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Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

silly me, I just realized sulu posted TWO pieces. Trying again!

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Is the chroot image unmounted automatically when I power off my n900? (hint: do I need to write an upstart job to?).

Also, Estel, mate, buddy, can you gove some rough pointers as to what you have done to put the chroot in it's own partition on the emmc? I already know the ins/outs of partitions I want to know what scripts you have changed etc?

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@qole
Sorry for being little impatient, but would You carry to read my post (just before Your last one) and answer question, aimed directly @ You?

Also, in my other posts in last few pages of this thread, I've asked You many times about some OpenOffice-specific parts in debian(izing) scripts of ED:

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Originally Posted by Estel

BTW, examining /sbin/debian (from 'sudo debian'), I see bunch of code lines, related specifically to OpenOffice (not only in comments, things called directly in code got OpenOffice in names). qole, any comment on these? Is it just obsolete, or should we modify it to suit LibreOffice?

If you could find some break time from Harmattan'ing, we here on Maemo Squeeze ED would very appreciate Your answer ;) Thanks in advance.

BTW - qole, when creating .img.ext<whatever> image of ED partition - no matter if using Sulu's one or mine - consider making it 3GB, instead of 2GB. Having 3Gb partition, I *never* encountered out of space errors during 'apt-get upgrade'. Heck, even dist-upgrade wasn't causing it (so using 3GB partition, there is no need to temporally relocating apt download location).

@vi_
Edit /home/user/.chroot, changing the following commands (things after # are my commands, don't put it into actual config file):

Code:

IMGFILE=/dev/mmcblk0p4 # or other partition, depending on where it's sitting

IMGFS=ext4 # or any other ext You're using - not sure if it's needed, when dealing with real partition, but I've changed it anyway

TMPSIZE=30M # as I use 3GB ED partition, I decided to use more ammount of space for swap

/Estel

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

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Originally Posted by sulu (Post 1139152)

btw:
What's the point of having contrib and non-free in our sources.list? According to vrms [3] there are only packages from main in Easy Debian.

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Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1146249)

Qole, any comment on this? I would like to correct /apt/sources.list before uploading tar.gz of my ED partition. It's minor thing, but why prepare unnecessary "possible corrections" to feed up wiki page ;)

I don't know? For completeness' sake? It doesn't seem to be hurting anything, does it?

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Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1146249)

I've also come across minor issue, that I would like to hammer before uploading image. When running libreoffice from terminal, via 'debbie libreoffice', It got stuck on first logo, and following errors appear in terminal:

Code:

[Java framework] Error in function createSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).

javaldx failed! 

Warning: failed to read path from javaldx

I18N: Operating system doesn't support locale ""

(message about locale is probably unrelated). Ho ever, everything works fine, when using Debian chroot shortcut (i.e. chroot with root access). So, it seems to be privileges-related glitch - any ideas?

Yes, after running things as root instead of user, you probably have root ownership on some config files in your /home/user directory now, you need to "chown user:users" them back again.

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Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1146801)

Also, in my other posts in last few pages of this thread, I've asked You many times about some OpenOffice-specific parts in debian(izing) scripts of ED:

<snip nasty bit>

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel

I don't know if it is obsolete or not. Is it? Has LibreOffice changed the environment variables?

I don't use LibreOffice. What does it have over OpenOffice?

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 1146944)

I don't use LibreOffice. What does it have over OpenOffice?

It's free and open ;) more open that is.

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Sulu's image is available from qole.org/files and as a choice on the image installer on your N900.

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 1146987)

Sulu's image is available from qole.org/files and as a choice on the image installer on your N900.

mr qole, how i can chroot that ubuntu file on ur website??, http://qole.org/files/
i wanna learn linux, and i love my n900, its the best ever, :)

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 1146944)

I don't use LibreOffice. What does it have over OpenOffice?

Well, OpenOffice is obsolete (not sure if officially - probably, they've changed their mind about discounting it, but it was announced some time ago), and LibreOffice is both code, contributors, and ideologically-wise continuation of OpenOffice. LibreOffice started after Oracle actively presented their hostility against FOSS at all, and autocratic (as opposed to meritocratic) stance on accepting/declining OpenOffice code contributions.

Long Story short, 99,99% of active OpenOffice code contributors started "fork", and things like GoOO also headed in this direction. freed of limitations from bounds with DamnBigCompany (sounds familiar? ;) ), LibreOffice development got epic momentum and it's flourishing.

Trivia: LibreOffice was meant to be temporary name, but Oracle refused to grant name to newly formed foundation.
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All after all, i strongly recommend every OO user upgrading to LibreOffice.

/Estel

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

@ibrakalifa extract the Ubuntu image and put it on your SD card or in MyDocs, then edit /home/user/.chroot to point to the Ubuntu image.

If you didn't understand what I just wrote, I would strongly recommend you use the "main" Debian image for learning Linux.

@fw190 @Estel : I was hoping you would give me technical reasons why LibreOffice is superior. If there are only political reasons why LibreOffice is better for the N900, then I think that it isn't worth the headaches of migrating for most Easy Debian users.