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mscion 2011-05-18 21:17

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1009505)
Lets see how many comment we get in this thread before Nokia actually Announce the damn device(s)

My guess is 1677 comments

I must admit it can get rather tiring reading through this thread with all the, speculation, wish lists, ups and downs, only for developers theory, the masses might not get a HW keyboard and on and on. Nokia, just bring on the BEAST!

Brock 2011-05-18 21:18

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1009515)
Assuming the bezel takes one third of the space between the alu and the icons, it makes something like 721 pixels.

Now anything can happen between this teaser and the device you may have in your hands, but the phone featured in the teaser is definitely 720*1080...

now i can sleep very well...

qwazix 2011-05-18 21:18

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Oh, I wasn't quick enough I suppose...
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Brock 2011-05-18 21:20

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1009517)
I must admit it can get rather tiring reading through this thread with all the, speculation, wish lists, ups and downs, only for developers theory, the masses might not get a HW keyboard and on and on. Nokia, just bring on the BEAST!

thank you for being part of it ;)

AndyNokia232 2011-05-18 21:23

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
I'm just imagining the Maemo/Meego folks at Nokia pouring over this thread and patting themselves on the back. They've got us all very excited about this device. And I also love the fact that the editing of the teaser ad is so quick, it's almost as if they set up a challenge for us: "Let's give them 0.25 seconds glimpse of the multitasking/bezel width/number of pixels and watch them write 9000 words about it." Well it worked!! :)

sevla 2011-05-18 21:24

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 1009523)
thank you for being part of it ;)

-HERE IS MY CONTRIBUTION-

I h8 elop for making me wait for this.. This is all i want tech wise.. i don't even think i was this excited over the damn iphone..

release the muthafracking phone all-got-damn-ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

zehjotkah 2011-05-18 21:27

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Maybe someone at a different timezone would like to take a look at this post: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=221
I'm going to bed...
Maybe you could prove erendorn right or wrong:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=327


shhh, the truth is, I don't want to be accused later for having leaked the real display resolution, being it 800x480, 1280x720 or any other resolution...:D

tissot 2011-05-18 21:30

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Verythrax (Post 1009493)
Are you sure? Did you discounted the black bezel? I'm betting on 854x480, since it's no different from my 4 icon wide grid in my SGS (800x480).

There's no way a V there will be just 6px wide and still well defined like that (?)

As a fellow SGS owner that screen is no real 800x480. It's a pentile screen and that's quite visible on certain web pages or on reading pdf files.

zehjotkah 2011-05-18 21:30

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyNokia232 (Post 1009526)
I'm just imagining the Maemo/Meego folks at Nokia pouring over this thread and patting themselves on the back. They've got us all very excited about this device. And I also love the fact that the editing of the teaser ad is so quick, it's almost as if they set up a challenge for us: "Let's give them 0.25 seconds glimpse of the multitasking/bezel width/number of pixels and watch them write 9000 words about it." Well it worked!! :)

haha!
that's unintentional marketing... :D
imagine if everything worked out and *nobody* would have known about the device until announcement.
then throw a week until shipment.
baaam. huge sales. mission accomplished...

but this here works nearly as well..

AndyNokia232 2011-05-18 21:34

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1009535)
haha!
that's unintentional marketing... :D
imagine if everything worked out and *nobody* would have known about the device until announcement.
then throw a week until shipment.
baaam. huge sales. mission accomplished...

but this here works nearly as well..

I agree. I reckon they'd sell out in 24 hours if they released this tomorrow! But I just really hope it is available soon, I will be pre-ordering, not going to wait for the price to drop - "here! Nokia! Take my debit card! Oh, my pin number? Sure! It's ****! Now get me this beauty - pronto!!" :)

Brock 2011-05-18 21:37

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1009529)
Maybe someone at a different timezone would like to take a look at this post: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=221
I'm going to bed...


shhh, the truth is, I don't want to be accused later for having leaked the real display resolution, being it 800x480, 1280x720 or any other resolution...:D

854x480 or 1280x720?

1280 = a dream
854 = maybe the truth?

@erendorn: how sure are you?
@zehjotkah: how sure are you?

My 100th post... mission accomplished...

good night @all and see you tomorrow... with new speculations, rumors and so on... :)

olympus 2011-05-18 21:42

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
So we are closing in these specs i guess: http://maemobriefs.blogspot.com/2010...20-screen.html

dtergens 2011-05-18 21:42

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Look how a rumor begin ...

Zehjotkah said that it's the first device to have this resolution :
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/18/t...ppi-coming-to/
:D

zehjotkah 2011-05-18 21:47

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Nope, ain't me who will say that. I still love my life... :D

erendorn 2011-05-18 21:49

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 1009542)
@erendorn: how sure are you?

count the pixels yourself :)

http://i55.tinypic.com/einul3.png

Brock 2011-05-18 21:51

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1009556)
count the pixels yourself :)

http://i55.tinypic.com/einul3.png

hmmm.... where is the 6th pixel?

msa 2011-05-18 21:52

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
from the new (rumored?) specs:

Battery: 1320 mAh

looks like a bad sign to me... but then again, i hope the new hardware is just much more efficient.

Brock 2011-05-18 21:53

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by msa (Post 1009558)
from the new (rumored?) specs:

Battery: 1320 mAh

looks like a bad sign to me... but then again, i hope the new hardware is just much more efficient.

look at the date of this rumor... its from last year... so everything can change

godofwar424 2011-05-18 21:55

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
I am hoping with all my might that theres a Xenon flash :P

Just please, why would you stick a 12MP camera with a nice big sensor together in a phone with Dual LED.... >.<

dtergens 2011-05-18 21:55

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
yep, 1200 mAh in FCC report.

qwazix 2011-05-18 21:59

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1009561)
I am hoping with all my might that theres a Xenon flash :P

Just please, why would you stick a 12MP camera with a nice big sensor together in a phone with Dual LED.... >.<

For me the flashlight app is more useful than the xenon. Vote for the LED's
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anapospastos 2011-05-18 22:00

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
If it is so, I see scud batteries saving us again.

qwazix 2011-05-18 22:02

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1009556)
count the pixels yourself :)

http://i55.tinypic.com/einul3.png

Is it really a screenshot? Advertisers love to photoshop screens on things, even if a real screen shot would look better...
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Pillum 2011-05-18 22:03

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
CPU Type: ARM Cortex-A8
....so no dualcore then (a8 = single core, a9 = dual core, a15 = quadcore)

Helmuth 2011-05-18 22:08

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1009561)
I am hoping with all my might that theres a Xenon flash :P

Just please, why would you stick a 12MP camera with a nice big sensor together in a phone with Dual LED.... >.<

But this way our Flashlight Apps could continue to work... ;)

qwazix 2011-05-18 22:14

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Will there be a functional NITdroid with voice calls for N9?



bahaha

Goodnight....
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AndyNokia232 2011-05-18 22:19

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
I would be happy with 12mp camera, but to be really honest, if I want to take good photos indoors when a flash is needed, my Panasonic Lumix does a great job. And also, the dual led flash on my N900 doesn't actually do a terrible job for those 'out at night in the pub' shots. So this is NOT a deal breaker for me. What would be? ..... Wow, I couldn't think of anything!! haha

Jedibeeftrix 2011-05-18 22:27

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
never mind 720p, all i want is qHD, so 960x540.

erendorn 2011-05-18 22:29

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1009568)
Is it really a screenshot? Advertisers love to photoshop screens on things, even if a real screen shot would look better...

It's taken from the vid, I don't know more. If the teaser is completely shopped, so be it! Also I consider the base of the V to be 2px wide (compared to the sides).

slender 2011-05-18 22:45

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1009501)
Andoid doesn't install apps, it just downloads a file and puts it in a folder along with the other executables. No repositories, no dependencies, nothing. That's why it takes 3 seconds.

btw. to end user it doesn´t matter :| Speed is king no matter how it is played behind curtains. Only people who are really interested are people hanging around here :|

IMO it should not take more than 3 secs and should not halt whole OS while doing these heavy I/O operations.

godofwar424 2011-05-18 22:47

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillum (Post 1009569)
CPU Type: ARM Cortex-A8
....so no dualcore then (a8 = single core, a9 = dual core, a15 = quadcore)

What are you talking about?

Where is the proof that this is even true?

Because the chances of them using the SAME processor that they used in a 2 year old phone is HIGHLY unlikely, especially as it is the successor to that phone..

Most likely going to be based on one of them ST Ericson bases, hopefully the one with the A9 and the Adreno GPU which looked perfect espc as nokia partnered with them AND ST Ericcson did show off a MeeGo running prototype of the U8500 system.

jakiman 2011-05-18 22:53

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1009501)
Andoid doesn't install apps, it just downloads a file and puts it in a folder along with the other executables. No repositories, no dependencies, nothing. That's why it takes 3 seconds.

Yeah. I know that actually. It just copies the apk file.
But it's interestinig that, to the end user, it's what it is.

What I really want for my N900 is the ability to play 720p files.
I hate re-encoding / re-downloading as it can only play SD videos.
So yeah, the hardware is lacking there for sure.

Also, I would like a bigger screen / more resolution now.

Actually, Nokia will surprise the world if N9/50 uses this new LCD:
(They say a device will use it this year. wonder what phone will use it?)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/18/t...ppi-coming-to/

I'm hoping it's not the iPhone5......

shmerl 2011-05-18 22:55

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Installing some Qt based applications on Android pulls and installs the whole Qt library (temporarily codenamed Necessitas there) which is a dependency. So it does not take 3 seconds at all. Installing shared dependencies when needed is a reasonable practice, otherwise each application will bloat the device with privately bundled libraries.

The fact that Android installation doesn't handle binary dependencies resolution natively it's not an advantage - it's actually a deficiency of design, caused by the original absence of Android NDK and idea of all applications being Dalvik based. Now that Android has an NDK, it becomes a total mess.

somedude 2011-05-18 23:49

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1009591)
Most likely going to be based on one of them ST Ericson bases, hopefully the one with the A9 and the Adreno GPU which looked perfect espc as nokia partnered with them AND ST Ericcson did show off a MeeGo running prototype of the U8500 system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1009591)
Where is the proof that this is even true?


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Faustino 2011-05-19 00:52

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
I'd be a little underwhelmed with the cpu.. but.. having held this device briefly, it's either very efficient or else these specs are wrong because the phone is very fast and snappy..


Screen Resolution: 1280 * 720
Screen Color Depth: 24 bit
Screen Size: 4.0 inch
Display Technology: OLED (RGB)
Thickness: 14.2 mm
Weight: 150
Input Method: Touch Screen and slide-out QWERTY keyboard
Data Bearers: IEEE 802.11b/g/n WLAN, HSPA +, WCDMA, EGPRS, EDGE
CPU Type: ARM Cortex-A8
CPU Clock Rate: 1 GHz

Graphics Processor: SGX540
Flash Technology: Adobe Flash 1.10
Camera Resolution: 12 MP (4000 * 3000)
CMOS sensor: 1/1.7 inch
Camera focal length: 28 mm
Video Recording Resolution: 1280 * 720
Video Recording Frame Rate: 30 fps
Mass Storage Memory: 64 GB Mass
NAND Memory: 1 GB
SDRAM Memory: 512 MB SDRAM Memory: 512 MB
Maximum Memory Card Size: 32 GB
Connectivity: Bluetooth 3.0, HDMI mini connector C, Micro-USB (OTG) ...
Battery: 1320 mAh

gerbick 2011-05-19 00:55

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
What exactly is Flash 1.10?

Was that reversed? Even so... today my Xoom and Atrix got an update to Flash Player 10.3.

Fresh Prince of Nowhere 2011-05-19 01:10

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
The 64gb specs looks to be consistent in both spec sheets so that is great news to me. Going from a 40gb n900 to 16gb htc HD7 really hurts

law138 2011-05-19 01:23

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Does anyone know if this phone will be 3g or 4g ?

Faustino 2011-05-19 01:26

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by law138 (Post 1009626)
Does anyone know if this phone will be 3g or 4g ?

Only Kenny G knows the answer to this

http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/ima...ts/kenny-g.jpg

Daneel 2011-05-19 02:58

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
So, the N9/950 screen might actually be this one? http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/18/t...ppi-coming-to/

That is exciting ;)


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