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daperl 2013-11-24 22:56
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 
Don't confuse "idiot proof" with "have your cake and eat it too." The Lumia 800 and the n9 look almost indistinguishable, but one's a phone and the other is a computer with phone capabilities, respectively.

juiceme 2013-11-24 23:04
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1388636)
During the time Elop has been totally wrecking NOKIA's handset business Ranjeev Suri has taken NSN from problem child to profitability. He should be in with a shout.
I was also thinking of the same thing. He also gave the best and sharpest presentation of his business line in the stockholders meeting.

gerbick 2013-11-24 23:16
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1388680)
I was also thinking of the same thing. He also gave the best and sharpest presentation of his business line in the stockholders meeting.
This kind of Nokia leadership needs to be up front and center so their stock price(s) will gradually get to where it should be.

uTMY 2013-11-25 00:40
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Care to do the same?

I thought I just did, see above.

That's your understanding of that phrase ...

Perhaps you are challenged by two words?

Care to answer why many more chose otherwise?

er ... because they want to?

Thinking that your way is the only way ...

I am not sure I stated anything of the sort ... but you have missunderstood me on this point before.

rgds

gerbick 2013-11-25 01:20
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Originally Posted by uTMY (Post 1388689)
Care to do the same?
Honestly, I don't think we were in the same league of clarity.

Quote:
That's your understanding of that phrase.
And you have yours.

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Perhaps you are challenged by two words?
Apparently you're offended by those two words whereas I'm not. Again, we differ. Nothing more needs to be said than just that.

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Care to answer why many more chose otherwise?

er ... because they want to?
Good try. I'll talk with others that can be more specific.

Thanks for the conversation. It was... enlightening.

Lumiaman 2013-11-25 03:58
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1388637)
99.9% of idiots agree.
What do you use on a daily basis?

Lumiaman 2013-11-25 04:00
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1388679)
Don't confuse "idiot proof" with "have your cake and eat it too." The Lumia 800 and the n9 look almost indistinguishable, but one's a phone and the other is a computer with phone capabilities, respectively.
So is iphone. Much better computer than N9. Actually N9 was a special child, with special needs, all pretty but nowhere to go.

gerbick 2013-11-25 04:21
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1388699)
So is iphone. Much better computer than N9.
erm... no. Hell no.

pichlo 2013-11-25 08:33
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For the record, I don't have any negative associations with the phrase "idiot proof" either. It means, "designed in such a way that a clueless user can't break it". Note this is not the same as, "designed for clueless users".

On phone vs. computer. I was forced to use a spare Android phone for two weeks while I was dealing with certain issues on my N900. Both devices have a hardware keyboard and the same screen size and resolution, yet the difference was quite striking. The N900 is clearly a computer with a by-the-way phone functionality while Android is clearly a phone that by the way can also run "apps".

switch-hitter 2013-11-25 08:42
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1388698)
So is iphone. Much better computer than N9.
Ha ha ha ha

There's that humour again.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1388698)
What do you use on a daily basis?
Android of course. If you really want a smartphone you currently have to choose between Android and BB10. I might treat myself to a Z10 too now the price has crashed (now < £180 from Amazon UK!).

I've also been toying with the idea of getting a Nexus 4 so I can put MultiROM on it and have one phone with Android, Ubuntu Touch and Firefox OS on it. Anyone tried that?

@gerbick
Do you know if the Z10 offers the ability to directly run QML scripts using QML Scene?


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