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rob_kouw 2015-09-22 18:59

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
I received the invite at 19 November 2014 at 10:13. I ordered at 11:05 but the Early Bird perk of 189 USD was gone already. I think those are the ones handled first now.
Me:
Order number: "Early Sailor", exact number unknown
Confirmation: 19 Nov 2014 11:05

mrsellout 2015-09-22 19:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MINKIN2 (Post 1483362)
I'm rather excited for you early birds, looking forward to seeing your unboxing vids and and first impressions. I still have some time to wait yet for my invite (I was away from home for the announcement).



Can I suggest adding your tablet contribution dates too? This might be helpful for us and those late contributors to gage how many are shipped/sold and where they are in the queue. ie...

Pro-order number:1234/waiting for invite
Contribution date: 31/12/2014

Me:
Order number: waiting
Cont' Date: 22/11/2014

I'd suggest a location too for those with invites, I presume some people with low numbers could be bypassed* in order to test out the process for every locality.


*Obviously they could still ship in order of funding.

vistaus 2015-09-22 19:15

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rob_kouw (Post 1483377)
I received the invite at 19 November 2014 at 10:13. I ordered at 11:05 but the Early Bird perk of 189 USD was gone already. I think those are the ones handled first now.
Me:
Order number: "Early Sailor", exact number unknown
Confirmation: 19 Nov 2014 11:05

I'm an Early Bird but my order has not been handled yet, so no, they aren't handled first.

juiceme 2015-09-23 04:38

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vistaus (Post 1483380)
I'm an Early Bird but my order has not been handled yet, so no, they aren't handled first.

Same thing here, I was not in the first handful but if I recall correctly something on the order of #30...#40 or so.
And no email coming this way yet... :(

cvp 2015-09-23 06:44

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
same for me... buy it for 189 + 20 shipping (209) (19.11.15 - 10:27am) .... and got no invite :(

Jozz 2015-09-23 07:28

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
I ordered mine on March 29th 2015. No order number as far as I see.
Estimated delivery June 2015. I think they got the year wrong.:rolleyes:

tommo 2015-09-23 07:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1483406)
Same thing here, I was not in the first handful but if I recall correctly something on the order of #30...#40 or so.
And no email coming this way yet... :(

I thought I ordered quite early, but turns out to be 9th December so I'm about 20 days behind you guys :D plus 10 working days for packing, plus 10 days for delivery... yesterdays excitement disappeared quite quickly! :p

ggabriel 2015-09-23 08:56

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
They did communicate "don't worry if you don't get the email just yet".......

hemiwi 2015-09-23 10:24

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eekkelund (Post 1483336)
I go invitation too and paid VAT for 2 tablets and Lastu case just now!
So excited wooo...:)
Apparently #194 though I remember I was in first 50 who ordered in IGG.

Same here, got #205....But since i was travelling and on a plane back to Finland maybe got bumped back? Who knows....But considering Finland has 5 business days a week 10bd to pack and 5-7 bd to deliver i guess we anyway have to wait 2-3 weeks

peter-berlin 2015-09-23 10:47

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
try this:
The link in your email to the Pre-order shop is this: shop.jolla.com/igg_preorder_en

it works for me, paid the tax - now we will see what happens next... :)

tortoisedoc 2015-09-23 11:33

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hemiwi (Post 1483423)
Same here, got #205....But since i was travelling and on a plane back to Finland maybe got bumped back? Who knows....But considering Finland has 5 business days a week 10bd to pack and 5-7 bd to deliver i guess we anyway have to wait 2-3 weeks

I'd say its shipping from HK?

ggabriel 2015-09-23 11:40

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peter-berlin (Post 1483425)
try this:
The link in your email to the Pre-order shop is this: shop.jolla.com/igg_preorder_en

it works for me, paid the tax - now we will see what happens next... :)

Didn't work for me... cart gets emptied and I get given no option to pay. Maybe you were meant to receive the email but you didn't?

Copernicus 2015-09-23 11:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by peter-berlin (Post 1483425)
try this:
The link in your email to the Pre-order shop is this:

Man, guys, don't jump the line. The more confused and messy the process gets, the longer it will take for Jolla to figure things out and get everything moving... :(

peter-berlin 2015-09-23 11:51

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1483427)
Didn't work for me... cart gets emptied and I get given no option to pay. Maybe you were meant to receive the email but you didn't?

I ordered my tablet on IGG at 19.11.14 (early bird), but not receive an invitation. so I tried the link and it works for me (# 248)

ggabriel 2015-09-23 11:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by peter-berlin (Post 1483429)
I ordered my tablet on IGG at 19.11.14 (early bird), but not receive an invitation. so I tried the link and it works for me (# 248)

Similar date for me, early bird too, no email just yet but couldn't pay with that link. So, 2 possibilities:
1. They fixed the store between you and me
2. You didn't get the email - maybe you use gmail? ;-)

pagis 2015-09-23 12:12

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I've ordered my tablet on 19/11/14, I had just missed the first perk so I was in the early second one. On 02/02/15 I did pay for an upgrade and postage, and now my order number is 75xx!

juiceme 2015-09-23 12:40

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Actually this is kind of nice, as now I can participate in the expectation/hope/despair cycle as I could not before... :p

Since I already had gotten my device on Jolla Gala I just watched in awe as people tore their hair out when the devices were shipped in non-preorder-order (as far as I understood it)

Now I can partake in the carnival!!

(and BTW this is not sarcasm, I do fully enjoy it! :))

Copernicus 2015-09-23 12:42

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I hope everyone who wanted a tablet has ordered one. :) New tweet:

Quote:

Jolla ‏@JollaHQ 11m11 minutes ago
#Jolla Tablet limited pre-order batch is now sold out. Congrats to all who secured theirs! Follow https://blog.jolla.com for future updates

ggabriel 2015-09-23 12:48

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
I wonder how many they're making (igg + preorder - china + contingency).

minimos 2015-09-23 12:54

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tortoisedoc (Post 1483426)
I'd say its shipping from HK?

Correct. As they also mention about it in their FAQ (https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/a...nvitations-FAQ)

Quote:

2 Shipping and delivery of my Tablet
-
Q5: Why are you shipping from Hong Kong? why not Finland or Europe?

A5: The original Indiegogo campaign was sponsored by our Asian headquarters. As such, we felt it necessary to keep operations as close to that office as possible.

robthebold 2015-09-23 14:35

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Question for anyone who's already paid:

What value is Jolla slapping on the tablet? I would guess it wouldn't be just the contribution amount that one made, since that would be different valuations for the same hardware based on when it was ordered, but never assume, right?

Because it would be super-nice if the price was $199.99 US or less.

(Also, seriously, how did you guys figure out your order numbers? I am confuse, as the kids say these days.)

mscion 2015-09-23 15:05

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
I ordered November 19 but just missed the very first cut. Paid $204. Was that the same price for those that made the first cut. Also, at a later date upgraded to 64GB and ordered Lastu case. Were there other accessories? Thanks!

peter-berlin 2015-09-23 15:06

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robthebold (Post 1483441)
Question for anyone who's already paid:

What value is Jolla slapping on the tablet? I would guess it wouldn't be just the contribution amount that one made, since that would be different valuations for the same hardware based on when it was ordered, but never assume, right?

Because it would be super-nice if the price was $199.99 US or less.

(Also, seriously, how did you guys figure out your order numbers? I am confuse, as the kids say these days.)

pre-order tablet with 64 gb -> 214,00 $
pre-order lastcase -> 49,00 $
------------------------------------------
total 1 -> 263,00 $

tax / germany -> 49,97 $
------------------------------------------
grand total: 312,97 $
========================

edit: I get the order-number by checking my account: my orders

eekkelund 2015-09-23 16:14

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by tortoisedoc (Post 1483376)
Hmm how do you know the queue nr?
At least in the Indiegogo mail it was not stated?

Sorry, it is the order number what is visible either in shop.jolla.com - My Orders or in pdf receipt which you can save after payment. The last 3 numbers are 194 with me:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by robthebold (Post 1483441)
Question for anyone who's already paid:

What value is Jolla slapping on the tablet? I would guess it wouldn't be just the contribution amount that one made, since that would be different valuations for the same hardware based on when it was ordered, but never assume, right?

Because it would be super-nice if the price was $199.99 US or less.

(Also, seriously, how did you guys figure out your order numbers? I am confuse, as the kids say these days.)

Finland TAX 24%

vistaus 2015-09-23 18:13

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
24 hours later and still no e-mail (like I said: I'm an Early Bird)...

Dave999 2015-09-23 18:18

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Anyone bought double trouble. (Tablet/phone-bundle). What is the total tablet amount in that deal?

Edit: combo-perk $488
Jolla store €281.45 for phone, approximately $315.
488-315 = tablet

KylliOrvokki 2015-09-23 20:11

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
My guess is that order completion email is send to first 200 - 300 early sailors.

So that means that 3700 - 3800 early sailors did not yet receive email.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mxhnseYUC...s-update-2.png


I started my order procedure maybe 5-10 minutes after announcement which I watched live from interwebs. There were maybe 10 - 15 buyers so far and when I finished my order there were maybe 100 - 200 buyers then.



Regarding the order number.

I have not seen any number anywhere regarding original order 19.11.2014 - Indiegogo site, Jolla Account or in the emails. My personal best guess was that I maybe ordered around 100 - 150 first buyers.

After getting the order completion email -> I paid the taxes and then got some number which now is # 152.
Is this the "original" contribution number or just number for completing the order at Jolla Shop -> I don't know.


Edit:
Also my guess is that Jolla now will test their order / packing / shipping process with these 200 - 300 first.
After fine tuning the whole process - I would assume that they will send order completions emails to all the rest or how many tablets they have ready at that point.

minimos 2015-09-24 04:57

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KylliOrvokki (Post 1483467)
Also my guess is that Jolla now will test their order / packing / shipping process with these 200 - 300 first.

That also what e.g. Adafruit (a company that produces a lot of electronic hardware for makers and hobbyists)
is typically doing when starting a new production, as e.g. their 'Made in USA' Arduino boards:
- first a few prototypes for testers
- then ship a small batch of few hundreds to verify that everything in manufacturing, packaging, etc. is A-OK
- and only then scale up to the full production
(and note that there is not much to re-invent in a Arduino board!)

peter-berlin 2015-09-24 06:35

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
oh, no... I just received this email from jolla:

Jolla (Jolla Service and Support)
Hello!
We noticed you have turned your Indiegogo contribution into an order in our Jolla Tablet Pre-Order Online shop.
We did not yet intend to send you an invite, and as we wish to respect the order of contributions we won't be shipping your Tablet and accessories to you just yet. You will receive your items once other people who contributed before you have received their items.
No action is required by you at this time. This is just to inform you that your items will be shipped out at a later than you may have anticipated.
Thank you once again for completing your order.
Have a great day!
Sincerely,
Jolla Customer Care


:mad: :mad: :mad:

Fellfrosch 2015-09-24 07:35

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Cheating is more trouble than it's worth. Look at VW. :p

ggabriel 2015-09-24 08:22

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peter-berlin (Post 1483487)
oh, no... I just received this email from jolla:

Yeah, but you don't have to worry about paying any more ;)

ste-phan 2015-09-24 11:14

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fellfrosch (Post 1483490)
Cheating is more trouble than it's worth. Look at VW. :p

Not saying they don't get what they deserve, and I can miss those diesels like plague,.. but ... let's safely assume every single energy giant / airplane - car -manufacturer / tech giant cheats on their customers and the population on large scale.
The matter of them being caught and held responsible boils down to strong political will to do so. (EPA in US is quite known for turning blind eyes until.. the title of this article summarizes it well http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/08...-they-know-it/ )

Message to VW:

After 2013 corp leaders using iOS / MS / Android for communication should keep in mind that if there was at some point big brother will always have a stick behind the door to beat the dog when needed.

So as a symbolic start to change all that, Sailfish secure for all VW staff handsets from now on :cool:

Copernicus 2015-09-24 13:54

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
With the general release of Sailfish 1.1.9, Jolla has finally released an SDK with official support for the tablet!

https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-o...release-notes/

Tablet apps are now being accepted in the Harbour as well. Along with this, some more help files have been updated to support the tablet, such as Volume, Ringtone, and Ambiance Control and Gestures and Views.

https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-gb/a...fingers-01.jpg

vistaus 2015-09-24 19:26

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fellfrosch (Post 1483490)
Cheating is more trouble than it's worth. Look at VW. :p

Yeah, but I still don't have received the email yet and I was in the first 500 Early Birds so clearly Jolla's email about sending in order of contributions is not entirely true.

Copernicus 2015-09-24 19:30

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vistaus (Post 1483543)
Yeah, but I still don't have received the email yet and I was in the first 500 Early Birds so clearly Jolla's email about sending in order of contributions is not entirely true.

My guess is that their "small group" of early contributors is much less than 500. Maybe less than 100. I would think they are testing end-to-end fulfillment right now, rather than how much volume they can manage at once...

mosen 2015-09-24 20:38

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
there where also much less then 300 contributors when i rushed to the campaign while the stageshow was still rolling.
Did not recieve invite so i suspect the group to be around 100-200 people!

mikecomputing 2015-09-24 21:22

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peter-berlin (Post 1483487)
oh, no... I just received this email from jolla:

Jolla (Jolla Service and Support)
Hello!
We noticed you have turned your Indiegogo contribution into an order in our Jolla Tablet Pre-Order Online shop.
We did not yet intend to send you an invite, and as we wish to respect the order of contributions we won't be shipping your Tablet and accessories to you just yet. You will receive your items once other people who contributed before you have received their items.
No action is required by you at this time. This is just to inform you that your items will be shipped out at a later than you may have anticipated.
Thank you once again for completing your order.
Have a great day!
Sincerely,
Jolla Customer Care


:mad: :mad: :mad:

ROTFL :D I told ya guys... http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=876

have patience....

mikelima 2015-09-25 07:41

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1483556)
there where also much less then 300 contributors when i rushed to the campaign while the stageshow was still rolling.
Did not recieve invite so i suspect the group to be around 100-200 people!

Well, if sharing the pain helps, I was too in the early contributors - I got the 189 euro dollars early bird price - and I did not receive the invite either. Maybe they limited shipping to Finland/Scandinavia? I don't know. Anyway, we will have to keep waiting...

Dave999 2015-09-25 10:05

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
First preview unboxing? Unfortunately Russian.
http://youtu.be/2weLUBOl9xw

Boxeri 2015-09-25 10:21

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NokiaN9KickYourAss (Post 1483599)
First preview unboxing? Unfortunately Russian.
http://youtu.be/2weLUBOl9xw

Giving you thumbs up for your nick/username and from spotting this girl. I mean Jolla tablet video :D


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