Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 

Nah, it's more like inspired by MeeGo.

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 

It is. Harmattan is based on deb-packages and -database, Meego software, updates, apps comes from rpm-repositories. That is the main reason Linux Foundation and Intel won't let N950 to be called Meego-device, because in fact it is not Meego-device and Meego updates won't be as user-friendly applicable as they should.

Seems like Nokia's Meego-people are not familiar enough with LSB-standard rpm-system, so Harmattan still after one year doesn't have support of this Meego-requirement.

Yet another example where Linux fragmentation is a real problem and consequences can be huge; like Nokia falling in the hands of Microsoft and major open source supporter is lost, MS won this again. I blame Debian and its stubbornness for not changing from deb to rpm-system. It is just an ego thing with deb-people, because rpm-system is undeniably technically better (transactions, embedded GPG-signatures which follow even if you transfer/install software package via usb-stick, ftp, wget, bluetooth-obex). Debian (and Ubuntu) would make a big appreciated favor to Linux-community by making this deb->rpm-change.

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 

Are you trying to start WW3?

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 

Nope. I let the facts talk, like in science and technology they should. I am ready to discuss (in an another thread) if someone claims transaction support in software package management is not a technical plus or that having widely used GPG-signatures embedded in the package is not in practice better than having them detached.

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 

Usually Fridays are good but today I feeling all negative, dont buy this unless you can get all the features you want have tested yourself whether Nokia or No-nokia

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 

i will buy N950!!! there is nothing other than N950 FOR ME!

keep it up MeeGo dudes!! see u in the other side

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 

My N900 is five quarters old now, which in phone years means 125 years old. The N950 is by any standards, too late. In this early adaptors market, a phone generation is 12 months at worst, probably more like 6 months, and many Maemo phone owners would be lusting for a replacement since before christmas 2010. Not going to mention the feelings of Maemo tablet owners.

For me personally it seems I will not be able to wait for it, even if I wanted to. My N900 is not doing so well since it took a bath last week. Lost bluetooth and WiFi.

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 

I seriously doubt the debian choice to not go with rpm is ego related.

When I compare my years of fedora use vs similiar period with ubuntu, all I ever got in fedora/rpm was unresolved dependancies when installing packages. So much so I usually just built everything from source. I cannot say the same for Ubuntu, I can't remember the last time I had a dependancy problem with Ubuntu.

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 

I'm using Fedora since FC3, and the only time I had unresolved dependencies was because of the proprietary nvidia drivers was not yet ready, with a new kernel update.
And that only happens because the proprietary stuff comes from a third party repository.

Re: N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 

I bet, your experiences were before RpmFusion. I haven't had dependency problems in years with Fedora.

What do you think the reason of the debian's choice is then, if not stubbornness? Ignorance? Rebellioness? Secret co-operation with Microsoft to keep Linux fragmented?