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Oblomow 2011-04-16 12:57

Re: camera-ui2 [icon designer needed] [developer needed] (updated 27.03.) (source included)
 
Dear Nicolai,

first, thank you for your great work! I just installed the cssu and realised that they've made your program the default camera app. This is just great, I played with it already before and liked it a lot! May I nevertheless make some remarks/propositions?;-)

- the autofocus lag seems to be ca. 0.5s longer than with the stock camera, it looks like nothing happens during this period (no lens moving, buttons do not disappear). In landscape modus with fixed focus also the buttons disappear immediately after half-pressing the shutter. I have fcamera & blessn900 installed, maybe related to that?

- I use the exposure correction a lot, and while it's quite useable (apart from the manual iso bug, but that's probably only fixable by Nokia) I have two propositions: first, show the actually used ev correction in the viewfinder, and second, would it be possible to (optionally) map the zoom buttons to ev correction? Digital zoom is quite useless for many people, while ev correction is not, esp. with small, low-dynamic sensors.

- would it be possible to pause tracker when going to video mode and enable it afterwards again? It seems to have some share in video stuttering due to instant indexing.

Oh, and one last thing: showing the focus distance is simply brilliant, great idea!

Greets
Christian

geohsia 2011-04-16 13:53

Re: camera-ui2 [icon designer needed] [developer needed] (updated 27.03.) (source included)
 
Hi Nicolai,
I've gone ahead and used my GPS program / Lightroom to create a DNG file with embedded time and GPS info. I don't know if it's of any use at all. If it is, here you go:

https://www.yousendit.com/download/V...NnkzMWxjR0E9PQ

If not, feel free to ignore. A few other things:

a) Would it be possible to write the file without the '.jpg' in the file name. It just looks weird in explorer because Windows 7 hides the extension and in this case it looks like a jpg. It's not a bit deal, just annoying.
b) Also, can you change the RAW indicator to be RAW + JPG which is what it is in actuality and also add a RAW only option. If that means we won't have image review I feel like that is a fair tradeoff.


Thanks for your consideration.

santiago 2011-04-16 14:23

Re: camera-ui2 [icon designer needed] [developer needed] (updated 27.03.) (source included)
 
i have a question:
i made some icon pack for your camera UI it works with your camera UI and with the standard N900 camera UI. Do u want to include the icons in the bin or do you want to include icons with a separated pack? becouse i dont wanna lose my work.. i shared it here in the talk, and if u include the icons in a bin we are not able to change/modify the UI as we like.. :(

nicolai 2011-04-16 18:33

Re: camera-ui2 [icon designer needed] [developer needed] (updated 27.03.) (source included)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblomow (Post 989816)
- the autofocus lag seems to be ca. 0.5s longer than with the stock camera, it looks like nothing happens during this period (no lens moving, buttons do not disappear).

I will make some tests with shorter delays.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblomow (Post 989816)
Digital zoom is quite useless for many people, while ev correction is not, esp. with small, low-dynamic sensors.

I don't think that many users using ev correction.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblomow (Post 989816)
- would it be possible to pause tracker when going to video mode and enable it afterwards again?

Yes, I was looking for that too, but I don't know how to
stop the tracker process.

Nicolai

nicolai 2011-04-16 18:36

Re: camera-ui2 [icon designer needed] [developer needed] (updated 27.03.) (source included)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 989865)
Hi Nicolai,
I've gone ahead and used my GPS program / Lightroom to create a DNG file with embedded time and GPS info. I don't know if it's of any use at all. If it is, here you go:

https://www.yousendit.com/download/V...NnkzMWxjR0E9PQ

If not, feel free to ignore. A few other things:

a) Would it be possible to write the file without the '.jpg' in the file name. It just looks weird in explorer because Windows 7 hides the extension and in this case it looks like a jpg. It's not a bit deal, just annoying.

Yes, it was simpler to just append the raw extension, but you
are right it isn't a good way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 989865)
b) Also, can you change the RAW indicator to be RAW + JPG which is what it is in actuality and also add a RAW only option. If that means we won't have image review I feel like that is a fair tradeoff.

I don't have a direct control over the jpg-file. As soon as I capture
a image, the jpg file is saved by the camera-api. So, only Raw
isn't possible.

Nicolai

nicolai 2011-04-16 18:38

Re: camera-ui2 [icon designer needed] [developer needed] (updated 27.03.) (source included)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by santiago (Post 989884)
i have a question:
i made some icon pack for your camera UI it works with your camera UI and with the standard N900 camera UI. Do u want to include the icons in the bin or do you want to include icons with a separated pack? becouse i dont wanna lose my work.. i shared it here in the talk, and if u include the icons in a bin we are not able to change/modify the UI as we like.. :(

I will include only new icons, those that aren't already apart of the stock camera-ui.

Nicolai

Oblomow 2011-04-17 00:42

Re: camera-ui2 [icon designer needed] [developer needed] (updated 27.03.) (source included)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolai (Post 990045)
I will make some tests with shorter delays.

Thanks a lot!

Quote:


I don't think that many users using ev correction.

Hmm.. I think it's quite essential, all DSLR and most compacts have direct access to exposure correction by dedicated buttons, even my old SE k770 phone had mapped it directly to hardware keys. It's extremely useful in back light conditions when you have the sun in front of you, and fast access is critical here (Nokia got this unbelievably wrong with their Symbian touch phones..). Maybe a simpler method than using the volumme keys would be putting two shortcuts on the keyboard (+0.5/-0.5ev), and an indicator on the display if it's != 0?
Quote:


Yes, I was looking for that too, but I don't know how to
stop the tracker process.

I've played a bit around with it, and so far I have found two ways to accomplish this:

1)
Code:

tracker-processes --terminate
to stop tracker and
Code:

/usr/lib/tracker/trackerd &
to start it again. It's what tracker-cfg uses to restart tracker, but does not empty the database. Seems to work reliable & should be safe. Disadvantage: After restarting, tracker-indexer is active for quite some time (several minutes), eating away some 2% of cpu time on my system. That's a bit strange, as it should not rebuild the database.

2)
Code:

killall -STOP trackerd
killall -CONT trackerd

to stop/continue the trackerd task. Seems to work well when trackerd is the only tracker task active, in my test it was inactive while filming and immediately started to index after unsuspending it with the CONT signal. When it's already indexing stuff things get more complicated, as other task like tracker-indexer, tracker-extract, gst-video-thumbnailerd appear. So
Code:


killall -STOP/-CONT trackerd tracker-indexer tracker-extract gst-video-thumbnailerd

seems work (just gives an error when a task is not found, but suspends/unsuspends the other tasks, alternatively one could use the output of tracker-processes), but I am not sure if this does not have any unwanted side effects (data corruption etc). Maybe there´s someone more knowledgeable about this here?

Greets
Christian

somedude 2011-04-17 02:29

Re: camera-ui2 [icon designer needed] [developer needed] (updated 27.03.) (source included)
 
Hey Nicolai,
Just wondering if we could add this feature to the camera app????
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=38275

That way we have a new great feature for the camera and the GUI to go with it.
Is this do-able????

anidel 2011-04-17 04:53

Re: camera-ui2 [icon designer needed] [developer needed] (updated 27.03.) (source included)
 
Suggestion: would a live histogram while composing a picture, be too complicate to implement?

sony123 2011-04-17 05:18

Re: camera-ui2 [icon designer needed] [developer needed] (updated 27.03.) (source included)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolai (Post 990045)
I don't think that many users using ev correction.

Well, I would like to have ev, too. I use it constantly, setting it to -0.5 because I think the default exposure is too bright to my liking.


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