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Hello everybody,

first of all thank you for wounderful work, it is amazing!

But I have a question about these two binaries:

I would like to use the keyboard-focus-hack with xbindkeys completely on maemo because I have an application that runs on maemo quite well but has this keyboard-focus issue.
I can install xbindkeys in maemo as well, but when I use the two commands I copied from the chroot, I get this errors:

Would it be possible to compile it for maemo as well or is there another workarround possible?

Thanks in advance!

CU Michael

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I too would love to have it compiled for maemo
I currently use
with easy debian installed, it will fix focus but symbol keys are different.
I'm not talented lke the people here so I don't know how to fix this but I too used easy debian's keyboardfix for maemo apps and it works (except symbol keys). A maemo version would be great.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66215

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The best solution would be to have the source code of these programs under an OSI approved license I think. This way everybody could recompile them on any platform.
During my tinkering with ED for the Squeeze dist-upgrade I stumbled upon set-focus too but I couldn't find any source code.

The XServer itself is MIT-licensed and since I'm pretty sure set-focus is compiled against some of its libs I guess the same license might be a good choice. WTFPL might also be an alternative.

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Sorry guys for not checking this thread.
Those tiny apps have their source code in a thread on TMO.
I just checked my Garage git repo and it doesn't have the source! Shame on me!
I'll try to get you the source as soon as possible!

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Hi qole, You know, when I put my N9 in landscape I can imagine a nice little bluetooth keyboard underneath and easy debian on the screen.
Wish it could happen...

Regardless I want the thank all contributors for your efforts. You have made using Easy Debian a great experience. It still makes the N900 unique and, indeed, it's still irreplaceable for me.

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I too long for Easy Debian on the N9(50). But I am blocked by the lack of an open kernel. Good news, though, it looks like the hacker-dudes are getting closer and closer to a usable kernel. Follow the roller-coaster over at forum.meego.com and watch joergw's open kernel page for progress, too.

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I've tried "complete dist-upgrade to Squeeze" as in EasyDebian wiki:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian
Ho ever, despite following every step carefully, I still got few problems after update. I'll list all oddities - even that I think some of them aren't important, I'll keep them for the records, as it may help in debugging. Also, sorry in advance for possible obvious mistakes - this whole thing about what should and what should not work in chroot under Maemo is still kinda black magic for me.

1. After step "nice -n 19 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", I get following errors:
2. Despite following 2nd critical fix from wiki:
...I still can't use any "blue arrow" symbol from N900 keyboard (regular and SHIFT'ed letter, arrows, enter, backspace etc all works). Furthermore, if I keep
...in my /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart (like I did before dist-upgrade), I can invoke my language special characters using blue arrow (so, it works literally as AltGr - right alt...). It has added benefit of availability to use USB/Bluetooth keyboard via extkbd in Easy Debian without any hassle - ho ever, the con is that I can't use any "blue arrow" symbol from N900 internal keyboard ;)

3. While trying to restore sound functionality in ED via method described in Wiki:
... I get following errors (pasting full output, to not skip something important):
I think this may be related to errors I've got trying to do dist-upgrade.

4. Upon every start, Iceweasel throws irritating warning:
http://lorienart.pl/cover/iceweasel1.jpg

(after cliking details)
...still, every configuration option in Iceweasel seems to be preserved (I haven't lost my config, opened tabs or whatever).

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As you may presume, I'm totally lost here, so I'll be very thankful for any suggestions. Keyboard problem seem to be most important (for me), followed by failed things during update&pulseaudio restoration.

/Estel

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All these dbus-related errors seem strange. :confused:

However, when I did the dist-upgrade I didn't do it exactly the way I described it in the wiki, I did it via debbie but thought that wouldn't matter.

So can you please try the following:
[Edit: forget step 1. The debbie command in step 2 will do the same anyway. Just make sure the Easy Debian desktop is not running.]
1. Ensure that the Easy Debian chroot is mounted but no Easy Debian X-session is running (e.g. by starting Easy Debian, closing the window but then NOT running the close-script or by running some trivial command via debbie).

2. After changing your sources.list and creating the temporary archives-directory run the whole dist-upgrade process via debbie from within Maemo:I think that sorts out the most of your problems. I'm not sure about wicd since I don't have it installed anymore but I thhink it should be solved too this way.

As for your keyboard problem I don't really know what's going on but I hope that's just a side effect of the strange state that the failed dist-upgrade produced. Although I'm from Germany I use the US layout on my N900, so any localization-related problems didn't occur to me. But I'll investigate on that if it turns out not to be related to the failed dist-upgrade.

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Thanks You very much for fast answer. I'll try that method - in meantime, just to let You know, I haven't used dist-upgrade from within LXDE - I just used "chroot" icon from Maemo (which, following qole's description, should work same way as "debbie").

Of course, I'll gladly test doing that from within maemo with "debbie", instead.

/Estel

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I had a closer look at the errors now and I guess I'll have to be absolutely honest now about what I did to upgrade to Squeeze since easy standard steps don't seem to work. :rolleyes:

Because the watchdog always rebooted my N900 during dist-upgrade attempts I first upgraded small chunks of packages (30-50MB download size) via debbie aptitude.
When I realized that nice could keep the watchdog calm and switched to that procedure half of my Easy Debian was already upgraded (yes I had lots of time that day ;) ). The whole X-server related stuff and probably even Easy Debian's dbus was a part of these chunks.

No idea if that will solve the problem but I think it's worth a try to manually upgrade dbus first. I can't even exclude that I upgraded pulseaudio from within the Easy Debian desktop (which might affect the dist-upgrade since Easy Debian's dbus is actually running) since I did a lot of tinkering with pulseaudio back then.

If that still doesn't work I'll try to reproduce the dist-upgrade with a stock Easy Debian installation while keeping the procedure as simply as possible and documenting the steps exactly.
But most likely I won't find the time for that before x-mas.

As for your firefox warning, I get that too. Eventually I just uninstalled the package that caused the popup (the commandline output still remains). Since it seems to work except for that warning I didn't investigate it any further. I'll add that to the regression list in the wiki article once I've identified the package again.