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Do you mean the menu icon in LXDE? Then see http://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian#LX...enu_Disappears

To the 2nd question: Synaptic only refers to packages installed in the Debian image - it's got nothing to do with packages in Maemo, so it's completely safe! If you screw up, you can just reinstall qole's Debian image and start over. If you've got enough memory in MyDocs, you should perhaps make a backup of the image file there to save the time for downloading again and unpacking qole's image.

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you mean all those women aren't enough?? ;)

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i have the same problem as BN900, at least if he's talking about the "menu" key (top left) in lxde.. it's just.. missing :) this happened after i updated to Easy Debian v0.9.46-1fremantle1.

help?

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Yes, I didn't notice before, but since the update, my LXDE doesn't even show up, it only shows the "Ctrl-back to return to dashboard" text....

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Yeah, my wife and preschool daughter are more than enough... ;)

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NoX, olympus:

Does this part of the wiki help you?

LXDE Top Menu Disappears

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qole, no, I put a fresh m5-v3b img again in MyDocs and it does the same, but it's not only the menu, the desktop doesn't start at all, so I can't create a new panel or anything...

The message for the keyboard focus appears, and after it, nothing happens...

The only way to exit this state is to press power and go to phone (I have spanish desktop and CTRL does not work in LXDE), then I can close the Easy Debian window

Anyway, all the other apps works ok

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yes, i installed m5-v3b and now it works just fine, thanks qole :)

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Hi. guys. I want to download this easy debian app. i checked easy debian wiki and it tells there that i need to download the eas-deb-chroot which is in extra-devel. I checked it on my app manager and I can't find that app. I did open my extra-devel repo and extras repo but the only the things i saw is the easy-debian and easy-chroot apps... can some pls tell me where can i find the easy-debian-chroot package.

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easy-chroot is easy-debian-chroot. it's just abbreviated :)

sorry, actually "Easy Debian" is easy-deb-chroot. Easy Chroot is the more generic package without the included applications.

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thank you.

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I have a question. I did open the debian image installer. I put in on a Micro SD card. after the download is finished it says that it will extract and it will take time. But after i pressed "ok" its doing nothing. It says that the "background image option specified without filename". what's that mean?

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NoX:

Open a Maemo terminal and type the following:

This will try to launch LXDE. Please send me the output from the debbie command.

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chase:

When it says it will take some time, you have to press OK and just wait until the phone buzzes and flashes and announces that it is finished.

Where is it saying "background image option specified without filename"?

Hopefully you let the decompression finish and you didn't try to open LXDE while it was still decompressing...

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I would say, put it in your resume! :D

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I tried to make a ubuntu lucid image again, and it was still unstable. Maybe its compiled with options that the architecture of n900 doesn't like.
But I found this on debian about openoffice 3.2
http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-o.../msg23454.html
So maybe the openoffice 3.2 isn't so far away for armel on debian.

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Qole and Rehbana!

Thanks you :) I fixed it from the inside. I owe you one.

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hey Qole, think nothing of it. i'm surprised that you've only received 3 donations. come on people. the man (shallow assumption assumingly) needs to eat to continue developing this awesomeness!

And yes, the "ctrl-dot" trick works like a charm. to this day, i'm still so amazed at seeing GIMP run on a mobile phone.

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Hi

Finally, I got it working, just by changing again the .img and rebooting a couple of times... nothing changed, so it remains a mystery to me :o

But I have to say than now the keyboard works ok for me in the LXDE, in somewhere I saw that it didn't so it's a glad surprise :-) anyway it has the US layout, I tried to change it to spanish, as it says in the wiki, but it didn't work, i will keep trying...

Although now the desktop works, I'm attaching some screenshots if they are of any help

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NoX: I notice that the name of your image file is missing the .ext2 at the end.

The full name of the image file should be:

debian-m5-v3b.img.ext2

If you change it to the correct name, don't forget to change your .chroot file, too, if you modified it.

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Yes, I changed the filename and I also changed the .chroot file

I extracted the file in my PC and I didn't know it mattered, later I found out it was necessary and modified the .chroot instead of adding the extension...

I have
IMGFILE=/home/user/MyDocs/debian-m5-v3b.img
IMGFS=ext2

And if I didn't say it before, it's just great the work you are doing! Having a full debian in the phone is priceless!! :-)

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Qole is inkscape availible on Easy Debian. Was thinking I could do some portable theme making.

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can someone please help me. I downloaded easy debian from extras. then after i install it. i run the debian image installer.. it downloaded an img file about 280+ MB.. i put it on home/user/MyDocs.. then it asked me to extract the file... i pressed ok then it starts to extract... but the problem is.. it doesn't continue extracting... and it just hanged and nothing is happening.. how can fix that?

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it can take quite a while to extract the image, up to 2 or 3 hours (worst case). just be patient, it'll finish.

you should notice a high CPU load during extraction, that's a good indicator that it's still working.

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oh...that's hella long... anyway, thanks for that...

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Yes, Inkscape is there, and it works, but it isn't as responsive as Gimp.

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I found out, that my desktop breaks when I do the
dpkg-reconfigure locales
once I do it, the LXDE stops working, anyway it's not a big issue

About Inkscape, the biggest issue is that the window does not fit in the desktop, I can't see some icons and the color palette. The Ctr+"." doesn't work for me, I suppose due to the spanish keyboard, so It's difficult to do some things

And one question... would it break easy debian to upgrade it to unstable repositories??

Edit: OK, the Ctr+. thing was pretty easy... I have to press the "ñ" key because there it's where the US keyboard has the dot... :D

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I've installed open office on the N900 and have had some success with it, especially when taking advantage of the excellent advice in this forum, but I have now hit a wall trying to get the equation editor to work. My guess is that that the equation editor is not properly
installed or I need to somehow turn this option on.

Appreciate the help!

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With some languages there is a problem with the script /usr/bin/xephwm5 as hstende found out:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...456#post539456
So you would need to edit this script in the Debian image.

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qole I have been having trouble with Easy Debian it seems to be problems uncompressing the file. I gave up a few weeks ago but even after a reflash this week it still doesn't work right now its just telling me unknown lzma error.

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great!

I will try this when I get home

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you can download and extract it in your computer and then, move it to MyDocs, it will also be faster this way

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This is the option I am currently trying although I selected it to download now its just sitting there getting file information. Has'nt even started to ask me where I want to save it yet. I am doing this from work though(large corporate network) so will try again when I get home.

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Jayelzibub: If you download the image file on a desktop computer and then extract it on the desktop computer (using something like 7zip), you just have to plug in the N900 via USB and copy the debian-m5-v3b.img.ext2 file to your N900 and you're done. You don't need the installer.

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@Qole: a quick question.
This image, when uncompressed, will be mounted as a loop device? Where are changes saved, when they happen inside the debian chroot (installing applications, etc)?

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soeiro: Yes, the image is mounted as a loop device. The file contains a complete read/write Debian file system. Most changes are saved in this filesystem, so the changes all happen inside the image file.

Note: there are some Maemo directories mounted as part of the chroot (including the user's home) so it is possible that changes can be made to some files outside the chroot, as well.

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@nox: did hstende's fix also work for you (in Spanish, right?)

@qole: I would guess that this little modification of /usr/bin/xephwm5 (i.e. replacing Information by Info in grep) should work for the majority of languages. Information translates to Information in German and French, while in Italian you have informazione, in Spanish información, etc etc.
So perhaps you could simply apply this little fix to the current v3b image, without any ado of a new version number? I think that would solve this issue for a large number of nationalities, though probably not all.

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Why don't I start making a v3c or v4 image? Any other changes needed?

EDIT: I was hoping for the return of openoffice.org 3.1 or 3.2 to Debian before making a new version...

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That would require a new installer and new easy-deb-chroot version, too, wouldn't it? That's why I was thinking hstende's "Info" fix should better be included immediately in v3b without changing the version number so that the many people downloading over the next 10 days are not bitten by the same bug as nox was now when they follow the instruction in the wiki to install locales.

Other changes would certainly deserve a new version number. For instance my suggestion of setting most of the environment variables in the image instead of the debbie/debian scripts: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...552#post572552

Personally I would also leave the sticky key hack commented out in the LXDE startup script (since it makes Ctrl sticky as well which I find very annoying).

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No! That's the beauty of the new installer! It downloads a text file from my site which contains the information for the files available to download. Once I have a new image, I just update the text file on my server, and everyone will start downloading the new image file.