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That's a thought.... If jolla release a n950 / n9 type device with 2013 internals.

What's the possibility of back porting harmatten or dare I say maemo on to it.

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God no!


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Hehe. I'd personally prefer it to be holographic and to pop up in the air ;)

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Innovative?? My Siemens SX1 could do this ten years ago... :)
http://itc.ua/img/ko/2004/16/cebit9.jpg

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not sure if this was mentioned but Jolla are asking people how much they would be willing to pay for a Jolla phone pre-order on their facebook page.

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Wtf... 0.00

What's the hw and sw? Pretty important factors...

Clowns

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I've already asked them who I should write the cheque for.
I'm pretty excited about the news and kudos to Jolla for successfully keeping everything (hardware related) under wraps for so long.
Still not sure I'd be happy to give up my H/W QWERTY keyboard though.
If this first device has something that makes me want it then I may be willing. If it sells enough then someone somewhere will develop a clip on keyboard. In the meantime I'll be splashing the cash on another N900 this weekend :)

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Well, obviously they'd be taking note of peoples hw/sw expectations based on the most they'd be prepared to pay, that's kinda the point of the exercise >.>

VKB's have improved massively in recent years, I rarely miss a physical qwerty anymore, if it's a VKB that matches the best currently out there*, I'll be happy
Even better though would be a physical qwerty similar to what's used on MS's surface tablets, but ideally with better tactile feedback...

*for which there's a few contenders

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I can only answer that if they are ready to disclose what networks they are going to support. Without that, paying blindly and then getting a device that won't be usable would be rather weird. If it's a theoretical question of "how much are you ready to pay for a Jolla phone that you'd like" - that's a bit different.

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Can anyone recall the answer to this?
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...03#post1336503

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Strange question to ask, indeedy.
Surely they want to cover their costs.
Unless it was asked on one of the hundreds of unofficial Jolla pages that sprung up.

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I'm pretty sure they've got all bases covered in that respect. Unless there's some obscure outfit that's trying to operate on some offworld frequency with a hexagonal SIM card.
Otherwise it's throwing the whole "Open" thing out the window.

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No no no and no.

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...i throw a heartful "yes" in the mix ;)

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I don't think so to be honest. When I look at my smartphone using friends, they actually value a more stripped down user interface. Infact, if they were given the functionality of an N900, they'd just end up being more confused (in general). Being honest about it, 90% of what they do is Facebook/Whatsapp. A few use Twitter. A few use Instragram. A few use the web browser (it always surprises me just how little the browser is used). They may occasionally play the latest games (Angry Birds, Draw Something, whatever is the latest flavour of the day). After that, other apps don't really matter. The reality is that a significant proportion of smartphone users would really be just as well served by owning a feature phone. They don't know that of course, so they will sign themselves up to 24 month contracts at $50 a month because they fall for the marketing hype of having the latest Iphone.

As for doing anything productive on a phone, you need only look at the most popular apps for proof that most people have no interest in doing real work on a phone. The trend is always going towards less content, rather than more content. Blogging for example is a dying technology at the moment. Why? Because if you want to make a decent update to a blog, you need to spend at much, much more time than the 20 seconds it takes to write out a Tweet. Even RSS and news apps are being killed by Twitter. Twitter is always first and most users would now rather get an update in 140 characters than having to sit and spend 2-3 minutes reading an article. Instagram has taken things to the next level because it has completely done away with writing anything at all - you just have to upload a photo and share it with your friends.

I understand the irony of what I am saying. The smartphone is essentially dumbing down mobile technology and that the internet will eventually consist of looking at pictures of cats that look like Hitler and reading about what Justin Beiber is doing.

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The point that some seem to be missing here....
Is that all indications are that the entire stack of Sailfish* will be more open than anything else on the market (yes Ubuntu too), aside from -perhaps- Android & FFOS**.
And the latter is really in a different league/category of devices & sw_dev anyway...
If Sailfish can get the slightest bit of traction, then longer-term it'll definitely be more open than Android, but initially that'll probably have to be curtailed somewhat.
So if folks aren't happy with certain design paradigms, it'll be far easier for users/co's/interest_groups to fork & offer something else, or contribute towards refining/overhauling the existing UX.

*not the Jolla specific flavour of Sailfish ofc
**& no Tizen doesn't come even close & OpenWebOS doesn't even count at this point, & the stack of Android may be just as open, but the ecosystem as-a-whole most probably won't be.

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Jolla Confirms It Will Show Its Debut Handset Next Month And Kick Off “Pre-Sales Campaign” For Fans After Mid-May

Facebook updates:

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Jolla Mobile are asking this. I thought that they are not the official Jolla FB channel?

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Now they saying "sales start" in H2 2013, I hope they're not using that to worm out of it "being in some users hands" by Dec.

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2H means two hours?

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2H = two Half moons = 4 weeks

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actually I mean H2 of 2013, corrected, sorry for the confusion.

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If you give money and get a product, you pay VAT/sales taxes, if you give money and receive money (coupon/dividends), you pay taxes on revenue (which could be much higher).
There is absolutely nothing crazy or unbelievable about that.

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They have been attempted, they were called Windows Mobile phones, and worked with similar paradigms as desktops (windows that can be minimized, maximized, menus, etc).

It worked out so well... Until the new interfaces came.

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I don't think they get any dividends. Usual crowdfunding works in a way that those who fund something receive a pledge from the developers, who promise to deliver some product at a certain date. In essence it's funding, but it looks like a pre-sale. Because of that it's not working as other funding mechanisms (such as investors, stocks and etc.). I.e. more resources are lost on taxes (it can depend on the scheduling and year boundaries though).

See http://www.forbes.com/sites/suwcharm...-the-tail-tax/

What's crazy about it, that for many crowdfunded projects such taxes are senseless, since it's their only investment source, and it's not logical that they are deprived of a big chunk of such investment, while corporate investments aren't getting butchered in the same way.

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I just wish that Jolla's almost sole usage of F*ckbook and Twitter would cease. Unprofessional post-hip sh*t.

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They are present on Identi.ca but rarely use it. They are not present on Diaspora*. I don't use FB or Twitter, so I usually don't track Jolla there at all.

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Jolla should deliver a jolla T-shirt with different jolla logos and a user specific text decided by preOrders. Only for PReOrers. This is mine:

http://i49.tinypic.com/1jue12.png

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Speaking about burning platform, there is a Qt game (Elpo) about it, which runs only on Symbian. Is there some Symbian emulator that can run it elsewhere? (That's really too much of the off-topic, but I never figured out if such emulator even exists or not).

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pretty sure that game (or some strain of it) was also on harmattan

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anyone?
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=930

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May be, I probably just never saw it. I still have that Symbian sis file lying around though, but there is nothing to run it on.

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I remember the game was pulled off Nokia store lightning fast :D

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this, the number is more like 200 millons...
http://www.zdnet.com/jolla-nabs-200m...13-7000005117/

So it was 200 m Euros, which is about $260 m.

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Jolla Sailfish, The Unlike Qt-Powered Mobile OS

Meet-up will takes place on Monday, May 20, 2013, So we could see the Jolla phone before then :)

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lets hope jolla will be first for once...

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/ba...12/05/may1.jpg

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No need to backport anything. Just make it Linux+GNU+QT and completely open, then anyone(right) can design the type of desktop they want.

then we just need similar design features of N900 in the actual device. (HW keyboard, useful buttons, stylus, video watching flip etc)

Everything is wrong about N9 in my mind, to be honest, the tip of the iceberg was when I brought the device on my holiday to watch video on in the airplane. i had to hold the device the whole time as it lacked the simple yet genious flip support on the back of the telephone to tilt the N900 when plaing it on the table. Furthermore I had to skip 2 episodes of the series I was watching, due to invalid filenames, so they were not found in the video player. the terminal of the N9 sucks, so I couldnt correct the names!!

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Do you think they understood exactly what your were asking there though?
I posed a similar set of Qns ages ago but the pricks never respond to me any more.
I've been uber critical/harsh one too many times... :rolleyes:

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I refuse to want to believe what you are saying, but I know you are right and I am fully aware of reality. Yet I want to deny that to myself in the hope of a better world.

Sad stuff.