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sony123 2011-03-02 19:37
Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rm42 (Post 959045)
I frankly don't know anything about the iPhone 5. So, I have some questions about it. Some of my questions apply to both the iPhone5 and the N950.

Will the iPhone5 have an FM transmitter? If it does, will it have the range that the N900 is capable of?

Will the iPhone5 have an application that allows one to edit ODF and Microsoft formats?

Will the iPhone5 have a music player that supports ogg files and is as good as Some player?

Will the iPhone5 have an offline GPS that continues to work even when I am out of my carrier's data range?

Will the iPhone5 have multitasking as good as Maemo/Meego?

With the iPhone5 will I be able to use mass storage mode on any computer regardless of operating system and regardless of what programs are already installed on it to transfer media files?

Will the iPhone5 have a removable battery?

Will I be able to purchase an unlocked iPhone5? At what cost?

Just a few questions off the top of my head. I may have more latter.
Well, first of all I am not an Apple fan.

I plan to keep N900 to see how Maemo/Meego development go and use as a skype home phone/music player. N900 will keep the geeky side of me satisfied, so for the next phone I am looking for something that just works to complement N900.

I'm going off-topic so I will stop here. I cannot wait to see N950, but it's near impossible for me to buy it considering the uncertainty to the Meego world and the questionable support from Nokia.

When we bought our N900, at least the future looked all bright and all promising.

XWY-15-J-697 2011-03-02 19:39
Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
at 6.36 there is some strange device - if you have a look at names you can find "Nokia" as on of the contacts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtNV0...eature=related

can it be N950 ???

Rauha 2011-03-02 19:47
Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
Nokia's big bonus offer doesn't seem to be working (was a Nokia Meego chief). Propably better for Meego in the long run, that these kind of people are jumping to Intel.

zimon 2011-03-02 20:23
Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 959130)
Nokia's big bonus offer doesn't seem to be working (was a Nokia Meego chief). Propably better for Meego in the long run, that these kind of people are jumping to Intel.
They'll get better salary and future somewhere else. Elop's "only one Meego and out" -strategy (tragedy) just do not work. And N950 is not going even to be Meego -device, but Harmattan one. There will be problems to install real Meego applications to this device by n00bs.

daperl 2011-03-02 20:59
Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by XWY-15-J-697 (Post 959125)
at 6.36 there is some strange device - if you have a look at names you can find "Nokia" as on of the contacts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtNV0...eature=related

can it be N950 ???
Very unlikely because I'm pretty sure that's an Android device.

nilchak 2011-03-02 23:19
Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kralde (Post 958740)
@Danramos:

The N900 can do things that the other phones cant do at the moment. Few androids can dual boot, even triple boot like the n900 (meego,maemo,android), also you can install ubuntu,windows....etc
Also it OS is 99 % open source...android its not comparable to maemo, android itd an OS for the common people, but with details and suppor for developers, but maemo its fully for developers. you cant compare android and maemo,never.
Fralde, not to not give credit to the N90 hackability, but most people would like to see and use a functioning phone for quite some time as a stable product - not dual boot and triple boot to show off its prowess.

Thats is where the N900 comes out short - as a regular usage device which works and has support and apps.

As a hacking device I agree N900- comes out winners , but hey ...

nilchak 2011-03-02 23:29
Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EzInKy (Post 959054)
Odd as this may sound to you, this is exactly why you should support open over closed. Forget commercial apps, they are a dead end in the long run. Companies exist to make money and to do so they have to take money from you. That is a win/lose proposition because as soon as your money becomes meaningless to them compared to the potential billions available from others they will drop you like a hot potato.
I think you are over simplifying the open/vs closed in the case of a device mfrs.

While softwere is much easire to develop and distribute as a open source / open model, a good polished hardware like a smartphone is much difficult to produce/manufacture and distribute as a open model.

Unless Nokia commits to the N900/N950 etc whcih supports open software, you wont have a device to run your open model on.
If Nokia (or any company) drops that support of the device, slowly over time the open software development for the platform will also vanish ... why you ask ? Cause users will buy devices which are more current and hance the open software has no ecosystem to thrive in - not on a age old device anyway.

The Sharp supported Zaurus is a good case - great ecosystem and open development around the Zaurus, but once Sharp dropped the ball with the Zaurus devices, the open development community slowly vanished and is gone now. And I dont use my old Zaurus anymore either - cause there is newer better hardware.

As for manufacturing an open hardware platform - thats a whole different ball game. Only OpenMoko came anywhere close to that model and still couldn't compete with closed hardware manyfacturers.

So its more complex than just an ideological issue.

glassflag 2011-03-03 07:51
Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 959282)
As for manufacturing an open hardware platform - thats a whole different ball game. Only OpenMoko came anywhere close to that model and still couldn't compete with closed hardware manyfacturers.
Aava Mobile's hardware is completely open, and their phones look amazing.

If only they'd release them to end-users I reckon they'd stand a chance.

gerbick 2011-03-03 08:03
Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rm42 (Post 959045)
I frankly don't know anything about the iPhone 5. So, I have some questions about it. Some of my questions apply to both the iPhone5 and the N950.

Will the iPhone5 have an FM transmitter? If it does, will it have the range that the N900 is capable of?

Will the iPhone5 have an application that allows one to edit ODF and Microsoft formats?

Will the iPhone5 have a music player that supports ogg files and is as good as Some player?

Will the iPhone5 have an offline GPS that continues to work even when I am out of my carrier's data range?

Will the iPhone5 have multitasking as good as Maemo/Meego?

With the iPhone5 will I be able to use mass storage mode on any computer regardless of operating system and regardless of what programs are already installed on it to transfer media files?

Will the iPhone5 have a removable battery?

Will I be able to purchase an unlocked iPhone5? At what cost?

Just a few questions off the top of my head. I may have more latter.
Not picking on you... however even if the iPhone 5 had all of the above, people would still nitpick against it because of the closed ecosystem or something petty... like Steve Jobs.

Your needs are different than quite a few other folks (read: the people that bought the iPhone in the past)

But at the same time, it's damn nice that you have a set of likes/dislikes that is quite specific. Let's see if any phone/gadget delivers everything as you've described in full, final and supported ways from whomever - be it Nokia, Apple, Samsung or whomever.

geneven 2011-03-03 08:39
Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 
We have seen how Nokia acts when it drops a device. If you want that experience with the N950, buy one when it's ready.

I predict that it will be harder to get fixes out of Nokia than ever. Before you have time to blink, Nokia will be focused on selling its upcoming Windows phones. When customers have complaints, Nokia will say that the N950 was designed as an experiment,
not as a smoothly working phone, and this was announced long before it was even released.

How are you going to argue with that?


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