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russo_br 2010-02-20 16:17

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
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Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 537943)
I like the fact that you can create any Linux, but one of the biggest problems with Linux is continual fragmentation. While they are all at the core Linux, dealing with the nuances of each because someone didn't like this or that at some point gets counterproductive.

Tottally agree with the continual fragmentation affecting Linux in general. That's one downside of the open source, the community is the core value but also makes it difficult to stick with one common roadmap.

I work in a role of selling Linux high-end servers for mission critical applications. You can see in the server market that only Red Hat and Suse are well accepted in the corporate market, and the main reason is the ecosystem of supported applications from 3rd parties. I guess lots of the members here work(ed) for big companies, and you can compare Oracle DB supported OS for example. Most Red Hat versions are officially supported by the launch of a new version, but CentOS (Red Hat free distribution) is not. For those whom are getting the point I am trying to make, Meego on N900 supported by Nokia will be like Red Hat, while a Meego version ported by the community would be like CentOS.

Rauha 2010-02-20 16:36

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
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Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 537680)


FACT!

NOKIA N900 WILL NEVER GET MEEGO NOR MAEMO6.

FACT!

NOKIA N900 WILL NEVER GET VIDEO CALLING, PORTRAIT MODE ETC..

FACTS... so MANY facts...

Evidence for these fatcs is hidden under your caps-lock key?

geohsia 2010-02-20 17:44

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
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Originally Posted by russo_br (Post 538609)
Tottally agree with the continual fragmentation affecting Linux in general. That's one downside of the open source, the community is the core value but also makes it difficult to stick with one common roadmap.
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Most Red Hat versions are officially supported by the launch of a new version, but CentOS (Red Hat free distribution) is not. For those whom are getting the point I am trying to make, Meego on N900 supported by Nokia will be like Red Hat, while a Meego version ported by the community would be like CentOS.

If we look at a pure Linux community I think they're ok with the model Nokia is adopting, but when you're trying to attract typical smartphone consumers the model doesn't fly (thus the angst).

Most enterprises only go with SuSE or Red Hat because they want (need really) the "one throat to choke". If there is an issue, they go to one vendor to demand a fix. If its from the community you hope someone hears your cry for help or you fix it yourself. I can't speak for everyone but I think the non Linux consumer wants to look to Nokia to be the one to manage their software.

Now if I am wrong someone should tell me but as far as I know the community can't touch the core apps which is the big issue. What if there are issues with memory leaks, kernel panicks, battery drain or the core apps (phone, browser, etc) just need to be updated. The community can't touch that. I love my third-party apps, but the phone core system and functionality is justas important if not more.

So we have a problem, how do we get these types of users comfortable with the Linux model? I don't know. I'm not sure we can or if we even should.

This is an important question to ask now because when they have the Harmattan to Meego (proper) transition the same questions may come up because its the same type of audience.

rushman 2010-02-20 19:13

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
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Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 538625)
Evidence for these fatcs is hidden under your caps-lock key?

FACT!

NOKIA N900 WILL GET MEEGO OR MAEMO6.

FACT!

NOKIA N900 WILL GET VIDEO CALLING, PORTRAIT MODE ETC..

FACTS... so MANY facts...

yorg 2010-02-20 19:34

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
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Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 537727)
well if it is not the fact why is not there any information related to the facts being the rumours?

If you can prove that N900 will get the MeeGo then my facts are wrong, until you can prove that my fact is wrong therefore you cannot say my facts are not the fact.

i am bitting my lip

:eek:

davidh101 2010-02-20 19:38

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
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Originally Posted by rushman (Post 538795)
FACT!

NOKIA N900 WILL GET MEEGO OR MAEMO6.

FACT!

NOKIA N900 WILL GET VIDEO CALLING, PORTRAIT MODE ETC..

FACTS... so MANY facts...

Very funny, i like how you turned that around!!!!!

Anyway, isn't it that more apps do have Portrait mode in the new PR1.1.1, such as the browser...................i could of course be entirely making that up

ajflex 2010-02-20 21:28

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
if you where to listen keenly clean your hears properly you would hear what have been said same for many of you stop complaining
start with existing nokia n900 and moblin os devices that existing willl get it first laptop tv will get 2nd quarter


same kernel used in moblin and maemo 6 =meego

qt 4.6 willl make Symbian and me-ego or (maemo6) will be easier to create the same game and application
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SNafLSS4JQ
but n900 will be getting me-ego os

time fine tuned is 11:00-11:40
talk about Symbian and me-ego os and the future in terms of Nokia n900 me-ego os

q&a will n900 get the me-ego os
15:42-17:02

Ronaldo 2010-02-20 21:58

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
not sure if this was posted but interesting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8nVh...layer_embedded

Laughing Man 2010-02-21 01:46

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
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Originally Posted by davidh101 (Post 538820)
Anyway, isn't it that more apps do have Portrait mode in the new PR1.1.1, such as the browser...................i could of course be entirely making that up

Well for 3rd party apps, it's up to the developer. But QT 4.6 does make it easier for developers to implement portrait support, if they choose.

As for 1st party applications (as in those that come with the firmware). Only the browser has had a recent addition to portrait mode support. Media player, email, the file manager, and the default RSS feeder still do not have portrait support.

maxximuscool 2010-02-21 02:31

Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
Stop hoping and start living. Whether N900 will get MeeGo or not is not you all to decide. My previous post was to stop people who has so much hope for MeeGo to be on N900. Those he who hope for it might be very disappointed if meego will not be on N900 in the future. But for who did not would still be happy with his N900 whether it is getting the MeeGo or not. My point is stop beg and exaggeratig yourself for MeeGO. And start living and enjoy your device because you paid for it. Do what ever you like with it. To me i rather stopped hoping for the time being and enjoying my device. Aslong my device running smoothly and every functionality works then i don't care.


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