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Texrat 2009-11-25 04:40

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jjx (Post 390543)
It could also be the RAM is too full and it's swapping. We haven't been told how many other apps it's running, or what their memory usage is.

Right, which is actually my main point and sorry for any red herrings (by interference I meant wifi but as you point out that's an unlikely contributor). Too many unknowns to make any determination.

Texrat 2009-11-25 04:41

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davetech (Post 390546)
No lock please. They'll stop, they promise. A stern warning should do. ;)

I'm curious to find out if others will experience similar issues, along with any remedies if available.

This thread is too inflammatory, by virtue of title alone, to be of any serious troubleshooting value IMO.

davetech 2009-11-25 04:43

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Can't the title just be changed then?

How about "N900, could be better, should be better - YMMV"?

Rushmore 2009-11-25 04:44

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Does not make sense. Droid has slightly higher res and scrolls far smoother than the N900 on the same pages in these vids. Since both have the same chipset, it must either be the browser or there is something hogging resources on Mega's N900. He shut Flash off, so that is not the problem.

I will do tests when I get my N900 tomorrow.... wait- KY plays on TV, so there might be a delay;)

sadfist 2009-11-25 04:55

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
I'd just like to point out that while Megacrazy is exaggerating how bad the browser/scrolling issue is, everyone who is arguing with him is exaggerating how good the browser/scrolling is. It's pretty easy to get slowdown, especially with the performance of the mail client and media player.

Face it, the N900 is basically a retail boxed prototype. It's got rough edges. It will improve, the community is awesome. I just hope I won't have to get an N1000 to get a lot of these things people take for granted fixed :-D

Megacrazy 2009-11-25 05:04

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Just to satisfy everyone, the phone has been flashed. The behavior is unchanged. It's just what it is.

It wasn't running any apps when the videos were made.

Anyway, I think I've accomplished what I set out to do with this thread and that was to demonstrate that Nokia has added another unpolished product to their collection. I hope they will learn from their mistakes and continue developing the N900 (which I love) and not jump to another product in 3 months that will be just as unpolished. Apple has shown that it is all about software and sticking with something that works and bringing it to an end.

On the other hand, you guys need to stop generating excuses for Nokia such as "it's version 4 of 5, great effort Maemo team, it will be better with updates etc etc...". Keep in mind that the people who developed this product were paid to work and you and I owe them nothing. On the contrary, they owe us 600$ worth of product that they (IMO) did not fully deliver.

I will be around and follow all the developments of cool apps for the N900 (even if the scrolling sucks) and enjoy the phone for some time to come. Do not kid yourselves though, this product falls short of the iPhone and the Droid (which also just came out) bigtime. It is unfair to average users to sweep problems under the carpet. Admitting a problem is the first step to solving it.

Texrat 2009-11-25 05:06

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Megacrazy (Post 390564)
Admitting a problem is the first step to solving it.

Ok, that's it. No more irony for you young man. That exceeds the threshold. :p

Devil 2009-11-25 05:06

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
texrat, what if im scared just a little bit about the negative commentary's?

buy it or not?

see... my problem is.. i don't see other alternatives. n900 is best ATM

but i am not on the road that much.
could just as well save up for a nice very portable laptop.
i'm at home/university. so... 11 inch sony vaio hmm come here baby :rolleyes:

Texrat 2009-11-25 05:07

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil (Post 390570)
texrat, what if im scared just a little bit about the negative commentary's?

buy it or not?

see... my problem is.. i don't see other alternatives. n900 is best ATM

but i am not on the road that much.
could just as well save up for a nice very portable laptop.
i'm at home/university. so... 11 inch sony vaio hmm come here baby :rolleyes:

Is leasing an option for you? :D

kyle 2009-11-25 05:28

Re: N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 
Megacrazy, have you tried increasing the memory cache setting to 40 mb and then doing the same test? It seems quite a bit better to me after I did that- I still see the checkered pattern occasionally, but it seems to go away in just a fraction of a second.

It makes sense that this would be the case, because the engadget homepage is big and must take up a lot of memory in rendered form. Increasing the cache size means that it has to do a lot less rerendering. There is also an "automatic" setting that I haven't tried yet.

Of course, some other smartphones that don't do true multitasking can afford to always use the maximum amount of memory available. ;)


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