Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

just open the bug and you can see the target milestone and you can see there. i checked couple of bugs and it all marked as PR 1.2.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

Because they all marked as fixed in PR1.2

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

it does say 1.2 milestone LOL :D

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

Because I marked them as such, and I would never ever lie. :D

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

Maybe some background here from the bugmaster's point of view:

A few months ago, I started using a generic Target Milestone in Bugzilla called "5.0/+" and set this Milestone plus the status RESOLVED FIXED for reports that "will be fixed in the next update of Maemo5" (at that time).

However, Nokia surprisingly started releases like PR1.0.1 (1.2009.44-1) or PR1.1.1 (3.2010.02-8) that only contained some cherry-picked fixes which not only surprised me and made the assumption that I had written ("will be fixed in the next update of Maemo5") a lie, unfortunately. So I started writing "Will be fixed in the a future update (not necessarily the next one)".

However, that sucks too of course. So today I set at least those reports for which I absolutely know that they will be included in the future PR1.2 update to an explicit Target Milestone called "5.0/(PR1.2)".

This does NOT mean that this "Fixes in PR1.2" list is complete yet.
It's just those fixed issues that I'm sure of so far as they were fixed two weeks ago or earlier, as Nokia in the past always had 2 or 3 weeks between packaging the update internally and releasing that update for public. Those 2 or 3 weeks are used for testing, verification etc - you know, bureaucracy is slow.

Plus it also makes it easier for Nokians in maemo.org Bugzilla to set realistical Target Milestones. A bit less frustration for everybody, hopefully.

Hope that helps a bit in understanding.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

...and as a shameless plug for the maemo.org Bugsquad: There is a Bugday tomorrow, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...242#post560242 . Say Hello on IRC if you want to. :-)

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

Sorry for you, but I actually prise Nokia for doing it. PR1.0.1 and PR1.1 were actually a RELIABILITY fixes and it's delay could harm not only Nokia public image but it's customers too. For exam, I considered the question "stay with N900 or not" depending from Nokia fix of "random crash" bug even I had no this problem. It was fixed and the rest is just nuisance (sorry again for you).

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

Well, me too. I never said that those releases were unneeded or something, they just surprised me when it came to my workflow. :)

(I think we all agree (hence nothing to discuss) that we want Nokia to publish updates more often or in the long run switch to package based updates that could happen every day like any other Linux Desktop distro, instead of huge updates only every few weeks or months...)

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

Actually, I think it may be not very good idea - often releases for general public. Other Linux distros are actually for geeks besides some very conservative (like Slackware). And minimizing the number of upgrades by packing multiple fixes is not bad idea too.

But I can suggest an early release of bug fixes to people who has interest in it. That would dramatically increase a tester base and improve the quality PLUS improve the customer morale.

That is a "has interest in it" - it is a matter of different approaches. One exam - anybody who vote for bug (plus bug reporter).

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

http://maemo.org/community/brainstor..._packages-002/ ?