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kelljaso 2010-01-16 13:40

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Can anyone tell me how to access the company directory. I have Mfe connecting and syncing to our Exchange 2003 server no problem but when pressing the "To" button in a new email I only get the contacts I already have on the phone with email addresses. I thought there was a button here to check the company directory going by other posts.

Other phones we have at work HTC, Nokia and Iphones can all search the company directory.

If I go in contacts and "Get contacts" when selecting "Import Mail Exch Contacts" the search box that appears doesn't search the company directory at all.

Can anyone help/point out where I am going wrong?

vitaly_repin 2010-01-16 13:44

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelljaso (Post 476146)
Can anyone tell me how to access the company directory. I have Mfe connecting and syncing to our Exchange 2003 server no problem but when pressing the "To" button in a new email I only get the contacts I already have on the phone with email addresses.

Yes. This is valid behavior.

Quote:

If I go in contacts and "Get contacts" when selecting "Import Mail Exch Contacts" the search box that appears doesn't search the company directory at all.
Could you elaborate a little bit more here? This is exactly the place where search in GAL is initiated.

kelljaso 2010-01-16 14:13

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vitaly_repin (Post 476151)
Yes. This is valid behavior.

Could you elaborate a little bit more here? This is exactly the place where search in GAL is initiated.

So there isn't a button to select search company directory when send a new email?? This maybe me misunderstanding how Mfe is meant to function here. The reason I say this is in this link

http://maemo.org/community/brainstor...ectory_on_mfe/

It says in the link there are 2 tabs when clicking the "To" button - is what is said in the link wrong??


With Import Mail Exch Contacts
If i search for example my managers name, the company directory is not searched, after about 3-5 seconds the search box disappears and returns me to the Contacts list of the phone.

Thanks for your help

floffe 2010-01-16 16:24

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBootroo (Post 475897)
i did the 51 upgrade yesterday and i still can't synchronise my mail and agenda from my gmail account !
i've seen that mfe 2003 is supported in 51 fw so wtf is the probleme this time ???

Google isn't Exchange 2003, and still not supported. Some people are lucky and get it working, others don't.

kaz911 2010-01-16 16:32

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Please add following features

* Selective Folder Sync (let us select which folders to sync!)
* Mail Move to another folder
* Ability to delete a mail after pressing the "Yellow" notification - that is grayed out. You have manually enter Mail/Inbox to delete unwanted mail..

IlkkaP 2010-01-16 16:35

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelljaso (Post 476199)
With Import Mail Exch Contacts
If i search for example my managers name, the company directory is not searched, after about 3-5 seconds the search box disappears and returns me to the Contacts list of the phone.

Thanks for your help

I tried Company Directory, and it worked for me. The procedure is a bit clunky, as you need to do the following in order to call a contact in the company directory:

1. Select Contacts
2. Select All Contacts menu
3. Select Import contacts
4. Select Import Mail for Exchange contacts
5. Enter name
6. Select Search
7. Select desired name
8. Select Import
9. Search the just imported name from all contacts
10. Select the just imported contact
11. Select the phone number you want to call

There are 11 steps and you have to search the name two times, first in the Company Directory and after you have imported the name, it has to be searched again from the phone contacts. The process could be streamlined, i.e if you import just one contact, after importing you should go directly to that contact's details, which would remove 2 steps.

Rob1n 2010-01-16 16:36

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kaz911 (Post 476433)
Please add following features

* Selective Folder Sync (let us select which folders to sync!)
* Mail Move to another folder
* Ability to delete a mail after pressing the "Yellow" notification - that is grayed out. You have manually enter Mail/Inbox to delete unwanted mail..

For selective folder sync, install mfefolders - it enables you to select which folders for MfE to sync. And mail deletion is related to modest (or tinymail) rather than MfE - see https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5417 (fixed in PR1.2 apparently).

kelljaso 2010-01-16 17:01

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IlkkaP (Post 476439)
I tried Company Directory, and it worked for me. The procedure is a bit clunky, as you need to do the following in order to call a contact in the company directory:

1. Select Contacts
2. Select All Contacts menu
3. Select Import contacts
4. Select Import Mail for Exchange contacts
5. Enter name
6. Select Search
7. Select desired name
8. Select Import
9. Search the just imported name from all contacts
10. Select the just imported contact
11. Select the phone number you want to call

Yeah, that's the way I have been trying but after "6. Select Search" the "Searching Contacts" appears but then just returns to the list of contacts on my phone, no error message, no return on the name I have searched for. Synching email, calendar, tasks working fine etc just the contacts importing thats not. I don't know what the problem is

Our GAL has over 15000 contacts and I do have a lot of contact with a large portion of them over the course of a week. I know this is a feature change rather than a bug but I don't really want to import all of them individually. Maybe one on my wish list for the next update.

Thanks for your help on this.

vitaly_repin 2010-01-16 21:11

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelljaso (Post 476199)
So there isn't a button to select search company directory when send a new email??

No. I am trying to advocate this idea (having this level of integration into the mail client) in front of modest developers currently.

Quote:

The reason I say this is in this link

http://maemo.org/community/brainstor...ectory_on_mfe/
This is something I have never seen before. Anyway, GAL is now accessible only using the mechanism I have described before.

Quote:

It says in the link there are 2 tabs when clicking the "To" button - is what is said in the link wrong??
Yes. It is wrong. I think it was the idea of somebody. And I am telling to you how GAL support is implemented in PR1.1: http://wiki.maemo.org/Mail_For_Excha..._.28GAL.29_.3F

Quote:

With Import Mail Exch Contacts
If i search for example my managers name, the company directory is not searched, after about 3-5 seconds the search box disappears and returns me to the Contacts list of the phone.
Could you take the logs and share them either here or through bugzilla?

vitaly_repin 2010-01-16 21:15

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon (Post 473809)
Our exchange server is only accessible via a corporate packet data connection, not a public one, so I need to be able to add this like you can do with S60.

Could you explain a use case a little bit more?

What is this "corporate packet data connection" exactly?

vitaly_repin 2010-01-16 21:20

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strutten (Post 470459)
- is there any way in which I can tell how many unread messages in each mailbox on the main screen (without having to go down into the mailboxes which take 30 secs to load)?

Is it taking 30 secs for PR1.1 as well?

Anyway, this is e-mail client issue. And not too simple to fix as far as I know. Butr e-mail client is open-sourced and somebody can try to prepare a patch for modest.

Quote:

- when a preview notification shows up, I click on it and it takes me to the message. Super. But then I can't delete the message! The garbage box is greyed out. I have to go into the mailbox to delete the message. Is there any way to delete from the preview?
E-Mail client issue. Registered in bugs.maemo.org database.

vitaly_repin 2010-01-16 21:26

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mail2fong (Post 470477)
I got the same error message during the initiate sync on MFE. The error message ""Communication error with exchange server" pop up after finish sync Email. However, it work after I disable the sync on calendar and contact. Now I can received email.
I will try to sync the calendar & contact again... weird :o

Could you share the logs with us?

vitaly_repin 2010-01-16 21:30

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rmf (Post 470482)
Does the PR1.1 update fix the issue with exchange certificates that have an empty CA field?

No. And this is not MfE business to "fix" this. This is platform stuff. And as far as I understand security concerns, this is not something the platform is going to change.

Quote:

i.e. is there an option to ignore it and use the certificate anyway, as with other phones?
No.

Quote:

If not, are there any plans to address this in the future?

As not being a marketing guy, I can not communicate plans for the future. Sorry. All I can say is that this (an ability to skip cerificate checking) is something which (technically) can be fixed in MfE and I had delivered this mesage to the responsible business people.

vitaly_repin 2010-01-16 21:32

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by haja (Post 470501)
Exchange Server 2003
51-1 update installed...

I still get the errors


Secure connection:

Unsecure connection:

Could you share the logs with us? Thank you in advance.

Guber99 2010-01-16 21:54

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
When will provisioning become a possibility with this device? Without it this phone is useless for many professionals

Guber99 2010-01-16 22:25

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
I AM MAD! I still can not sync with my MFE to my Exchange 2007 server, despite the new update. I also can not connect to gmail using the settings on the phone. I want to connect to gmail, but not via Nokia Messaging. Not working. This is a frustrating device from the email point of view! No wonder NOKIA is getting no traction in the USA.

Saturn 2010-01-16 22:42

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Guber99 (Post 477010)
I AM MAD! I still can not sync with my MFE to my Exchange 2007 server, despite the new update. I also can not connect to gmail using the settings on the phone. I want to connect to gmail, but not via Nokia Messaging. Not working. This is a frustrating device from the email point of view! No wonder NOKIA is getting no traction in the USA.

You don't need to use nokia messaging. As soon as the search finishes press the "region", choose your country, then press the "service provider" tab and scroll down till you find gmail.

Continue by setting your user details/info.

Check also here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Email#Desktop_..._e-mail_client

Hope it's useful.

Guber99 2010-01-16 22:57

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
I tried it. N900 does have a service provider option that says gmail. I configure that, but no go. I went to gmail, and of course they only have instructions for S60, not for n900 how to setup IMAP, which I enabled in my gmail.....

N900, a failed email device

Saturn 2010-01-16 23:10

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Guber99 (Post 477072)
I tried it. N900 does have a service provider option that says gmail. I configure that, but no go. I went to gmail, and of course they only have instructions for S60, not for n900 how to setup IMAP, which I enabled in my gmail.....

N900, a failed email device

I assume from your answer that you have done all steps up to 4 as described here:
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...95&topic=12891

You don't really need specific details for your device - choose other client.
check here: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...y?answer=78799

Might be that you don't use your full email address (including @gmail.com) as the account name.

qhorse 2010-01-17 08:53

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IlkkaP (Post 476439)
I tried Company Directory, and it worked for me. The procedure is a bit clunky, as you need to do the following in order to call a contact in the company directory:

1. Select Contacts
2. Select All Contacts menu
3. Select Import contacts
4. Select Import Mail for Exchange contacts
5. Enter name
6. Select Search
7. Select desired name
8. Select Import
9. Search the just imported name from all contacts
10. Select the just imported contact
11. Select the phone number you want to call

There are 11 steps and you have to search the name two times, first in the Company Directory and after you have imported the name, it has to be searched again from the phone contacts. The process could be streamlined, i.e if you import just one contact, after importing you should go directly to that contact's details, which would remove 2 steps.

Thanks for this workaround but that's just what it is, a workaround. It is just not convenient at all to do all these steps if you have to add several (or even one for that matter) of your colleagues is the CC field.

I really hope that Vitaly manages to convince the other of implementing this correclty.

arkanoid 2010-01-17 09:32

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
There is no IMAP IDLE anyways so if you need push you are stuck to Nokia Messaging.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturn (Post 477048)
You don't need to use nokia messaging. As soon as the search finishes press the "region", choose your country, then press the "service provider" tab and scroll down till you find gmail.

Continue by setting your user details/info.

Check also here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Email#Desktop_..._e-mail_client

Hope it's useful.


IlkkaP 2010-01-17 10:17

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qhorse (Post 477664)
Thanks for this workaround but that's just what it is, a workaround. It is just not convenient at all to do all these steps if you have to add several (or even one for that matter) of your colleagues is the CC field.

I agree on what you say. I suppose this was a "quick-fix" and they will integrate it better with user interface in the next maintenance release. It should work something like this:

1. Select Contacts
2. Select Company Address Book tab
3. Enter name and press search
4a. If making a call, select a contact and then select a phone number to call
4b. If composing a message, select a contact to add his e-maill address to the address field and return to the address field

Quote:

I really hope that Vitaly manages to convince the other of implementing this correclty.
I believe Nokia has understood importance of Mail for Exchange support.

Saturn 2010-01-17 11:59

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arkanoid (Post 477705)
There is no IMAP IDLE anyways so if you need push you are stuck to Nokia Messaging.

Yes the reason from the bugzilla comment was: "IMAP IDLE was disabled for power management reasons.". Read and vote here if you want: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3888

In any case, it's off topic since this is again a problem of Modest (or better tiny-mail) and not MfE.

Saturn 2010-01-17 12:13

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Hi vitaly_repin and THavoc,

Could the MfEfolders application be extended to give more advance settings for the syncronisation?

That is, I would like to choose from which folder to get the calendar, contacts, notes, and tasks. Outlook allows to have multiple of those.

The current implementation of MfE points to the default ones and doesn't give the ability to make a choice. If you prefer, I could raise an issue in the bugzilla for this.

Thanks.

SonniBoy 2010-01-17 21:48

Google exchange
 
This subject has probably been discussed before, but I do not seem to find the answer - and if I do, the answers seem to be ambiguous, and therefore not precise enough for me to use.

I am getting an N900 on tuesday, and I depend on Google when it comes to mail, contacts and calendar. I am therefore using the exchange service for this purpose, resently both on iPhone, HD2 and a variety of different phones, where the compatability seem to be superb.

How well does this work on N900?
- Will exchange work with calender, mail and contacts?
- If not, is there any other solutions? (IMAP for mail and exchange for contacts and calendar?

Midget010 2010-01-17 21:50

Re: Google exchange
 
I've currently got my calendar from google syncing with my phone really well. It was pretty easy to do with mail for exchange. Not sure about contacts or mail though, but I think you can do it.

sjgadsby 2010-01-17 21:53

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
The thread "google exchange" with two posts has been merged into this thread.

SonniBoy, please check the first post in this thread.

SonniBoy 2010-01-17 22:01

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 478707)
The thread "google exchange" with two posts has been merged into this thread.

SonniBoy, please check the first post in this thread.

Thanks, did not find this threat.

But it does not answer my question specific, which I really need.

Or should this be understood as there is difficulties, with the compatability with MfE and N900? And if this is the case, I still do not get my question answered, as I can see some users have the calendar working with MfE, but problems with mail?

Rob1n 2010-01-17 22:08

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonniBoy (Post 478726)
Or should this be understood as there is difficulties, with the compatability with MfE and N900? And if this is the case, I still do not get my question answered, as I can see some users have the calendar working with MfE, but problems with mail?

The answer is that using MfE to synchronise with Google is not supported. It may or may not work, and if it does work, it may stop working at any time. There's ongoing work on third-party applications to get the calendar(s) synchronising with Google, but it still seems to be at a relatively early stage.

SonniBoy 2010-01-17 22:15

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 478739)
The answer is that using MfE to synchronise with Google is not supported. It may or may not work, and if it does work, it may stop working at any time. There's ongoing work on third-party applications to get the calendar(s) synchronising with Google, but it still seems to be at a relatively early stage.

Ok, I will then just keep my fingers crossed and hope.

Contacts and calender two-way synchronization is very important to me, and this could be a dealbreaker, if this doesnøt work.

I hope that IMAP works well enough, and i then can find a way to stay synchronized :)

Where can the development of a solution be followed?

Rob1n 2010-01-17 22:23

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonniBoy (Post 478751)
Where can the development of a solution be followed?

Within MfE, this thread - it didn't appear to be high on the priority list though, so it may be worth checking on whether there's a bug raised for it, and voting there (or raising a bug if there isn't one). The more people who show interest in an issue, the more likely it is to get addressed.

The third-part calendar synch app I mentioned has a thread at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40408 - I've not read much of it myself as I don't use Google mail/calendars.

janszoon 2010-01-17 22:42

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Hi there. Have got MFE working well now after 1.1 update. Thnak you for th extra development here to get 2003 included !!!

One point of interest, when I get an email through gmail-imap4 i get a notification (yellow box) that states its an email and has the sender and subject line...

For MFE notifications, I just get a yellow box with the number of emails received since last checked. @5

(Does that make sense?)

No sender/subject details - is that the intention or am I missing something?

jcompagner 2010-01-17 23:18

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Guber99 (Post 477072)
I tried it. N900 does have a service provider option that says gmail. I configure that, but no go. I went to gmail, and of course they only have instructions for S60, not for n900 how to setup IMAP, which I enabled in my gmail.....

N900, a failed email device

come on... configuring imap with gmail is so easy on the N900. Just look at what settings you have to use: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...y?answer=78799

the problem with modest right now is no imap-idle for real push.
thats a real shame yes

Also for people that are trying to use goolge calendar to sync. It should work fine (you could use www.nuevasync.com) but what is very important when using mfe with google is that you shouldnt sync more then once in 6 hours or once or twice a day!

spooley 2010-01-17 23:19

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
With the PR1.1 update, I can sync email, calendar, tasks and contacts with my Exchange Server 2003 - thank you to the team who worked on this!

Should Notes be sync-ed, too? I cannot see any settings regarding notes in Settings | MfE on the N900.

I was previously syncing via Nokia PC Suite, and that transferred Notes ok from my Outlook.

Simon.

THavoc 2010-01-17 23:28

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonniBoy (Post 478751)
Ok, I will then just keep my fingers crossed and hope.
Contacts and calender two-way synchronization is very important to me, and this could be a dealbreaker, if this doesnøt work.
I hope that IMAP works well enough, and i then can find a way to stay synchronized :)

You can use nuevasync.com's free service to sync contacts and calendar.
IMAP is seriously borked atm, eg. it doesn't support IDLE, so no push and also doesn't sync the sent folder (which makes it useless in my book).
Look into Nokia Messaging for e-mail (push works, syncs sent mails) and nuevasync for contacts/calendar.

leek 2010-01-17 23:30

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hge (Post 464326)
Honestly, I can't listen to this anymore that the update is coming soon. Also I'm very long working within Linux environment and I've never heard of "minor update" to prepare the big one.

You've never updated an updater? :)

DaSilva 2010-01-18 08:28

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
If you want to have official Google support for MfE please vote for these bugs (especially the first one):

https://bugs.maemo.org/votes.cgi?act...ug&bug_id=6343
https://bugs.maemo.org/votes.cgi?act...ug&bug_id=5835
https://bugs.maemo.org/votes.cgi?act...ug&bug_id=5632

Thanks!

Rob1n 2010-01-18 09:26

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by janszoon (Post 478796)
For MFE notifications, I just get a yellow box with the number of emails received since last checked. @5

(Does that make sense?)

No sender/subject details - is that the intention or am I missing something?

Mine show the sender/subject details, so sounds like something's not working quite right on yours.

ajko 2010-01-18 19:59

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vitaly_repin (Post 476862)
Could you explain a use case a little bit more?

What is this "corporate packet data connection" exactly?

This look like the same problem that I have. My company Mail for Exchange will only serve requests that came through GPRS-type access networks and not the general Internet. To access these services, you should make a packet data call (even if there is a WiFi connection available, you should route MfE to this network; if you are using a 3G or GPRS connection to the internet, you should also use a different Access Point -- or even drop this 3G/GPRS connection, if you can't support two connections at the same time).

This type of arrangements have probably been made because of security concerns (even if beliefs rather than pure facts), i.e. the transmission path from the point to gateway is strictly contained within standard telecom packet networks.

vitaly_repin 2010-01-18 20:23

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Sad news about GAL support for Exchange 2003: http://wiki.maemo.org/Mail_for_Exchange#PR_1.1_3

We are really sorry for this. This is fixed internally but the corresponding release is not available publicly.


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