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benny1967 2012-12-10 16:03

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
[QUOTE=specc;1303085The fact that I have used smartphones long before the iPhone existed, and wouldn't even consider the iPhone as a smartphone, hardly any androids for that matter, this is irrelevant. The girls and the grandmothers have stolen the smartphone.[/QUOTE]

So you're saying that lies become truth if only people repeat them often enough? No, not for me. There's right and there's wrong. No matter what the masses think.

specc 2012-12-10 16:42

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1303144)
So you're saying that lies become truth if only people repeat them often enough? No, not for me. There's right and there's wrong. No matter what the masses think.

right or wrong, the end result is the smartphone scene is becoming depleted of cool devices.

switch-hitter 2012-12-10 17:13

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1303138)
Sorry, but 100 million + people cant be wrong.

Yes they can, millions of people thought Hitler was right.

Lumiaman 2012-12-10 21:00

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1303140)
Do you see the contradiction in your sentence? You accuse someone of not having used iOS and quantify it with the 100+ million people stat; conversely do you mean those people tried Harmattan before sticking with iOS? :cool:

Who is Harmattan, by the way? Has anyone outside this forum heard of it????

Lumiaman 2012-12-10 21:02

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1303168)
Yes they can, millions of people thought Hitler was right.


Every product has a user based defined by Gaussian distribution. Some like it some dont. When you plot the curves, iOS and Harmattan are about 3 continents apart, with the peak, 300 fold over iOS. No overlap. >5 SD apart. That is a definition of being on the fringe. I guess that defines us as fringers, whoever bought N9.

gerbick 2012-12-10 21:03

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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1303138)
You never used iOS. Sorry, but 100 million + people cant be wrong.

Actually, they could. More people used DDT and asbestos and were very wrong.

Numbers don't mean much other than the marketing was quite successful.

Lumiaman 2012-12-11 00:11

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1303227)
Actually, they could. More people used DDT and asbestos and were very wrong.

Numbers don't mean much other than the marketing was quite successful.

What does DDT have to do with price of rice in China?

gerbick 2012-12-11 02:14

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1303280)
What does DDT have to do with price of rice in China?

About the same as 100 Million people buying iOS products and all of a sudden they're considered "right".

Here's a hint: Not a damn thing is relevant in either poorly scripted analogy - yours or mine.

Lumiaman 2012-12-11 03:07

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
They are right for the product we discuss , a handheld smartphone device. Just like little Nokia penny made history in its heyday, iPhone is the new Nokia. I rarely see Samsung galaxy...all I see are iPhones

gerbick 2012-12-11 03:22

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1303297)
They are right for the product we discuss , a handheld smartphone device. Just like little Nokia penny made history in its heyday, iPhone is the new Nokia. I rarely see Samsung galaxy...all I see are iPhones

Nope. I won't ever say that sales makes a person right. It's just an indicator that that many people bought into the marketing.

Thus, my analogy about DDT and asbestos still rings true. Many people don't make it right. They might just be uninformed.

Pertaining the Nokia WP phones (Lumia 900), besides my own which I gave to my wife, I don't see any. In fact, I've seen more Nokia N9's lately - 3 in total since I came back to the US than I have seen Lumia 900 and Lumia 920's, only 2 besides the aforementioned.

But I've seen plenty Samsung Galaxy Note - but not Note II's yet - and a metric ton of Samsung Galaxy II's, but not as many Galaxy III's - which is odd.

Anyway, 10+ million folks bought the SGS3 in a month. They can't be wrong, right?

Sales is not indicative of much other than how popular something is... not how right/wrong they are.


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