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zimon 2013-10-05 21:45
Re: Microsoft buying Nokia's devices & services
 
TMO was right.
Nokia didnt listen.
The world lost.

Lumiaman was wrong also. MS never got it (WinCE v1 - v8) working like people wanted. WP and W8 suck.

The justice is done, if MS in couple of years dies away. Keep boycotting Microsoft, and tell others about it. Should be easier after the NSA leaks to get people to switch to OSS (Linux, Libreoffice, Ekiga, ...) from Microsoft (Windows, MS Office, Skype, ...)

xanderx 2013-10-05 23:03
Re: Microsoft buying Nokia's devices & services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1378369)
Anyways, MS is the only growing OS these days and I think they have a good product but that is not enough in this ultra competitive days. Jolla really has no chance whatsoever. It has no brand presence anywhere, is not even a blip on google trends and overall a leaderless bunch of not sure whos.
Who really cares about some trends? Looks like the purchase of the Jolla phone might depend on some stupid criteria.

mikecomputing 2013-10-06 00:50
Re: Microsoft buying Nokia's devices & services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zimon (Post 1378853)
TMO was right.
Nokia didnt listen.
The world lost.

Lumiaman was wrong also. MS never got it (WinCE v1 - v8) working like people wanted. WP and W8 suck.

The justice is done, if MS in couple of years dies away. Keep boycotting Microsoft, and tell others about it. Should be easier after the NSA leaks to get people to switch to OSS (Linux, Libreoffice, Ekiga, ...) from Microsoft (Windows, MS Office, Skype, ...)
ROTFL your so damn naive, Microsoft will not die. Most people will continue use Windows even if they only use it for simple task like web surfing. Also the fact that linux cannot replace windows cause there is no XYZ apps needed for xyz bussiness(photoshop, cad etc). And btw. most people does not care about NSA. They will forget it as soon as media finds something else talk about.

Also Microsoft will start massive patent troll for real 2014. And WP will grow in european and Asia simply because of massive marketing FUD and massive lobbying. This will also happen on the HW side. Microsoft will make sure they get the drivers first with help of money. Microsoft will also make sure too lock bootloaders on ARM and so on. Just wait and see :(

I would not mind if Jolla took more of the market than WP does in europe. But that will not happen simply because they dont have the money. Microsoft has.

tissot 2013-10-06 00:59
Re: Microsoft buying Nokia's devices & services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1378875)
ROTFL your so damn naive, Microsoft will not die. The patent troll will begin for real 2014. And WP will grow in european and Asia simply because of massive marketing FUD and massive lobbying. This will also happen on the HW side. Microsoft will make sure they get the drivers first with help of money and lock bootloaders on ARM etc...

I would not mind if Jolla took more of the market than WP does in europe. But that will not happen simply because they dont have the money. Microsoft has.
Yeah Microsoft wont be going anywhere many, many years to come.

Just to give example, Microsoft has $68 billion net cash reserves outside US that it can't move back to US because of tax reasons. It has been looking some years now to put that money to use. Nokia buy is funded by that cash and it hardly even shows.

Let alone that they have had record profit year behind them.

gerbick 2013-10-06 02:43
Re: Microsoft buying Nokia's devices & services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1378876)
Yeah Microsoft wont be going anywhere many, many years to come.

Just to give example, Microsoft has $68 billion net cash reserves outside US that it can't move back to US because of tax reasons. It has been looking some years now to put that money to use. Nokia buy is funded by that cash and it hardly even shows.
Wait... what? I know nothing of this. Any credible links?

Lumiaman 2013-10-06 04:33
Re: Microsoft buying Nokia's devices & services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1378878)
Wait... what? I know nothing of this. Any credible links?
Check this out :

http://ycharts.com/companies/MSFT/cash_on_hand

tissot 2013-10-06 04:33
Re: Microsoft buying Nokia's devices & services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1378878)
Wait... what? I know nothing of this. Any credible links?
http://qz.com/120616/microsoft-is-fu...om-the-taxman/

danramos 2013-10-06 05:04
Re: Microsoft buying Nokia's devices & services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1378886)
Anybody surprised by this?

Lumiaman 2013-10-06 05:15
Re: Microsoft buying Nokia's devices & services
 
No. They will buy their way to success.

tissot 2013-10-06 05:53
Re: Microsoft buying Nokia's devices & services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1378888)
Anybody surprised by this?
By what exactly?
I remember reading about it last year. Investors were rightly so pushing MS to do something with that cash.


I don't believe the cash reserves were directly linked to Nokia buy. The pile has been being build for years for tax reasons.


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