Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Well, that doesn't stop me from finding out what codes my tv is using.... if you could point me to the right direction, im gladly to help you

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

The best way is always to go directly to the source. :) The original remote control that came with your TV is broadcasting information in infrared, all you need is an infrared receiver to see it. Many PCs today have an IR receiver built-in to them; if you can capture that information with an appropriate software program (such as the LIRC server itself), I can take that data and get it into Pierogi. (Also, you can use the generated LIRC file with any number of other apps, such as "irreco", or the new crop of LIRC apps on Android...)

Unfortunately, I'm not an expert myself on doing this; up to now, I've mostly just been working with config files that other people have created...

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Pressing "antenna" does nothing.
Teletext itself works. You only need the ttx/mix, the coloured keys, and the numbers for use. I just can't switch it off. The same button brings you back to TVantenna from teletext and AV mode. This is called "TV" on the remote controllers.
On my old sharp, or orion, the TTX button was a cycle. TTX with black background/TTX with transparent background/normal TV. On samsung it's different.
Both remote controllers work well for both TV's, except the previous channel feature.
samsung cz21m063n Plano is the newer, but if you need both, I can move it out to see.
Yes I use pierogi 1.1.

Edit: the other TV is: CZ-20F32T

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Utility/Input button takes me to source:AV anyway... Also, source:HDMI is considered by the TV as volume down.

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Ok, yeah, it appears that I need to clean up my Samsung keysets quite a bit. :) Samsung has held onto a single IR protocol for a very, very long time, and has done quite a bit of button shuffling over the years. I thought I could just cram them all together without too much effort, but I'm missing a lot of the subtleties in the command sets that way.

Got it -- newer models seem to be using 0x36 for "TV" (which is what I had Antenna mapped to), older ones are using 0x1B...

That command value seems to have stayed the same over the years, but on my own Samsung it's a toggle between TV and video, rather than just video. I'll cross-list it under both "Input" and "Aux" for now.

Interesting! Volume down is 0x0B and source:HDMI is 0x8B, so I guess the TV is ignoring the high bit. Only the more recent Samsungs seem to have commands with the high bit set anyway, so I guess that makes some sense. :) I'll try to clean that up as well.

I don't seem to have config files for those exact TV models, but I've got a lot of config files that are close. :) Just to make sure, though, let me ask: in the picture with those two remote controls, the lower control has separate buttons for up, down, left, right, and enter, where in the upper remote they are integrated with the volume, channel/programme, and menu buttons. I've also got config files that differ on those points. Could you confirm for me that the lower remote _doesn't_ change the volume or channel when you use the directional keys? Thanks!

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Copernicus, I've downloaded WinLirc, but do you know what I have to do to get it work on my hardware?

I've got a:
Intel(R) 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Controller - 27B9

hardware ID's:
ACPI\SMCF010
*SMCF010


(The laptop runs on Windows XP, it's not mine so I can't install another OS on it though... so... I hope you can help me and let me "Record" the IR for a config file :) )

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Should be no need for that, WinLIRC should run fine on XP (or, I think, pretty much any other flavor of Wndows). :)

I think this might be an identifier for an "IrDA" device. IrDA was designed for computer-to-computer data transfer; unfortunately, it works at different frequencies and power levels than "Consumer IR". I think I've heard of folks manipulating some forms of IrDA hardware to support CIR, but I'm not sure what that would entail...

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

If one have a Regular desktop PC with serial port, it should be pretty easy (almost bulletproof) to build IR receiver (or even receiver-sender combo) yourself, for a local currency equivalent of ~5 dollars or less, in cost of parts. Google for it, there are dozens of step-by-step tutorials for doing so.

When I was interested in it few years ago (thanks to N900, IIRC), the only reliable way to grab IR remotes with LIRC was, indeed, building serial port connected IR receiver. USB wasn't supported by FOSS, and build-in remote receivers in notebooks weren't even a plan.

It was a no-go for me, as I have a notebook without serial port (acting as desktop - it's Dell XPS m1530 on best parts set, quite a powerful beast, even for today's standards - for off-topic digression, see footnote). From Copernicus poost, it seems to have changed much - I should take another look at it. My notebook have have IR receiver port, designed to be used with Dell remote (to control windows media player, or similar nonsense, and some windows keys). Maybe I could abuse it to grab some keysets?
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On different note: I'm surprised, that new mobile devices are coming with IR sender. I thought it's very geeky subject, not interesting "mass market" consumers? On one hand, it's nice, as we may have boost in keysets creation interest. OTOH, I'm almost saddened - now, I can disable all those pesky TVs in waiting longues, while innocently "writing something" on my N900, without drawing any suspicions ;) Popularising this as "normal" feature of mobile phones spoils it :(

/Estel

Anegdote: Notebook-as-desktop It originate from times, where I haven't had N900 to act as travel mobile computer, so preffered notebook over normal desktop as main computer, as I travel extremely much. Now, thanks to N900, notebook hardly even leave my DIY docking station - N900 + mini USB keyboard + USB mouse is my travel set, with VNC access to home PC, if I *really* need it to do some high-computional power tasks, or access some obascure files. Which hardly happens, anyway.

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Yes, I can confirm it.

So how does it work? I said that the RCs are interchangeable. On the upper RC(it's the older TV's one) you can't find a d-pad, nor a previous channel button. Using previous channel with the other RC does nothing on the older TV.
The D-pad is different.
On the newer RC(lower), it just works as a normal d-pad, nothing special. But you can use twe volume and channel keys too! You can fully control the menu with vol+-, CH+-, and menu buttons. That's what you see merged on the upper RC.
So yes, the lower RC has a d-pad, but it's just a comfort feature, you can live without it.

I hope my English is understandable. :D

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Yeah, I was surprised to find an IR port on my Note 10.1, it has much better range than the N900 too but unfortunately the software for it sucks compared to Pierogi. It's called "Peel", it has some interesting features like fetching TV listings and switching to that channel when a programme name is pressed but it crashes all the time so I always keep my N900 and Pierogi handy.

Pierogi new remote
 

I would like to add a new remote control in pierogi software, but I couldn't understand how to request a new file but I was thinking some of you got the ideea by now about how the software works and how to add a remote file by yourself.

I am missing my Benq GP1 projector remote control and being up in the ceiling it's a pain in the a*s to get a chair, turn it on, maybe change the input and much more...

http://www.costcentral.com/proddetai...6001/11268737/ here is the remote control I need, with the compatibility list. The closest to that list was the MP620 projector, and here is the LIRC file for that http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/benq/MP620

Can you help me do something about it?

Re: Pierogi new remote
 

What the hell??
Go to pierogi thread request there it will be added :)

didnt you go through the pierogi thread at least once?? If not search it and now its in active topics...

Copernicus is way too helpful:)
Reply here again i ill use the solder iron to rip of the ir port...

Re: Pierogi new remote
 

I wrote this because I want to do it myself, not to request it. Stop being rude. I made this post to ask if someone found the remote sources in pierogi software so I can implement by myself a remote. I want to do that because this is a weird projector and I would need lots of testing before.

That's how you like it? To be dependent on someone to do something for you? Too bad, I'm not that kind of person. Cheers!

Re: Pierogi new remote
 

Yeah, honestly, I built Pierogi originally as an experiment for myself -- I really never expected it to become, well, popular. :) (It isn't nearly as flashy as QtIrreco or any of the other IR apps out there.) So I've been entering and storing data in my own peculiar method. (Actually, I think my method is much less peculiar than the other methods out there, but that's just my opinion.)

So I still haven't come up with a way to read external keyset data in Pierogi. Honestly, I wanted to build Pierogi as an app that contained every keyset internally, anyway. (The problems with the QtIrreco website show what can happen with apps that are dependent on an external source of data...)

I've got that LIRC file, and I've found five or six more BenQ projector config files on the hifi-remotes website, I'll get them into the next release of Pierogi. :)

Re: Pierogi new remote
 

Thank you :). And thank you for your wonderful explaining.

Re: Pierogi new remote
 

I am coming......wait

dozen a time requested feature that in on due...invoked by me on this series
go lurk around there the last couple of pages u will get it.:)
for now if you wana do that you need to look at the code find it add it thats it:)
for now copernicus is focussing on the database and clearing up the code to usable state. Then it will be feisable for that. :)

Re: Pierogi new remote
 

Please don't attack users of Pierogi. :) I would like to have as many of them as possible; there's absolutely no way I could test all the possible IR-controlled devices out there myself. :)

Re: Pierogi new remote
 

While I understand (and appreciate) will of doing it yourself, I still think that this discussion should be moved to main Pierogi's thread. Also, even if your projector is very niche, there is no reason to keep it outside main pierogi keyset database (putting aside fact, that currently, you need to code it into program itself). After all, why someone with same projector, should need to re-do same work, in, lets say, half of a year?

Cheers,
/Estel

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Absolutely! If you're willing to take the time to capture some keysets, I would love to add them to Pierogi, and I'm sure the LIRC project would love to add new config files to their collection as well. :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Thanks! I wanted to be sure whether the d-pad controls were using separate commands or not. (Samsung, like many manufacturers, seems to waver between combining or separating the two sets of controls as time goes by.)

Re: Pierogi new remote
 

After I would do it for myself I would donate it to the creator of pierogi to add it to his stable version. But I am sick of trying to control my projector manually, since it's in a very uncomfortable position to operate. I didn't know how long would take to implement a new version, and ... I don't want to loose anymore time :).

That was my initial intention, but now if the creator came here and said he would do it, I'm going to let him, but I hope it doesn't take too long...

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Peel seems to be becoming the standard; it seems that both Samsung and HTC are partnering with Peel for remote control apps on their new phones.

I've really gotta see what it would take to access the IR hardware on these Android phones; I think Pierogi could beat out Peel in several ways. (I'd love to see if Peel can handle stateful air conditioners. :) )

Re: Arch Linux ARM on N900
 

sorry:) i though he didnt go through the thread
anyway i was faulty:(
as i dont have n900 for now what if i go to the store make a list of ir devices model numbers specialy of obscure brands . Will it be of help as the n900 is a big no till my exams end 25 days:)
india

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

^^they can use your code silently add their cosmetic features give a add on tv bla bla world first:(

Re: Arch Linux ARM on N900
 

Well, it is my goal to eventually have every IR keyset I can find entered into Pierogi. :) (<mad scientist mode> And use it to take over the world! Buah Ha Ha Ha!</mad scientist mode>) But I'm prioritizing keyset requests from folks who have actual, controllable hardware.

I have access to _enormous_ piles of config files from the LIRC project, the hifi-remotes website, and the Pronto website. And I do add them in as I find time. But all this data is messy, poorly maintained, and probably buggy to begin with. And I'm never going to be able to test most of it myself. I really need the help of people who have access to the hardware to tell me when I've got something wrong. :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Not a problem! :) All my keyset data has been derived from freely available sources on the net; it's not like I have some secret repository of data somewhere. And if they want to actually start using my own peculiar form of keyset management, well, more power to them. (So long as they abide by the terms of the GPL, if they are going to copy my code directly.)

Re: Arch Linux ARM on N900
 

Well I can and will do it. Also, if you want me to test out some devices, add some Canon projectors, especially LV-7575. I wanna have some fun at my college!

Re: Pierogi new remote
 

^^u got the intension wrong am also in (mad mode):D
Actually i wanna be prepared with configs (bullets) to openly test fire on the store:D

Devices i will be listing will be available to test for a brief time as after exams a short tour to all my loved ones(insert a bit of pierogi love)
m seldomly stepping out of home for now so a bit late mite be:)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Why not u create a mad pierogi as u stated on the other thread .
It will have a heck of untested ir data whenever u have time just dump pile of data insanely
excliptly for willing users
should have a buttonwide serch function
cheers:)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Ah, but that's what I've been doing; there's already a heck of a lot of untested IR data in Pierogi now. I dumped in the entire LIRC collection for the big names (LG, Samsung, Sony, Toshiba, etc.). I've been getting to the smaller LIRC collections as I've had time. :)

Been working on that. :) No estimate as to when it would be available, though; there are a few kinks to work out...

Re: Arch Linux ARM on N900
 

Hmm. That might be a little tougher; I'm not finding any config files for any sort of Canon projector. :(

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Good to know :)
btw name it much diffrenty like pierogi rdx:D
Will it be installable aside pierogi i.e two pierogi
or we would have the choice to install one:)

Re: Pierogi new remote
 

Well good night :)

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Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Can I combine different buttons from remotes into one remote?
My TV wasn't listed in Pierogi's keysets, so I tried the Automated Keyset Search and I was amazed that 4-5 keysets shut down my TV. I tried them all and every keyset had some buttons that the others didn't so I would like to combine them into one keyset. How can I achieve that?

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Honestly, that isn't easy, for multiple reasons. One, trying to find the buttons that actually work with your TV (and work correctly) can be very time consuming. Two, Pierogi really isn't set up to dynamically switch buttons around, at least not yet. (The "macro" mechanism might be used to do that, but the macros are broken right now; I just haven't been able to get back to fixing them yet.)

But, if you can tell me the model number for your TV, I may be able to find an accurate config file for it and add that into Pierogi, which is probably the easiest solution of all. :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Thread 'Pierogi new remote' merged

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

I already wrote down in a notebook what does every button do with my TV in those Keysets

I'm not very informed about those IR commands and keysets and lirc, I just saw that thread 1 month ago and gave Pierogi a try, I was really impressed that I could do everything my remote control does with my N900(I love that phone) just I had to switch between keysets to get some advanced buttons. But still as I'm not very competent in that area I will trust and agree with you :D
I doubt you will ever find my TV because I researched it and I think the producer just re-brands some TVs and releases them by the name of "NEO" (Thats the brand that is written on the TV itself). I'm not sure about the exact model. The 'official' website is down.

The keysets that work with it are: Bush TV Keyset 1, Crown TV Keyset 1, Daewoo TV Keyset 1, Ei TV Keyset 1, LG TV Keyset 2a, Universum TV Keyset 1 and some others but they have limited functionality only to switch between channels and no other special buttons

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Yeah, I'm afraid you're right; I can't find "NEO" in any of my sources. :(

Ah, these guys are all using the Philips "RC5" protocol, with a device code of 0. (I don't know why all these manufacturers refuse to choose a non-0 device code for their devices...)

I'm amazed you've gone to all the trouble of noting down the keys that worked! If you're willing to give me that data, I'll go ahead and throw together an improvised NEO keyset. :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

I will tomorrow! Thank you very, very much in advance!!!

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

I've gone ahead and pushed up another update to Pierogi. This one is just to get some keysets out there, while I'm still playing around trying to set up the favorites list to remember the last panel accessed for each keyset.

This update has a new Mitsubishi projector keyset, half a dozen new BenQ projector keysets, and an improved Samsung TV keyset collection.

The Mitsubishi projector had discrete on and off buttons, so I've done the same temporary hack as with the Epson, and assigned them to the green and red buttons on the Utility panel...

I'm kinda amazed at the BenQ keysets; this is apparently another manufacturer that believes each new device should have an entirely new remote control. I'm just not going to be able to get a good generic keyset for these projectors. :(

I've now got the Samsung TVs arranged into newer TVs (keyset family 1), and older TVs (keyset family 2). (Keyset family 3 -- what was family 2 before this update -- is odd, and may not actually be for Samsung TVs at all.) If you already have some Samsung keysets in your favorites list, you may need to check them to see if they are still the correct ones for your device.

As always, be warned that this is a fresh build, and as such may contain bugs! Please notify me if you find some. :)