Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 

I totally understand. When I had to find a N900 replacement, I'd even buy the N900 again if I could find/afford it. I now have a £100 Blade with Gingerbread, and so far I haven't judged it (The Blade) to be significantly better on ANY point, except price where it rocks. Oh, wait, it's also slimmer.

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OK I've been watching this thread and its time to jump in the pool.

The n900 is my first phone, I was more interested in the inet tablet portion of it) but I fell in love with the over all AWESOMENESS!! Anyway, what is the N9/N950 RM680 going to do that my N900 already doesn't? I won't rehash the hardware debate, and I understand it has a better camera, but here is my point. After 2 years I have my 900 running the apps I want, styled the way I want, updated the way I want. Why go down the same road with a new phone that will "probably" have the same "type" of development cycle.

I know you can't be specific, but I was looking for more its a little newer, a little faster, has a capacitive screen instead of resistive (ouch i love my stylus), and it's silver. Is this the difference between my n900 and this new phone?

Or will you say here are the number of things the N9 can do that the 900 can't?? ...(cleverly worded to dig for info..:rolleyes:)

Here is one anyone can answer: Will the new phone run the current Maemo 5 / N900 apps?

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anyone knows bout cpu? prolly not.
anyway, no ir = no remote, that would be one + for the N900

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I am guessing:
+ NFC
+ better navigation.
+ And apparently an icon indicated some better/more official support for some TV-related stuff. Don't know if it's web TV or TV-out or screen saver that has a TV-like icon for no apparent reason.

Edit:
really too early to tell, though.


The nice thing about the N900 is that it can do much more than a sandboxed phone. The difference in that lays in the fact that you will be able to compile new N900 applications from existing Linux software for years to come.

Nomatter what the next gen phone is, you can't take that away from the N900. You did your research well. The N900 is an irreplaceable product at this time, and the N9 seems to be an overlapping product more than a worthy successor.

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Great... No Xenon flash :(

Back to the crappy Dual LED rubbish that just ends up leaving a load of white noise on one side of the photo :(

Looks good otherwise, hopefully itll come in black and other colours :)

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the N9 seems like a try too hard to being and iphone and android phone and not exactly what am looking for. its trying to appeal to the masses

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Well... Step 5 was always supposed to be mass market. I think.

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So you decide to not buy it cause Elop is biggest Idiot at Nokia? Personally I hope everyone buys it and it success. Then Elop gets kicked and Nokia says: "Well WP7 is a burning platform so we decided to go Meego instead" :D

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I know this has been answered better before, but I don't know where, my search button is orange :p

Qt based N900 applications: for sure. Ported Linux applications should mostly be recompilable, I would think. Non-open applications like Nokia applications, Flash, Skype: probably not unless through some hack or virtualization.

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The N900 can do almost anything but here are a few things it has problems with:
- For some reason the N900 can't accomplish the feat of having a larger screen than that of the N900.
- Most N900's seem to be unable to have more ram then the N900.
- My N900, for some reason, have not been able to have have a built in 4 row keyboard.
- N900's in general can't do the special "I have hdmi out" dance.
- The N900 really sucks at not having an fmtx. (The Greek ones tried, but failed)

Sersiously though, I look at this like upgrading a pc hardware and installing a new release of the OS. I expect similar features, but stuff works better and faster :)

[Disclaimer: Most of the stuff listed may or may not be featured in the N9/50]

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I am as excited as everybody here about this unexpected surprise.
But what I want is not fancy dual core CPU or more storage - N900 is OK in that respect. Improved battery life is what I will be happy to find.
The aluminium body is also a nice upgrade from N900.
Anyway - I hope what will see will live to our expectations.

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We have already heard this zillions times by many people here. time now to stop this flood of same discussions over and over again!?

What do you and others win of saying the same over and over again?!

we already knows this! Who the **** cares anyway!? Personally I buy it cause the Linux community not because some ****ing corporation decisions! If you dont want it well get something else for **** sake!!!

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I wouldn't call Elop an idiot, as I believe he's quite happy with how his agenda is going forth. I think he may have managed pretty much what he planned. I just don't like his plan and I don't think Nokia stock holders should, either. He ruined Macromedia too, but I don't think that was an accident either.

However, the reasons I wouldn't buy the MeeGo phone is:
- too many N900 advantages seems to disappear,
- Elop, idiot or not, lit fire on the Symbian platform, which is clearly MeeGo's sister platform, and that (Qt) was one of the biggest advantages to N9 over stock N900,
- Elop poured gasoline over the Maemo/MeeGo Harmattan platform and sold the rescue boats to Microsoft.

It's not about the person Elop, it's about the actions that the person Elop already have done and probably will keep doing for at least two more years.

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I haven't been saying the same over and over again. I do not win anything, I consider any further involvement I put in this platform a personal loss (of time). I am however interested, I am observing and and I am commenting. If you've heard the same observations before from more people than me, it's because they're so god damned obvious that people just can't help themselves from pointing them out.

So you should blame Nokia if you get tired about hearing about flaws or unpopular decisions, because what I am observing is their doings.

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So your saying the upgrading the n900 to the N9 is like upgrading from Windows XP to Windows Vista?....(See what I did there...:D)

Update: I would have said PS2 to PS3, but that would make me seem like a fanboy..(I think he just did iit again..:rolleyes:)

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I think the differences are too big to say XP to Vista. Maybe 95 to NT4?

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Haha, and you didn't understand my sense of humor and what "was" mean \o/
Looking after my post, what I meant was that it was almost the last official words of the heads of Nokia, nothing at the last meego conference, nothing since the elopisation, so much speculation everywhere, maybe this maybe that, etc ... (except what kind people who were the device on hand reveal here)
and now it seems that the next "real & official information" will come at least in a few days at this next conference !
Then we are near to say "rumor are finish" and "We got it !" :D

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If you look at the video. The phone is almost the same as at these old pictures.

http://dailymobile.se/2010/08/19/pic...tures-gallery/

I think it the same phone :D at least the cover.

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Well I haven't used vista so I don't know, but I was thinking more like Slackware 12 to Mint Katya (meaning less hacking more shine comparing to the older one. I assume you can hack just as much if you wish though.)

EDIT: more sense

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Ugh.

I installed Mint... 10 I think?, then Mint Debian Edition.
But I did it too soon, an early release, so the distro upgrade path still pointed to Mint 10 and when I ran update I was back in Mint 10 all of a sudden :o

So, I hope the upgrade is not like that.

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If they had been developing a time machine for quite a long time one could assume that they would eventually succeed. As such a machine can infinitely traverse the quantum thusly it exists in all times past present and future simultaneously ergo the icons were used in the video before they were designed.

Capice?

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Hehe, interesting. I use Mint 10. It's quite nice. I'd go for the debian thing but I'm to busy/lazy to bother.

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There was a reason to upgrade, some reason why I wanted in the rolling distro, but I no longer remember what it was. :B Maybe it was because I too am lazy, and didn't want to keep installing Mint 10, 11 etc, when I use it so rarely.

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No the upgrade is like upgrading from chair to sofa
it is much more comfortable doing power user hacky stuff with more horsepower even though it is feasible on device 600mhz as its stock clock
P.S the thought of a 1.5ghz dualcore oc'ed to 2ghz makes me jump up and down (it would also probably double up as a mini oven/microwave(useful for borrowing a friend battery draing it 5min then returning it dead kind of pranks ))

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What kind of chair? I need a good chair more than I need a good sofa, but if they're different enough I could use both.

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an electric chair with loads of volts

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 

N900 from day 1 wasn't super fast. It was smooth with nothing installed but after a while, animations became visibly choppy and even loading up Settings took a few seconds. I felt the need to tweak & overclock within few weeks of getting the N900. My N900 is visibly quicker compared to a stock N900. (I run mine at 1.1GHz) I've never had stability issues nor any battery life issues.

Also, the fact that N900 drops frames even while recording video, taking a long time installing/uninstalling apps is pretty bad. The new SGS2 takes around 1-3 seconds literally to install or uninstall any apps. But yeah, I sold my SGS2 and still kept the N900 due to its hw keyboard, multitasking and MicroB. N900 rocks.

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Guys, in this pic, in gimp, the V of TV and Video is 6 px wide, and approx "9" wide in Gimp (don't know what the unity is, doesn't matter). The screen is approx "1201" wide in Gimp, which means that the 6px wide V holds... 133 time!!!

That makes around 800px WIDE :o

Given the error margin, I'd say 720 px and Zehjotkah was incredibly on topic!!

Yeah!

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Are you sure? Did you discounted the black bezel? I'm betting on 854x480, since it's no different from my 4 icon wide grid in my SGS (800x480).

There's no way a V there will be just 6px wide and still well defined like that (?)

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from icon to icon I still have 630 px.

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@erendorn your post is utterly useless (no offence) beacause i could take a pic of an n900 screen with .3mp camera or 39 mp camera so results would very

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720px wide? awesome, but thats too good to belive...

edit:
given that it is 16:9 it would have 1024*720... HDready ;)

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I'm assuming he zoomed in the hell of it and say figured out the real px of the V letter :p

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Andoid doesn't install apps, it just downloads a file and puts it in a folder along with the other executables. No repositories, no dependencies, nothing. That's why it takes 3 seconds.
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Lets see how many comment we get in this thread before Nokia actually Announce the damn device(s)

My guess is 1677 comments

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No offense, but I count px from the aliasing of the letters... nothing to do with the definition of the picture.

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I want my 100th post here today ;) now 3 missing and 1 hour left :)

my guess: 2305 :D

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It maybe wrong, but he has the right methodology. You see he divided the photo resolution with the resolution he assumes letter v has.

He said that V is probably 6px wide on the device but 9px in the photo. Then counting how many times V fits in the screen and multiplying it with 6 he makes a pretty viable estimate for the resolution
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Assuming the bezel takes one third of the space between the alu and the icons, it makes something like 721 pixels.

Now anything can happen between this teaser and the device you may have in your hands, but the phone featured in the teaser is definitely 720*1080...