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thanks for the link-i leave solarwolf on anyway for my kids

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Yes, that is the version I use but I was thinking something to do directly from the application manager without having to manually download anything (or browsing around with the tablet)
I dont think anyone should be foreced to know that .deb exists just for launching a clock.
My bad for having choose a library and a language that is not already installed with the OS :(.
I suppose I could prepare a simple web page optimized for the tablet with some biga** buttons with all the .deb dependencies but still, having a 'metapackag' that can be find directly from the application manager for python2.5+pygame+pygtk+pyhildon (and maybe with a list of applications already in the offical repository in the description) could be easier.
Thank you for the link anyway, alternative solutions never hurts anyone :)

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I think you should just add that link to your first post, then just say install this, then Flip Clock. Seems like the best solution :)

BTW, I don't think I've said it yet: great job on the whole project. I like watching how it progresses :)

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Yep, I just updated the 1st post with the link. Yes the point is to show every step: this system really helped me, sped up the evolution and gave me some directions.
...and of course being cheer up is a great feeling :D

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Awesome work Ciro, glad to see that you got the code rolled in there and working without issues. If you're looking for help with any other functionality just let me know (I don't mind reading through your code ;o) ).

As for the dependencies, it's trivial, you just need to get your app to the point where you want to do an "actual release" (gotta be getting close eh!), then just make sure you follow the steps of getting it up into the "extras" or "Extras-devel" repositories. If you do that, then as part of your deb you can just make pygame/etc as dependencies, and they'll automatically be pulled in.

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just wondering -if you set the alarm does it work with the tablet switched off-in other words could it turn the unit on and go to flipclock directly-that feature could have all sorts of home automation uses via wireless

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I know the time I spent on the graphic (beside the taste) tricks a bit:
the code behind this kind of apps is really nothing special but im ready to stretch it a bit to bend in something different :)

For the real answer: by now the clock does not trig any alarm when the tablet is off. For this beaviour *we* should find a reliable way to use the alarmd (u can look back a couple of pages in this thread where someone pointed out the advantages and disadvantages).
The clock now just compare the alarmset strings with the time read from the tablet each minute:
flipclock running ->alarms works
flipclock non running -> alarms doesn't works
no day/week/month scheduling
no multiple alarms (but I could easily make working all 7 alarms or let the user enable and disable each single alarm or make fixed time alarms like !ring in 5 minutes or !ring in 10 minutes)
and yes, since is the application that take care of the alarm is possible to trigger every kind of events (examples: start an external player, an application, or pretty everything python can manage aka pretty everything the tablet can mange :) ).

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I've been the one poking around with the alarmd stuff for the flipclock here the most (well, sure seems like that way by the number of posts I've put up discussing why it would be advantageous to use!), but I'm curious as to what you're thinking of in terms of "all sorts of home automation uses via wireless"...
Anyways, going to keep on beating up alarmd for a bit and see if I can't come up with a nice little module for Ciro to throw into the flipclock to get it all up and going...

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It seem we are not alone looking to the holy alarmd grail:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/list...5853?page=last
Ill have to take a look at that /var/lib/alarmd/alarm_queue.xml
but I would feel really nervous to mess with any OS config file.
Ill check the Gene Cash app that should already access that.

Back in the early 2000s I checked some domotica (italian word for HA) [EXPANSIVE] tools from siemens: they created their own protocol running of a 4 wires bus if I remeber correctly: it was a mess :).
More recently I saw some relatively cheap ethernet module but they are hardly accessible for me in Italy: I saw US are really more advanced and HA is more 'mainstream' but their remote are ugly as hell :).
I think someone studied something running with the XBMC on the modded xbox1.
Mixing real ethernet cabling with ethernet over power and wireless should be possible to solve any kind of 'logistic' problem.
I suppose a lot of beverly hills houses already have a pretty heavy integration with an huge portable remote again scary ugly
http://img.archiexpo.com/images_ae/p...tem-110300.jpg
Being the geek I am I would begin to just have control of all the variables I can receive from the house before before even try to begin to control things.
Thermostats programing, air conditioning, power consume of single appliaces, internet status, garage doors status, etc.
I would hate to have any automatism that overtake over my wills that decide to close the blinds while Im enjoying watching the rain.
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I just find this site (they already integrate that apple thing but it seem they didnt realize that could be use like a great remote)
http://www.control4.com/

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In terms of general Home Automation, oh yea I'm all over it already; I use my N800 to control lights, MythTV box/music, alarm (intrusion) system, phone system, etc. I even have it at the point that when I pull up the driveway the AP in my Jeep associates with my house and sends some signals causing the outside lights to turn on/etc.

It's not that difficult to do these things, especially with great linux-based devices like N8x0, embedded routers/small devices, etc. You just need to have some coding understandings and be willing to spend money. For example, I use Insteon light switches, which are absolutely awesome in terms of what you can do/how they look/etc, but they cost like $50-60 CDN each (some of the other techs like Z-Wave etc are twice that price), so you have to be prepared to spend some money. The easiest road for a straight up solution from my understanding is something like Linux Media Center, which offers things like orbiters for N8x0, etc... I just like to roll my own stuff so I have more control over how it works and the cool things I can make it do ;o)
(It's all about the little things too... my girlfriend is still amazed every time we sit down to watch a movie and the lights automatically dim as the movie starts!)