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Estel 2011-12-31 11:51
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Could anyone give me a hint, how to bind Alt (*not AltGr, aka right alt) to some N900 keys, using .xbindkeysrc or rx-51 (hardware keyboard remapping)?

I have finally found ideal* solution for N900 browser replacement - of course using Easy Debian, but running it directly under Maemo. The answer is *fanfares* Chromium! *not* a Chrome - that i would not touch using long stick, but lovely Chromium, that is blazing fast on N900 (using ED on dedicated ext4 partition)- mainly due to much lower memory usage - and using some tweaks, it's perfectly optimized for our touch experience. I've enabled 'dragging' method of scrolling pages, without sacrificing selecting text (or, particularly, any full-fledged browser feature), got 100% working spell checker and Lazarus form recovery, and it's fully working with extensions.

The last thing I need to make it 100% convenient for usage, is having working alt somewhere (for back/forward usage - now it requires 4 additional clicks to enable arrows, use it, and another 4 to disable). Everything else is working as it should, so with much relief, I kicked iceweasel out of device. I'll happily release set of tweaks needed to make it touch-friendly, after settling this last issue.

Unfortunately, every instruction I found google'ing, cover using alt as modifier, *not* binding it o some other real keys.

Thanks in advance

/Estel

qole 2012-01-05 06:03
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Oh and just for fun, a very NOT easy Debian:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7020/6...bbe83936_b.jpg

don_falcone 2012-01-05 08:01
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1143851)
Could anyone give me a hint, how to bind Alt (*not AltGr, aka right alt) to some N900 keys, using .xbindkeysrc or rx-51 (hardware keyboard remapping)?

I have finally found ideal* solution for N900 browser replacement - of course using Easy Debian, but running it directly under Maemo. The answer is *fanfares* Chromium! *not* a Chrome - that i would not touch using long stick, but lovely Chromium, that is blazing fast on N900 (using ED on dedicated ext4 partition)- mainly due to much lower memory usage - and using some tweaks, it's perfectly optimized for our touch experience. I've enabled 'dragging' method of scrolling pages, without sacrificing selecting text (or, particularly, any full-fledged browser feature), got 100% working spell checker and Lazarus form recovery, and it's fully working with extensions.

The last thing I need to make it 100% convenient for usage, is having working alt somewhere (for back/forward usage - now it requires 4 additional clicks to enable arrows, use it, and another 4 to disable). Everything else is working as it should, so with much relief, I kicked iceweasel out of device. I'll happily release set of tweaks needed to make it touch-friendly, after settling this last issue.

Unfortunately, every instruction I found google'ing, cover using alt as modifier, *not* binding it o some other real keys.

Thanks in advance

/Estel
Isn't Xmodmap feasible? I do all my keyboard remappings with it.

Boemien 2012-01-05 08:13
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Hi All, I would like to know how to uninstall an application by chroot(under Maemo terminal). For example, I have installed lmms ans I want to uninstall it as it's to heavy and too slow.
Thanks in advance.

Estel 2012-01-05 08:21
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 1146000)
Oh and just for fun, a very NOT easy Debian:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7020/6...bbe83936_b.jpg
Considering what a crap a capacitive screen is, it's probably epic hunt to click any small button, even with voodoo capacitive styluses? ;)

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As for image - of course sulu's image is great base, but as I mentioned in my former posts, I've managed to replace OpenOffice with squeeze LibreOffice (which isn't trivial for many users, as it required manual dependency solving) and Iceweasel got kicked out, preparing room for N900-wise tweaked Chromium (which may be also non-trivial to less able users, as it require downloading extensions manually, extracting it, and loading from directory via developer mode), which is much more usable as everyday browser on our device (effective and much less resource-hungry, especially RAM-wise)

I know that all manual steps aren't rocket science, and writing them properly in wiki should allow even the least tech savvy people to benefit, but, it's also quite time consuming - so, You may consider uploading already tweaked image, to make users life easier ;)

If that's what You feel fancy, I can upload my image today or tomorrow (is tar.lzma of use for You? it would be much less data to transfer, and You can unpack it into dedicated partition, then snapshot proper ED image from it. Of course, if it's too much hassle, I can backup it using other method as well).

/Estel

ivgalvez 2012-01-05 09:01
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1146026)
Considering what a crap a capacitive screen is, it's probably epic hunt to click any small button, even with voodoo capacitive styluses? ;)

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As for image - of course sulu's image is great base, but as I mentioned in my former posts, I've managed to replace OpenOffice with squeeze LibreOffice (which isn't trivial for many users, as it required manual dependency solving) and Iceweasel got kicked out, preparing room for N900-wise tweaked Chromium (which may be also non-trivial to less able users, as it require downloading extensions manually, extracting it, and loading from directory via developer mode), which is much more usable as everyday browser on our device (effective and much less resource-hungry, especially RAM-wise)

I know that all manual steps aren't rocket science, and writing them properly in wiki should allow even the least tech savvy people to benefit, but, it's also quite time consuming - so, You may consider uploading already tweaked image, to make users life easier ;)

If that's what You feel fancy, I can upload my image today or tomorrow (is tar.lzma of use for You? it would be much less data to transfer, and You can unpack it into dedicated partition, then snapshot proper ED image from it. Of course, if it's too much hassle, I can backup it using other method as well).

/Estel
Your own tweaked image will be highly appreciated.

pedsarjon 2012-01-05 09:57
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
hi qole glad to meet you

you can make easynitdroid with nitdroid e-yes

like easydebian with a chroot?:)

uros 2012-01-05 13:54
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
How to make screenshoot in easy-debian running

guilledoc 2012-01-05 18:24
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 1146036)
Your own tweaked image will be highly appreciated.
The same here and with a new browser great!!!

Estel 2012-01-05 18:31
Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sulu (Post 1139152)
Apart from the obvious changes in the package selection it also contains the patched xserver-xephyr from squeeze-backports
Sulu, is it server-xephyr package, that gets installed during apt-get upgrade with squeeze-backports repository enabled, or some specifically modified one? If the latter is true, what's the nature and purpose of modification?

Quote:
Originally Posted by sulu (Post 1139152)
btw:
What's the point of having contrib and non-free in our sources.list? According to vrms [3] there are only packages from main in Easy Debian.
Qole, any comment on this? I would like to correct /apt/sources.list before uploading tar.gz of my ED partition. It's minor thing, but why prepare unnecessary "possible corrections" to feed up wiki page ;)

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I've also come across minor issue, that I would like to hammer before uploading image. When running libreoffice from terminal, via 'debbie libreoffice', It got stuck on first logo, and following errors appear in terminal:
Code:
[Java framework] Error in function createSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).
javaldx failed!
Warning: failed to read path from javaldx
I18N: Operating system doesn't support locale ""
(message about locale is probably unrelated). Ho ever, everything works fine, when using Debian chroot shortcut (i.e. chroot with root access). So, it seems to be privileges-related glitch - any ideas?

/Estel


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