Re: Cleaning N900 FUD
 

This ? :

Maemo Official Platform Bug Jar 2010.10

As of 2010-03-08 Maemo Official Platform contains 3166 items (+34 this week), including 696 open issues (-6 this week):

* 498 open bugs (no change this week)
o 28 critical/blocker (no change this week)
o 7 "easyfix" (+1 this week)
o 110 "moreinfo" (+1 this week)
o 25 "crash" (-1 this week)
o 21 "patch" (+2 this week)
o 17 reopened (-1 this week)
o 169 unconfirmed (-5 this week)
* 198 open enhancements (-6 this week)
o 1 "easyfix" (no change this week)
o 7 "moreinfo" (-1 this week)
o 4 "patch" (no change this week)
o 8 reopened (no change this week)
o 32 unconfirmed (-4 this week)

I tried to include this information in the wiki yesterday but, frankly, I got lost in all the numbers.

Re: Cleaning N900 FUD
 

Great idea !

Re: Cleaning N900 FUD
 

@qgil,

Thanks for the heads up, I am now more anxious than ever for PR1.2 and Harmattan alpha SDK releases. Not just for the fixes/improvements, but exactly for the clarification of future plans for N900, just hope the news will be detailed enough for clearing all the uncertainty and not lead to further FUD, although as you said before "customers always want to know more"... so a little uncertainty will always exist since there are pessimistic people all around!! :p

About the Ovi Maps, I've asked about it on blog.ovi.com and your colleague @Niini from Nokia has confirmed that the responsible team is working on turn-by-turn navigation for N900. Here is the link:

http://blog.ovi.com/2010/03/02/new-p...bile/#comments

I also got a similar answer by email from Nokia USA Customer Care channel. If that is true it would be good to include on the Wiki and certainly would remove a lot of FUD from customers missing navigation apps. Can you please check internally?

Re: Cleaning N900 FUD
 

wohoo i actually got a reply from post abt maps. now i feel i should have asked if they include portrait mode for maps :D

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The admin for meego.org is surely having a laugh with the current home page... :eek:

Not sure what that would achieve, other than more confusion and change for the sake of change.

Make a decision, stick with it. The future is meego.com. :)

Without wishing to be nasty, it's impossible to read about the Cascade of Attention-Deficit Teenagers software development model and not think of Maemo! ;)

I'm hopeful that the involvement of Intel and LF will help Nokia break the "v0.8, v0.8, v0.8" cycle that has been evident until now. :)

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It seems some Chinese guy was faster than Nokia and Intel.... I was wondering why they decided to go with .COM domain instead of .ORG, but I thought they registered both domains.... Beginner mistake from two mega companies, unless "meego" means something in chinese:

WHOIS information for meego.org :

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Domain ID:D154592597-LROR
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Re: Cleaning N900 FUD
 

Well to be fair, it does appear to have been created (registered?) as far back as November 2008, so unless Nokia or Intel have access to a time machine it's not likely they could have done much about this other than offer to buy the domain (which is presumably what they did with meego.com as this domain has been registered since February 1999), but obviously the .org domain owner asked for more than Nokia/Intel were prepared to pay.

Since he's now stuck up a home page with text that could lead the (very) unwary into thinking it may be an official meego web site (as there is no evidence that the site is not associated with Nokia, Intel, Linux Foundation or even MeeGo) I'd say he's starting to swim in dangerous waters and it might be time to unleash the legal attack dogs or claim make a claim for squatting.

That said, changing the domain name for the MeeGo project so soon after announcing meego.com would be idiotic, but somehow fitting and in keeping with Maemo tradition. :)

Re: Cleaning N900 FUD
 

Nope, this:

+ this:

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You're right, but it is a shame they couldn't take the domain back....

[Off-Topic] Here at Brazil we have many juridical problems, but at least for Internet Domains politicians created a law that allow for a company take back the related domain if it is proved that the person who registered is not even using it and the purpose was just to sell it. Sure it might take years to conclude the process... but that's another story...[/Off-Topic]

Re: Cleaning N900 FUD
 

Hi Qgil....I'm reading the thread right now...so I hope this is not already post by someone else...but I would like to say something now.

Ok...Nokia has told that N900 was more a "Mobile computer" than a phone....but Nokia cannot sell a device for 599€ with all the limitations that N900 has and pretend that many people doesn't complain about these !
I bought the N900 in november 09 but I couldn't still use it as my primary phone because of bugs and problems with Mail For Exchange /Calendar.
I use the smarthphone mainly for business and need to sync the mails, contacts, calendar and tasks with our company Exchange 2003 SP2 server.
This is still not possible because of several small bugs (like this one of recurring events: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7971 )

I think that for an "mobile computer" these features are crucial and I would have expected as top class:
- email
- standard business apps (like Office viewer and edit SW)
- good PIM functions and compatibility with open standard and de-facto std (like Outlook, Exchange, etc)
- decent navigator SW
and I could go on in many aspects...

Instead these points are the weakest in N900/Maemo 5! Apart from excellent internet browsing all the other aspects are poor implemented or there are present only the basic features.
Modest is really...."modest" email client ! Calendar apps is the most basic I ever seen (quite similar to a very old symbian under 100 € phone) etc etc.

The absurd is that we have better multimedia features (decent camera with flash, very good movie playback etc) than business ones !

I really apreciate some of Nokia guys (like Vitaly) and you that are present and usually reply to us in this forums, but I need also reasonable answer from Nokia in terms of support and visible action.

I understand that to re-write everything (OVi Maps, the phone app etc) for Linux require some time but then Nokia should have not
sell this device as a top class device of 599€ but give it for at least less than half that price and clearly state that is a "beta" device.
Nothing of this is made clear in these pages:
http://www.nokia.co.uk/find-products...specifications
(I put the Uk ones...not the italian ones just to be english text).
No specification that MFE didn't work with Exchange 2003 (only after PR 1.1 and not completely), that Ovi Maps were only basic and not at thee same level of symbian etc etc.

I REALLY hope that PR 1.2 will address to some of these big problems and let me start using the N900 as a primary work phone and not only as a very expensive useless hobby device.

Moreover I just let you know that many Italian users I know have already sold their N900 due to all these delays in implementing such basic features and most important because Nokia is not showing real committment to support this platform, with all of this FUD and no clear path with Meego/Maemo 6 evolution.

Perhaps I should make like them, sell N900 buy an Android or Iphone device that has thousand od apps NOW and are feature complete NOW and then , after a year or so eventually come back.
But I would like not to loose many Euros since I just bought the N900 few month ago and I love the open-source attitude and the HW device is really nice !

But the world is running everyday faster and the competion is fierce...Please give us some clear arguments to keep me on Maemo platform and N900 device.

Greets from Italy,
SkyEagle