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juiceme 2019-06-24 16:15

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemish (Post 1558010)
I just read a bit about kernel 5.1 and the advantages of it. Maemo Leste is 5.0 I believe. In 5.1 there was some mention of ability to use persistent flash memory as ram. Does anybody know better and could it give any new possibilities with N900 (like more ram somehow)? I really don't understand that stuff but just spotted the news.

Well yes and no :)

The new memory mode is designed to be used with a fast persistent memory and emmc is not really that fast to use... the erase cycle actually makes it extremely slow...

So it might be possible but it'd slow down your device to glacial speeds :eek:

mike727 2019-06-24 23:13

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1558036)
...emmc is not really that fast to use... the erase cycle actually makes it extremely slow...

Naive question: I guess the same can be said for the uSD ?

endsormeans 2019-06-24 23:37

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
No question is naive ...
Either it is :
A- an honest valid question.
B- A ridiculously hilarious question.
Or
C- outright dumb one.

Yours and Maemish's question is an honest valid one.

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In the most rudimentary of parallels to keep it as close to home as possible...
think of it like the n8x0's that have 128 mb of ram WITH the ability to give a tiny bit of oomph with up to an additional 128 mb of ram from allocating "virtual memory" to it.
It helps some ..sure.
"allocating" can help a bit..
can help a lot even...
But it only helps with processes and progs which normally would handle an expected load from the device in question
For example...
You can't run world of warcraft (I do not play ...I like more high brow like Neverwinter nights) on a pentium I ....no matter how much virtual fictitious ram you manage to allocate. (along with a plethora of other valid reasons as well)
BUT ...the processes and progs that would normally be able to run on the pentium I (perhaps even a few borderline slower heavier ones too)..you could run a few more of at the same time...or they would be a bit snappier ...
But that would be the extent of your ability..

In short.. nothing takes the place of dedicated ram

So if one were hoping to double or triple or whatever ...their ram in such a way...
you can fake out the system only so far...
but when process(es) or progs which are beyond the ability for the system to handle normally, need "actual" serious ram to run and look to the availability to utilize it...
It won't be pretty as your device tries its best to accommodate and does this in your hand instead

https://media.giphy.com/media/6we45Lecki2ME/giphy.gif


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(calls it like I sees it...personally I aim for B or C...A is stultifying -ly boring....since it is predictable and has usually been asked 1000 x before...so ask something way out there...may have a "eureka!" come of it...like a battery mod using electricity from potatoes ...way out there..outright hilarious and borderline dumb / mad...but it would probably work...just need a lot of potatoes or one giant potato hooked up to it...BTW- We REALLY need this mod...For years we have had the super smart solving issues ...and we are now hitting the brick walls...its time to bring in the mad and crazy folks to break through those walls with their ingenious ideas and pulpy bodies ...and solve the unsolvable ...)

Wizzup_ 2019-08-13 17:09

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Just a teaser...

Nokia N900:

https://wizzup.org/leste-n900-cellular-v0.1.png

QEMU AMD64 VM with USB passthrough modem:

https://wizzup.org/leste-cellular-op...-name-home.png

Maemish 2019-08-13 19:58

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Would so much like to read an update. Have there been yet phone calls made with ofono? And other news too about leste. In their page their talked of monthly news but I think that wasn't reasonable idea. So much to do. Would just love that they would get it done, there would be an updated linux system.

Wizzup_ 2019-08-14 20:43

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemish (Post 1559056)
Would so much like to read an update. Have there been yet phone calls made with ofono? And other news too about leste. In their page their talked of monthly news but I think that wasn't reasonable idea. So much to do. Would just love that they would get it done, there would be an updated linux system.

Trying to get one written. Been very busy, hopefully one or two more days.

More teasers (yes, it's not well integrated.):

https://wizzup.org/leste-sms-telepathy-ring-1.png

endsormeans 2019-08-14 23:45

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
You're doing God's work ...my good man.

I should know...
He told me so yesterday....

Of course our conversation had absolutely nothing to do with the fact I have been sleep deprived and chocolate high'd for 3 days straight...

Wizzup_ 2019-08-24 12:53

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Update post time!

https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-...gust-2019.html

Maemish 2019-08-24 16:56

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
Thank you! And thank you for putting time to give this detailed and thorough update. To hear the amount of work you have done and how much work it requires is eye opening. I will try to think a way to contribute to the project.

teroyk 2019-08-25 20:11

Re: Maemo-Leste pre-alpha announcement
 
This makes me to buy Motorola Droid 4 to run Maemo, it seems that it run SailfishOS too, so my only guestion is can I run both in same phone, just switching in boot?


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