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kuba77 2017-05-26 21:46

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1528439)
I have the solution for you as well: Xposed Edge

With this app, I can use my Android device the SAME as I use my Sailfish device.
Swiping from the sides gets me to the home, swiping up the app drawer, and swiping down closes the running app.

No, you can't, probably. Dialog page with text fields/inputs, comboboxes and then swipe to confirm/save instead of hit button on Android, pulldown/pullup menu...

adithyakhamithkar 2017-05-27 03:26

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)
 
I head that Sony is discontinuing the Xperia X series.

How this is going to effect us?

BluesLee 2017-05-27 05:41

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)
 
Honestly, Sonys naming convention irritates me.

Just to know what you are talking about: The primary focus is on the device Sony Xperia X aka F5121 and F5122 for the dual sim one?

P@t 2017-05-27 06:13

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1528434)
I've been using a Sony Xperia XA for about a month now, let me tell you something:

1. Updates <-- Use any custom rom if updates are not coming anymore
2. No privacy harmed <-- Use XPrivacy
3. Not crammed with bloatware: choose what you want (fair) <-- Root, and you can uninstall everything you want
4. Root access <-- You can root Android devices as well
5. Where are the advertisements? <-- Root, and you can remove all ads, even inside apps.
6. Not willing to pay a company's 70% profitmargin for harming your privacy, cramming it with bloatware and adds. <-- See all the points above.
7 (possible) android support through Alien Dalvik. <-- Native Android support, instead of half working dalvik.


I'm actually pretty happy with my rooted Sony XA.

In a sense, of course that Android is quite ok ... when you spend a 'certain' amount of time to install a rom, plus some apps to change the way Android is supposed to work
But what about the future... Do you think this is enough to change the market ? I am quite convinced that all the failures of BB, Ubuntu, FFOS... are due to all those 'nice' people focusing on Android instead and making it free enough for their taste.

But will it remain possible to install a rom or the magic app that you are happy to play with... That is not quite clear. While if you spend your money and your energy on alternative platforms, that helps to improve the possibilities in the future.

For the moment, buying Android, whatever you do with your device, is supporting Google and their vision of the world. And they are quite winning ;-)

pexi 2017-05-27 06:53

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1528439)
I have the solution for you as well: Xposed Edge

With this app, I can use my Android device the SAME as I use my Sailfish device.
Swiping from the sides gets me to the home, swiping up the app drawer, and swiping down closes the running app.

You cannot turn Windows into Linux by making it look like Linux, and vice versa.

Sailfish OS is a full blown Linux operating system and almost everything you've learned by using Linux servers or desktops is applicable to SFOS: cron, scripting, crypting, tunneling etc. Comparing SFOS to Android is like comparing a computer operating system to an application.

LouisDK 2017-05-27 07:05

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 1528461)
Honestly, Sonys naming convention irritates me.

Just to know what you are talking about: The primary focus is on the device Sony Xperia X aka F5121 and F5122 for the dual sim one?

For now they'll focus on the single sim model aka. F5121.

pichlo 2017-05-27 07:38

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1528439)
With this app, I can use my Android device the SAME as I use my Sailfish device.
Swiping from the sides gets me to the home, swiping up the app drawer, and swiping down closes the running app.

Seeing someone equating the UI with the OS makes me feel sad :(

lantern 2017-05-27 07:41

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisDK (Post 1528464)
For now they'll focus on the single sim model aka. F5121.

How do you know that?

HtheB 2017-05-27 08:15

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1528449)
But does it have python, nodejs, make & autotools & gcc on it?
The other day last week I needed nmap so I just cloned it from github and compiled on the device...

Nmap?
https://secwiki.org/w/Nmap/Android

Python?
http://qpython.com/

Building and running Node.js?
http://www.goland.org/nodejsonandroid/

gcc?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sho....php?t=1645182

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuba77 (Post 1528453)
No, you can't, probably. Dialog page with text fields/inputs, comboboxes and then swipe to confirm/save instead of hit button on Android, pulldown/pullup menu...

Yeah, sadly that's true.

Quote:

Originally Posted by P@t (Post 1528462)
In a sense, of course that Android is quite ok ... when you spend a 'certain' amount of time to install a rom, plus some apps to change the way Android is supposed to work

Ironically, I've spend more time to make Sailfish OS work properly (Patchmanager) than I did with Android.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1528467)
Seeing someone equating the UI with the OS makes me feel sad :(

I was referring to the 'swiping' thing like the N9 and Sailfish OS (going to apps and swiping it away)

eson 2017-05-27 09:20

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1528449)
I needed nmap so I just cloned it from github and compiled on the device...

Exactly how did you do that? I can't get the commands right. I'm stuck on...
Code:

[root@Sailfish nmap]# make install
make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.

Edit:
Forget about it. Command should be[
Code:

pkcon make install
Edit 2:
Nope, pkcon didn't work.


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