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I don't mean LXDE menu - I mean internal menu's of application (most of the time, LibreOffice menu). As far as I remember, some applications were also unable to start at all.

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Hi Sulu. Thanks for your efforts. I sometimes wonder what is the best mapping of keys on N900. You might consider reserving shift + arrow keys for copy and paste (think Rebhanna pointed this out once) and use some other combination for pipe. I use ctrl + down. Have fun considering what to use for <,>,^,[,],{,}!

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@Estel:
At least the file and edit menus of writer and calc weren't messed up. I didn't check the others and unfortunately I destroyed the image wher I installed Libreoffice while experimenting with that gconf-dbus issue. So unfortunately I can't test it right now. Maybe I'll give it another try.

@mscion:
Funny, I changed pipe to Ctrl+Down myself because I figured Shift+Down is essential when selecting text on a device that has very limited mouse support.
I mapped < and > to £ and € in Maemo's keyboard layout file so I don't have to care for that in Easy Debian. I usually don't use the other characters you mentioned on the N900.

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Little off-topic, but worth mentioning, I think - using also fn+shift as a modifier (maemo hardware keyboard re-map, not special for Easy Debian), I was able to map keyboard with all my language special characters (9 of them, if I recall correctly), all F1-F11 keys, TAB, Escape, Return, <,>,[,],{,},|,~,^, + some never used things like dead_ogonek etc + right click key, all without loosing any "regular" key or ability to shift-selection. I've ever get enough keys, to map Easy Debian keys in matter that it doesn't interfere with my "regular" maemo mapping (F1-F11 overlap, without any harm for usage on both Maemo and ED), + debian full-screen switch, which also works in Maemo (and make wonders).

This way, I practialy never use virtual keyboard, (well, used it one time, when I figured out that I've forget to map tilde - used it once via virtual keyb, and went to fix that in hardware mapping ;) ). no matter if doing regular writing, or coding scripts.

May be useful for some.

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Ah yes! I forgot about tilde... mapped to shift + space

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Maybe we should open a seperate thread (if there isn't already one) for discussion on Maemo keyboard layouts including the modified parts of our rx-51 files.
I'm pretty sure it will show that many of us have the same ideas and I guess this is also interesting for people who don't use Easy Debian.

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Nice idea, ho ever, there are plenty of threads less or more about hardware remapping layouts. I wonder if we should resurrect old one, or create another, less bloated/messy.

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I did a short search and it seems to me like most of the other threads are rather less than more about hardware remapping, so I'd suggest we start a new one. But maybe I've just missed a good thread.
I don't want to start a new one on my own because up to now I only changed £ and € so I can't say that I have lots of experience with what would be useful and which side effects might occur.
I'd like the idea to have the complete xbindkeys configuration of Easy Debian in Maemo's hardware layout so that Easy Debian's .xbindkeysrc really only has to care for very special things like wmctrl commands.
What is this 4th column in the rx-51 file? Is it Shift + blue arrow* or Ctrl + blue arrow?

*) I see many people here saying "Fn" for blue arrow. While that may seem obvious, it's not very accurate. An Fn key usually doesn't create its own keycode/sym while the blue arrow key creates ISO_Level3_Shift which usually translates to "Alt Gr" (the right Alt key on qwertz keyboards.
I'm not trying to be a wisenheimer, I'd just prefer the Alt Gr label but it makes no sense if I'm the only one who uses this term. If there is any official Nokia reference that calls this key Fn I'd be fine with that label too. I just don't want Fn and ISO_Level3_Shift to be confused since it makes a big difference when binding actions to that key.

btw:
More than 20 years ago when I was a little boy I very much enjoyed a boulder dash clone that is also available as a Debian package and gives me nostalgic feelings since I've discovered that package. ;)
It's called xdigger. Unfortunately it's only available in Lenny and Sid, but the package hasn't changed for over a decade and it has virtually no dependencies so the release doesn't matter.
Of course I tried it on my N900. Unfortunately it's not playable via debbie (although it starts) but if one loads the complete Easy Debian desktop and starts the game with the parameters -noblink (saves lots of CPU cycles) and -vert240 (adjusts resolution/aspect ratio) it runs great.
Movement is self explaining via cursors, a game is started by pressing "p". One quits the game with "q". Restarting a level usually works via "Esc". If you don't have that mapped in Easy Debian "Ctrl" + "b" will work too.

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Nice catch about fn and alt, Sulu. Yea, I also noticed it's right alt equivalent, ho ever, it seems term fn is a little settled here. No big deal, wrong habits are correctable ;)

As for 4th row, it's Alt Gr + shift. Basically, it works no matter of sequence (shift + Alt Gr is ok), but sometimes, it may be tricky to bind. for example, I was not able to use lvl4 space for tab, but using lvl3 space for it and lvl4 space for @ works great.

Lately, I've noticed that when I run something via debbie, my Maemo modified layout is respected - ho ever, with LXDE it's half-screwed, half-ignored (for example, special characters invoked by lvl4 key result in that character being written upercase, no matte what - apparently, shift and lvl4 is registered simultaneously and independently from each other). It seems, that it should be re-written also for ED (via .xbindkeysrc), cloning Maemo settings (with addition of things like right click).

/Estel

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When in LXDE I was pretty happy with my key definitions using .xbindkeysrc. I then tried to make rx-51 based key definitions consistent with those I had made in .xbindkeysrc but in some cases I couldn't. For example I never could successfully modify rx-51 to make a ^ character even though I could in .xbindkeysrc (I mapped it to shift + blue arrow). Anyone have any luck creating a similar defintion but using rx-51? If so how do you do it?