Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

I have a weird problem with fmms:

It was working perfectly until last week, when I downloaded a couple of qt4-stuff to install proftpd. Now, fmms has "lost" it's GUI, that means the buttons are not any more visible but only the text on them.

Alongside this, fmms has stopped receiving mms (I really could live without a fancy GUI). Removing all recently installed packages and reinstalling fmms 1.3.4 didn't help. Other programs don't show this behavior.

Has someone ever seen this? Is there a list of the exact versions of the dependencies, which might collide with the versions I have installed (although I don't see any, I didn't change python - however, which >=version is required for python-all?).


If not, I'll survive without mms...

Greetings

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Hi. I just received MMS and the only content is We tried sending GPS coordinates from Nokia 5230 to my N900 with 5230's stock software that shows coordinates (I'm not sure what its' name is but it's separate from Maps). Was it fMMS, 5230 or mobile operator problem?

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@Fure
reboot a few time can help....
also change the setup to havoc to fixed your problem...

as for saving to your pc...using winscp go to....

you can copy all received mms to pc in that folder....


@Ipzstf
your problem is cause by enhanced busybox shell....dowloading/upgrading the latest version will fixed your button problem...

@int_ua
GPS got nothing to do with mms....it your mobile operator problem....
most mobile operator blocked some contents for receiving to your device....

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

More than likely your provider didn't recognize the mime type and dropped it while relaying it. From my experience with it, if fMMS doesn't recognize the mime/media type, it presents it as a button for raw download/save. That may have changed in an update along the way, but with that text, I'd bet it was the operator dropping it. Even if you got it in fMMS, it probably would show up as a raw attachment. (Though you could edit fMMS to recognize the type and parse/launch it to another app, since it's open-source. :) )

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@pusak gaoq

Reboot phone or the app? I changed the setup to havoc but the problem isn't solved.

I have never used WinSCP, can you help me? Thanks :)

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

reboot the phone....if havoc didn't help the reset the fmms setting....

as for WinSCP use power search on this forum to find tutorial how to install & use WinSCP...

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

I can't receive MMS directly on the N900. I always get an sms from O2 Germany I have to go to the web to see my mms.
I want my mms direcly on the n900. What must/can I do.

Sending works without problems.

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While this thread is still active, does anyone know of an easy way to delete more than one/all mms messages at once? It's a little tedious going through each one, longpressing, hitting delete, and then hitting yes.

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I was about to post - copy the contents of /home/user/.fmms to the desired destination in the MyDocs folder, using FileBox or suchlike but the process fails... mmm...

Anyway, if we can fix the copying - the MyDocs folder is the top folder as seen by windows file explorer (aka Nokia N900 with the little pic of the N900 as its icon).

Most items do copy, it's just some of the received items. Not quite sure what's going on. There may be clues in this thread or it might be that I need to run fsck on my device.

What happens when you use the correct German mms configuration ?

Go to /home/user/.fmms and delete stuff using a proper file explorer

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@demolition

of course I'm using the correct settings...

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How about your provider. The N900 doesn't have mms natively so some networks have it turned off until you call them to correct this.

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

that weird considering that i can copy all my mms (even copying the fMMS folder itself) to my SD card or to my pc....

regarding fsck on your device....the best way is to use GParted live CD + Backupmenu....

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The problem with Copying / Backing up is in the filenames. UTF8 names with special characters at least for me. cp complains: cannot create 'filenamewith?=intheend'

Cannot copy the files to a filesystem that doesn't support those markers in file names. :) eg MyDocs. Maybe make a tar of the whole folder would work. Then just copy it out.

Something like this should work: "$ tar -cvzf /home/user/MyDocs/backups/fmmsback.tar /home/user/.fmms"


I have like 7 MMS's that cannot be copied because of names that have * mark or = marker etc. The rest copied fine.

Of course it would be great if the CSSU team had some time to hack the backup software to include more stuff. But I know they are allready working hard.

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I have a message in fmms can not I download from the operator, and how I can no longer download it'm not getting the fmms delete it, how do I manually delete this message?
Thank´s...:eek:

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Look at the post before yours and put one and one together? -> There's an '.fmms' folder in your '/home/user'; just delete the relevant MMS - they are stored as individual files there.

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press and hold on the message title and a "Delete" option will appear

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Sorry if it was mentioned before - I tried extensive thread-search without any related results, and I'm not feeling like going through 91 pages...

Whenever I use ''havoc'' mode, the MMS'es are send *slowly*. Monitoring speed through QNetMan, I see speed like 5-10 KB/s. When - at exactly same conditions - I use "rude" mode, speed are great (i.e. as it should be given network coverage etc).

Anyone else experiencing this? If yes, any known workarounds?

Of course, I can live with that - when I send something bigger than plain text (i.e. photos) I just switch mode, send, then switch it back - but, it could be definitely more hassle-free, if possible ;)

/Estel

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is your device in 3G when you use "havoc" mode?
i use fMMS often (sending/receiving) MMS...what i learn from this program is when you try to send (havoc mode) switch to 3G for faster sending then switch back to 2G for battery saving....for receiving MMS no need to switch to 3G, 2G mode can download MMS fast too....

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Of course I'm using 3G for sending MMS'es. BTW, I can't agree, that it's fast to receive MMS'es on 2.5G - it works, but can't be fast, due to bandwidth limitations (it can't be as fast as with 3G, physically). Of course, "fast" is relative - if data content is small sized, it will go "fast" via 2.5G.

Yet, problem I've described is independent of 2G/3G settings. Speed "achievable" during havoc, are comparable rather to plain GPRS.

/Estel

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Hi to all, since december I can't receive MMS from people (I only receive the spot's MMS from vodafone italy...)

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It seems that, if u install CSSU update, fmms does'nt receive messagges... is this right? it would be done something?

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I've gotten several MMS from others since the update, including two today. I'm betting it's not CSSU causing it directly. It could be that your service vendor has put something in place to detect your IMEI and is now not sending you MMS because the phone officially (as launched) didn't support it. There were several operators that had to be educated to fix this when fMMS first came out.

If you can send MMS, but not receive them, I'd suspect the operator more than anything on the device.

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

There was definitely something send to me yesterday, but I get no notifications at all with KP50, and i'm on T-Mobile DE. Not while on 2G and not while registered with 3G service. But it seems i can send...

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

You should be able to send/receive MMS even on 2G (via so-called 2.5G).

Anyway, I've tested it by sending MMS to myself (sending also via fMMS), and everything was received fine (after few minutes).

I'm using kp50 and latest CSSU-Testing.

/Estel

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at least its work, 3times attempt of try and its there, :D

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It's sounding more and more like T-Mobil DE and T-Mobil IT have both shifted to something new. I'm curious (being a T-Mobil US user), if you log into your account does it now indicate the device you're using as N900? Mine still is showing "unknown device" and no icon. If yours is now showing N900 it may be that T-Mobil in your area has finally updated it's database to include IMEI values for the N900.

I had this issue with AT&T US shortly after fMMS was setup and working. They updated their computers to know N900s and stopped sending MMS to them since technically the N900 doesn't support MMS. In AT&T's case, it would send a standard SMS instructing you on how to log into your AT&T online account and see/read your MMS online. After several calls, over a week, I got them to set the N900 up as a "dual mode" device. That means it would assume you had no MMS until you sent one. (I told them MMS support was released in a "firmware upgrade"...)

It may be you need to now do the same with your T-Mobil provider. I'm hopeful that T-Mobil USA is slow to update their info, or don't bother updating "old" Nokia devices in their database... That way I don't have to deal with this a second time. ;)

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I'm user of T-Mobile PL (former, Era), and everything works fine. BTW, this thing with IMEI lookup FCKN'in reminds me of disabling or enabling web services, due to user agent string... :( I hope that everyone getting so bright ideas will roast slowly on IT hell.

/Estel

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

To some degree, yes. In the case of AT&T they were actually trying to be nice. Setting up a system to notify people with devices the didn't have MMS a way to get notified and see the messages, vs just having them go off into the ether. Just turning them off with no way to view them online though is just being mean.

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hi, i wonder if it would be possible to add function tol delete all mms messeges at once...or to choose which to delete as in sms app... it is very frustrating to delete 1 by 1 =)

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Probably only if You implement it Yourself (code is Open), as original maintainer isn't here anymore.

/Estel

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As I recall, all the fMMS data lives in /home/user/.fmms. If you nuke that folder (may require you also uninstall and re-install fMMS) then all your MMS go away in one swoop. :)

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still having problems here (italy with voda) still receiving advertisement messagges from voda but not pop-up messages when I receive a new message from my friends and if I chck fmsm window and see the fmms arriving when I try to download it... it gives me error...

I',ve alo tried to send mms to myself... it sends but when I try to download it appears the same error "unable to download"...

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sorry but... no news?

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Same behaviour here with KP50 (unrelated, as I tested with stock also) and almost eveything from devel ;)
I do not get the notification. I have to open fMMS manually. And on tapping on the message the connection opens and it tries to download, but fails ("Vorgang fehlgeschlagen").
I am on Vodafone, Germany.
And btw I am able to send MMS. So I agree to woody, that this is probably something with network!??


Anybody out there that knows whats going on?
I have checked log file and (some) code, but to no avail.
I think I will follow woodys advice and call -educated knowing member of- hotline next week (I am loving it ;)), if nobody can point me to the source of this problem.


Do you have any more info, even it is different network, but same country?

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

It is very likely they updated their IMEI database to include the ranges for the N900. Since the N900 didn't have MMS support out of the box, it probably has been shifted to off for any device with that MMS range. Depending on the vendor, they may be able to switch an individual customer, but most have to change the settings for the whole range (eg all IMEI for all N900).

The default software for N900, if it gets an MMS with no fMMS installed, will silently ignore MMS message.

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Thanks woody,

but that is what I am afraid of: the need to get someone on the hotline to talk about that technical stuff

OK, it is on my todo list.
And I will report back ....

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

but why I receive advertising MMS from vodafone? and they donwload (push mms) and when some one send me and mms failed?

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Whoops Woody - it is not as simple as that.
The advertising is delivered by one subsystem here, that seems to have its own quipment register. This is a separate and maintained by those collecting the revenue from the advertising.
The operator IMEI is individual for every handset, or better, at least is should be. Some consultants seems to believe they can muck around here and sets the bits as Christmas candles. Just as with the candles, if someone sneeze they go off. The capability to send and receive MMS is not a core GSM functionality.It is not in the IMEI register which has a well defined operator functionality. There are a number of companies that deliver systems that take any IMEI and identifies settings and capability, including support of MMS - and which variants that are supported. Well what is more Italian than using one system for advertising and another for customer support? Many of these systems will recognise when you send an MMS that the N900 for some reason support it. Anyone with problems here: Call their operator and complain, explain that you have fMMS installed, and most systems will allow the representative to set it. But do not expect that this will work in another country! With one bit it is very difficult to state "Maybe".

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The initial question was why MMS worked and now it does not, and they don't even get notices any more. The answer, almost always, is that the provider updated their database and disabled MMS on all N900. So yes, it is in fact as simple as that.

That's quite possible, but again, this is not about some getting through, etc. This is about lack of getting MMS where you once did before.

On a side note: Personally, I wouldn't stay with an operator that's allowing advertisers raw access to their internal network. That's just asking for trouble.

Yes, but the IMEI is broken up by model and vendor as well. Most larger companies (like Nokia) order a specific range and keep a database that they offer to operators that indicates what the model and features each device supports, and what their IMEI TAC or SN range is.

You misunderstand.

When Nokia sends someone a database of which IMEI ranges are for what models, that same database also usually contains data about what each model has for a feature set. Can it do IMS? Does it have Wifi? What frequencies can it use? What compression protocols does it know? It also commonly lists if the model supports basic features, like e-mail, instant messaging, voice call notification messages, and MMS.

Before your provider was saying you had an "unknown device", and probably allows MMS on unknown devices, assuming it supports it. Now they updated their database, and it's saying you have an N900, which doesn't support MMS (out of the box), so they're not sending them along any more.

And yes, other networks may do things differently, so if you roam to another network, they may in fact change if MMS can get to you, based on if they have the N900 listed in their database or not.

The best thing to do is ask the carrier to change the setting for your number. Some carriers can toggle that per user. Smart providers have the system enable it automatically if you send a MMS from the device.

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One silly question... typical IT reply, but it wasn't asked:

Have you uninstalled/reinstalled fMMS? Maybe something else you did clobbered the settings in some way? Can't hurt to try...

Also, if you're getting MMS notices (pushes) but can't download, that sounds more like a settings issue. It could be your provider changed the name/IP of the MMS gateway. Most devices with full MMS support can get those changes via a push to the device (often via a sim push/update). The N900 lacks both native MMS support and sim tools. Check their web site and make sure your MMS gateway settings are correct still. (And if they're not please update the wiki and reply here once you've fixed it. :) )

Edit:
One other thought, If you have a separate advertiser (like knuthf mentioned) it may be the MMS settings for that service are different than the one for your main provider. That would suck, but would explain if you can get some MMS but not all of them.