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qole 2011-08-15 23:52

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I wanted some of the newer versions of the Big Apps from Squeeze, but yes, I think a pure Lenny image would (mostly) work. The pulse stuff probably still needs to be hacked.

Estel 2011-08-16 01:34

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
As for gconf2 question, some time ago qole answered me why new version can be installed (conflict with maemo one old version), and suggested that only one solution may be "hacking" new version a way that it won't conflict with maemo side, used to work with older version. then, it could be included in, for example, CSSU, and Debian version should stop making conflicts.

As there is no sign of anyone knowledgeable enough and willing to perform such a hard task, it seems that we're "doomed" to lenny/squeeze mix, or even older pure leny. At least, for now.

mscion 2011-08-16 22:20

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sulu (Post 1070718)
I don't se how, but on the other hand I don't want to exclude it. I included it as an attachment. Except for the keycode24 line where I tried to address the ISO_LEVEL3 issue it's still the way it was when I created it.

The performance is fine. It's the functionality which isn't. I just mentioned the start performance because it seemed odd that the time increased. Now that I know where this comes from I'm merely interested in finding out how to disable this pcmanfm start. I had a look in the openbox autostart folder but couldn't find any autostart scripts. I also checked the /etc/rc* files but there is nothing as well and /etc/init.d/* also doesn't contain anything that might explain this problem.

Any idea why Squeeze messes the image while the Lenny/Squeeze mix doesn't?

As I said the reason why I did a dist-upgrade was because some software was silently broken. I knew in advance that this most likely will cause some problems, but I hoped that there would have been some progress during the time when I wasn't in these forums.
I still have my backups so it's not a desaster that the dist-upgrade caused problems. I just would have liked one clean release.

Do you have a clue why gconf2 breaks so much stuff?



Edit:
I just solved the pcmanfm problem. The autostart file I never found was:
Code:

/etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart
It has the following content:
Code:

setxkbmap
#xkbset exp 60 =sticky =twokey =latchlock
#xkbset sticky -twokey latchlock
@lxde-settings-daemon
@lxpanel --profile LXDE
@pcmanfm -d

After a little bit of googling I found that the -d parameter changed to -desktop between the pcmanfm versions in Lenny and Squeeze. So the last line has to look like this now:
Code:

@pcmanfm -desktop
There is no pcmanfm window popping up anymore and the start time of ED is back to normal.

However the keyboard problem remains. I tried to deactivate the first line in the above script but as I expected that changed nothing. I compared the xev outputs for the "blue arrow button" in Lenny and Squeeze and found the following:
Code:

Lenny  : keycode=108 keysym=0xfe03 symname=ISO_Level3_Shift
Squeeze: keycode=108 keysym=0xff8d symname=KP_Enter

So I guess the question is how do we get the Lenny values back in Squeeze without xmodmap? Does anybody know?

Hi Sulu.

My autostart file has one additional line:

@xbindkeys -f /home/user/.xbindkeysrc

This starts up xbindkeys automatically in LXDE

My last line is still

@pcmanfm -d

This might not be relavant but pretty certain all my OO upgrades are from squeeze.

WhiteWolf 2011-08-17 13:17

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
How I can install LibreOffice? I'm using debian-m5-v3e.img

Thanks.

mscion 2011-08-17 19:48

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWolf (Post 1071785)
How I can install LibreOffice? I'm using debian-m5-v3e.img

Thanks.

Hi. Libre Office is in squeeze-backports and wheezy + other dangerous places...

To access squeeze-backports, edit your file /etc/apt/sources.list by adding the line

deb http://www.backports.org/debian squeeze-backports main contrib non-free

Then fire up Synaptic Pkg Mg and do a search on libreoffice

I havn't downloaded it but I'd be interested in knowing how it compares to OO.

WhiteWolf 2011-08-18 12:53

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Thanks, I'll try.

WhiteWolf 2011-08-18 15:33

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I added the repository.

Returns a dependency error when trying to install LibreOffice

Estel 2011-08-18 19:51

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I've tried to update to LibreOffice some time ago, and it require gconf2 upgrade = no go.

It works, theoretically, but practically it's screwed, and also screw other applications ;)

WhiteWolf 2011-08-24 09:52

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
It features work best LibreOffice OpenOffice.

Would not it be possible to prepare an image of EasyDebian to include it?

Thanks for the great effort in maintaining EasyDebian.

sulu 2011-08-24 10:33

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1071467)
Hi Sulu.

My autostart file has one additional line:

@xbindkeys -f /home/user/.xbindkeysrc

This starts up xbindkeys automatically in LXDE

My last line is still

@pcmanfm -d

This might not be relavant but pretty certain all my OO upgrades are from squeeze.

Due to the pcmanfm call it seems like your LXDE is still from Lenny. I don't see any connection between xbindkeys and xmodmap in this case but I'll try if calling xmodmap or xbindkeys via autostart will make the keyboard work properly even in Squeeze.

I'd still prefer Squeeze over Lenny but since I'm not a version junkie and don't care for multimedia support in ED I might as well try a pure Lenny.

@qole:
Did you take any notes about creating your ED images, ideally a script?
I guess the main step of creating an image via debootstrap is no big hurdle but considering all the little tweaks you applied afterwards like binding directories from Maemo or adding selected packages from Squeeze I think the effort should not be underestimated. Therefore it would be nice to have some template instead of trying to reverse engineer an existing ED image.


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