know how this happened), i decided to take more seriously the reliability of my tablet. So i decided the following:

1)a Maemo for hacking etc (:pdestroying:D) on the systems memory (the default)
2)a cloned Maemo for serious use on my memory card:cool:
3)probably in the future Mer on my card

-Is that OK?
-Will i have problems with the cloned maemo (which i want stable and reliable for serious use):confused:
-Will my memory card be destroyed sooner because of the big use?
-Does penguinbait' s tool work on the latest maemo (43-7)?
-Is there any newer version than the one on the first post?
-Is there something else i have to notice?

Thanks!!

Un27Pee 2009-06-14 13:13

Re: Introducing console-tools v1 (install-tools replacemement)
 
congrats ChiaOWL welcome to Linux varsity.

bunanson 2009-06-14 13:23

Re: Introducing console-tools v1 (install-tools replacemement)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 295678)
... Unfortunately, I haven't used it with the latest OS; I'm not positive it will work right...

Yes. :o

bun

geneven 2009-06-14 13:49

Re: Introducing console-tools v1 (install-tools replacemement)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerstavros (Post 296569)
Hi! After destroying my system and losing some important files and also erasing the internal memory (i don't know how this happened), i decided to take more seriously the reliability of my tablet. So i decided the following:

1)a Maemo for hacking etc (:pdestroying:D) on the systems memory (the default)
2)a cloned Maemo for serious use on my memory card:cool:
3)probably in the future Mer on my card

-Is that OK?
-Will i have problems with the cloned maemo (which i want stable and reliable for serious use):confused:
-Will my memory card be destroyed sooner because of the big use?
-Does penguinbait' s tool work on the latest maemo (43-7)?
-Is there any newer version than the one on the first post?
-Is there something else i have to notice?

Thanks!!

In the message you linked to, you say that you don't "want" to reflash. In this message you say that your system was "destroyed".

How do I get Maemo to destroy my memory card? I've been trying for several years now without success...

All joking aside, the traditional preventive for losing important files is backing up. This is often mentioned even with flawless operating systems such as Windows...

gerstavros 2009-06-14 14:20

Re: Introducing console-tools v1 (install-tools replacemement)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 296580)
In the message you linked to, you say that you don't "want" to reflash. In this message you say that your system was "destroyed".

How do I get Maemo to destroy my memory card? I've been trying for several years now without success...

All joking aside, the traditional preventive for losing important files is backing up. This is often mentioned even with flawless operating systems such as Windows...

I finally reflashed;). As about the backup, i have a question.

Consider that i have taken a full backup of my maemo on the system's memory, the jffs2, with pb tool. If i cannot boot this because of a mistake (like my problem), how can i restore the system using the tgz of pb? I need to have usb-networking? Is there any other way to access the system's memory?

GeraldKo 2009-06-14 15:21

Re: Introducing console-tools v1 (install-tools replacemement)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerstavros (Post 296583)
I finally reflashed;). As about the backup, i have a question.

Consider that i have taken a full backup of my maemo on the system's memory, the jffs2, with pb tool. If i cannot boot this because of a mistake (like my problem), how can i restore the system using the tgz of pb? I need to have usb-networking? Is there any other way to access the system's memory?

I think you should reverse your plan from your post #222. Keep the system memory OS safe and stable; do your experimenting on the cloned system on the SD card. Make a clone of your SD card (ideally, a literal SD-card clone; or else a backup of the whole card, including the OS). Then, if you destroy the SD card, you just put in the clone.

gerstavros 2009-06-14 15:42

Re: Introducing console-tools v1 (install-tools replacemement)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 296589)
I think you should reverse your plan from your post #222. Keep the system memory OS safe and stable; do your experimenting on the cloned system on the SD card. Make a clone of your SD card (ideally, a literal SD-card clone; or else a backup of the whole card, including the OS). Then, if you destroy the SD card, you just put in the clone.

I thought of that, but 1) i need more free space 2) i don't know how to restore a system memory maemo with pb tool.
I ask again, can i access system memory from another os, ie mer, or a cloned maemo?

GeraldKo 2009-06-14 17:53

Re: Introducing console-tools v1 (install-tools replacemement)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerstavros (Post 296592)
I thought of that, but 1) i need more free space 2) i don't know how to restore a system memory maemo with pb tool.
I ask again, can i access system memory from another os, ie mer, or a cloned maemo?

Huh? You need more space for what? You're aware that both OSes can access all the files stored in the FAT partition on the SD card?

I don't think PB's Tools do what you're asking.

gerstavros 2009-06-14 20:38

Re: Introducing console-tools v1 (install-tools replacemement)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 296627)
Huh? You need more space for what?

I like some qt apps, but just qt libraries need more than 30 Mb, and i have 20 free...
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 296627)
You're aware that both OSes can access all the files stored in the FAT partition on the SD card? I don't think PB's Tools do what you're asking.

I donīt understand what you mean. I ask if i can access the systemīs memory that has maemo in compressed jffs2, when i cannot boot it. I think that the answer is only usb-networking with bootmenu, but i canīt find how to enable this...


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