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mikecomputing 2013-10-01 19:47

Re: Official specs of Jolla phone surface
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1377967)
Until 2 weeks ago, my main PC was a laptop with 1GB RAM. The only reason for an upgrade was that I ran out of disk space and could not buy a bigger IDE disk to fit in it. I have never used swap and never felt like 1GB was not enough. So all this talk about 2GB - or even 1GB - on what is by design a secondary device at best being "not enough" or "mid range" sounds like a mindless rant to me.

Finally some good point at TMO. Best comment for long. Couldn't resist to even link it on twitter :)

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Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 1378020)
There is some rumours / speculation about Rovio making Angry Birds other half in one finnish paper.

http://www.iltasanomat.fi/digi/art-1288604858538.html

Rovio gives the usual "No comment" comment, ie. not denying or confirming.

I take that for granted. Finish company not supporting Jolla phones would be EPIC FAIL

kollin 2013-10-01 21:43

Re: Official specs of Jolla phone surface
 
Is it possible to transfer battery charge through i2c interface?
I want a spare battery as "Other half". :confused:

biatch0 2013-10-01 23:41

Re: Official specs of Jolla phone surface
 
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Originally Posted by tanago (Post 1377976)
True story, some colleagues call me to reinstall/repair their PCs and some of them have 256 or 512 MB RAM PCs AND they have never complained about RAM. I dont understand what is that complaining about 1 GB RAM on a MOBILE DEVICE. What will you do on it? Play GTA V? Use Pinnacle Studio? Maybe Photoshop RAW images?

NO, Im sure you cant do those things that really need LOTS of RAM. Android needs such device because of its memory leaks, bad optimization, blah blah... Just hope for a good OS, if so 1 GB will be completely enough for it. Forget about 2GB & quad/hexa-core on a mobile device

Agree with this... but... at the same time... I wouldn't complain if Sailfish had good optimization, good memory management BUT still launched with 3GB RAM and a quad core CPU. Would you? :D *nerdgasm*

Mikkosssss 2013-10-02 04:05

Re: Official specs of Jolla phone surface
 
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Originally Posted by kollin (Post 1378101)
Is it possible to transfer battery charge through i2c interface?
I want a spare battery as "Other half". :confused:

You dont need to. Theres battery in and out for other half

herdem09 2013-10-02 04:49

Re: Official specs of Jolla phone surface
 
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Originally Posted by kollin (Post 1378101)
Is it possible to transfer battery charge through i2c interface?
I want a spare battery as "Other half". :confused:

On the jolla page it says extension interface for power in/out. You may not get other half battery as a separate additional battery but you can get a new battery with higher capacity and change it with another one. The power input/output can be used for OHs like solar charger.

Normally I2C only has 2 data lines. Some products has also gnd and vcc pins in addition to data. For example wii nunchuck and motion plus has 4 pins (gnd, sda, scl, vcc). We will see if jolla gathered them in one socket or multiple.

Mentalist Traceur 2013-10-02 05:33

Re: Official specs of Jolla phone surface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1377967)
Until 2 weeks ago, my main PC was a laptop with 1GB RAM. The only reason for an upgrade was that I ran out of disk space and could not buy a bigger IDE disk to fit in it. I have never used swap and never felt like 1GB was not enough. So all this talk about 2GB - or even 1GB - on what is by design a secondary device at best being "not enough" or "mid range" sounds like a mindless rant to me.

I like the majority of your post, but I take issue with that "secondary" device comment (especially since you appended 'at best' to that). There's no fundamental reason in modern times why one's mobile phone couldn't be a/the primary device in their life, and it is this thinking that they're automatically secondary or worse that leads to so many limitations in modern mobile devices, methinks.

My N900 is my primary device in many respects, and if it weren't for the lack of sufficiently up to date browser, a modern office suite (I'm talking like the entire LibreOffice, not just the code text/spreadsheet/presentation editing that passes for mobile office suites nowadays), it would be my primary device, period.

As an aside with RAM though - I am no stranger to low RAM devices, and often I too would express the same sentiment as you, but I will say, when I recently got upgraded from a 3GB RAM computer to an 8GB RAM computer (as well as similar jumps in specs across the board), it does make a pretty noticeable difference for my use cases. It's subtle and minor, but it pervades everything in a way that adds up. So while I too look at people decrying 1 GB of RAM on a mobile device as too low and facepalm at it, the benefits it can bring are definitely sufficient that I wouldn't call it 'mindless ranting' for just that.

Daneel 2013-10-02 07:45

Re: Official specs of Jolla phone surface
 
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Originally Posted by biatch0 (Post 1378108)
Agree with this... but... at the same time... I wouldn't complain if Sailfish had good optimization, good memory management BUT still launched with 3GB RAM and a quad core CPU. Would you? :D *nerdgasm*

I would, since it would drain the battery in no time.

Rauha 2013-10-02 08:04

Re: Official specs of Jolla phone surface
 
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Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur (Post 1378135)
So while I too look at people decrying 1 GB of RAM on a mobile device as too low and facepalm at it, the benefits it can bring are definitely sufficient that I wouldn't call it 'mindless ranting' for just that.

Agree

+ Jolla has really been selling the whole 'Multitasks better than no other mobile, true multitasking', etc thingy. That's my main fear about the 1gb. It might be enough, its possible, but if its not, then they have cripled one of the main selling points of their platform.

Also happens to be one of the main things why I want Jolla phone. But no problem if they have sorted out the software so well, that 1gb won't hinder multitasking.

gerbick 2013-10-02 08:16

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My only fear about the 1gb is how will ACL respect that because those apps are normally bloated and that's without adding in the actual process for compatibility.

MeeGo was crazy efficient. So I can assume that SailfishOS is as well. But 1gb, true multi-tasking + Android compatibility is where my concern for the 1gb of RAM comes in.

We'll see though. I'm still hopeful.

Rauha 2013-10-02 09:13

Re: Official specs of Jolla phone surface
 
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Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1378024)
angry birds is an old game

Thats like saying that Mickey Mouse is an old comic.

Rovio has turned it into the 2nd biggest license platform on the planet. Only Disney pushes more crap (toys, candy, whatever) than Rovio does. Its hugely popular and way beyond being just an old game.

I don't care about Angry Birds products either, but Rovio is huge and getting them on the sail boat would be a huge opportunity for Jolla. It alone would get them extra sales and - even more importantly - other big boys might follow Rovio's lead.


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