Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Yes, please do so.
This is something your provider needs to check/clarify. Just insist to get connected to a technician or request a callback.

Can you receive MMSs from those users that do not get yours?

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

I am guessing this could be one of two possibilities now:

1. Tmobile issue (with their network/my settings on their end) getting in contact with them today
2. Fmms issue (uses mms 1.0, perhaps not supported by the other providers? most use 1.2)

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

I can, I get theirs but they dont get mine

Edit: Went through two escalations, looks like I will get to talk to a network tech next

Edit2: Ok so the tech had me send an mms to his number (att) and as expected he didn't receive it, but he got the exact time it was sent from my number to his and the network techs will try and see where the issue is. They said I will get a call back in 24-72 hours

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Good, thanks.

Your second guess could be right, but unbelievable/annoying/customer-unfriendly as there are still millions of devices out only capable of v1.0.(not able to receive anymore but sending should work)! But who knows ...
If so I guess the fix in fMMS would be to set the version number from 1.0 to 1.2 and done, as there are only add-ons and no general changes afaik. So one more reason I do not understand why your MMS can not be delivered.

Let us wait for the feedback ...

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

*if* thats all that's needed, maybe just build your own test version and give it a shot.

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Worth a shot.

swordfish, edit the file
/opt/fmms/message.py
as root and change line #40 from
'MMS-Version' : '1.0'
to
'MMS-Version' : '1.1' or 1.2

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

I have not heard back from tmobile yet, and I am working today so if I don't hear from them I will call tomorrow (I have my ticket number).

I'll make the change and test tonight, thank you

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

I'm very interested in what you can find out, since I see the exact same behaviour.

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

OK Tested the 'MMS-Version' : '1.1' or 1.2

No joy.

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Okay. :(

Then we will have to wait for your provider to hopefully have digged deep enough and can deliver some info.
Possibly one more (additional) header item required? But which one? [for incoming I could find the missing one, see 'fix fmms thread') but for outgoing it is quote hard/impossible. Or is it the same item?
Or something completely different? Dark and foggy here...

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

I know nothing about MMS but to see outgoing headers, can't you just send it to yourself and then check the incoming message? Or do they get mangled along the way? Just a silly idea to throw in the ring... ;)

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

So I got a call back on Friday, I was on my way out so I couldn't really talk but they said the network techs sent the ticket back and said the issue was solved.

I tested it and it is still broken.

Saturday I re-imaged my phone fully with stock vanilla optfs and rootfs and only installed fmms (1.3.6-1) with the correct settings.

Still did not work.

I love my N900 with openarena, doom, fm transmitter, tv remote, and Cleven...but this may be a deal-breaker, I share way too many pictures with friends and family.

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Typical answer. Go into the next round/iteration.
Insist that your prob is NOT solved. And you like to get technical details why your MMSs do not get delivered.

If we find out we may solve it, if it is related to fMMS.


Do you have another (dumb) phone?
Could you try to test/send with this one, of course with your N900 SIM ?
Then we would know for sure it is related to network...

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Quick reply...

Can you go to a mobile phone store, say "I want to test if this XYZ phone is capable of sending MMS", insert your SIM into it, and try sending MMS: one to TMobile number (should work, since it works from N900), another to non-TMobile number (if it does not work, it's TMobile problem; if it does work, it is fMMS problem). If it does work, ask the receiver to send you complete contents (headers and such) of receiver MMS, so that fMMS developers could try to get fMMS to work.

Best wishes. Thank you.
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Per aspera ad astra...

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

I have an original Samsung Galaxy S, would that use the same protocals as fmms? Would the SIM card fit in it? If so I can give that a try.

Oh I also have a Razor, if the sim fits that might be a better tester. I will be at work for the next 24 hours but will look into it tomorrow

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

I would go for the Razr. The older the better. But no harm done by trying out both.

[OT]I wish I had not gotten rid of my old (pre-MMS era) Motorola phone. There are things it could do that none of my newer phones (Treo 600, some Samsung Android, N900, N9 and Jolla) can. Neither can two different old "dumb" Nokias borrowed from friends.[/OT]

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

So bad news, tried sending an MMS from my Original Galaxy S (with the SIM from the N900) to one of the people that couldn't get MMS from the N900. They received it, so it must be an fMMS issue.

I looked at the APN settings on the SGS and they looked the same as the ones used on my N900. (Although it did list IPv4, and I remember that the N900 may use IPv6)

Let me know what info you guys would like me to get from the MMS that was received or any other info that would help

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Too bad :(
What I would need is raw formatted MMS (impossible to fetch from Galaxy?)

But just seen that when you typed it that way it could not work.
I meant either 1.1 or 1.2, not both ORed.

And even stranger: it was the wrong file :(
Above is commented python code.

Correct one to test is:
/opt/fmms/mms/mms_pdu.py
line 861
change to
or
Sorry.
Really hope that helps, else ...

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Yes when I tested it I only used one at a time "or" was never in the statement.

I will try with the right file this time

Edit: My Galaxy is rooted, so there may be a way to obtain the raw MMS

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Quick reply...

/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db, apparently in SQLite format.
Source.

Best wishes. Thank you.

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Ok so editing the file did not work.

I can dig into the SQlite and see what I can come up with, I will also see if any of the Devs at XDA may have the MMS headers

Is there any other reason I am missing that could cause this issue?

Brief recap for any newcomers:

I can receive all MMS

I can only send MMS to tmobile users (my network) all others do not receive my MMS

My SIM and MMS work perfectly in an old Samsung Vibrant (Original Galaxy S), sending and receiving from all cell users

Tech support at tmobile say everything looks right on their network

ZedThou is also seeing this same issue.

Edit: Posted to XDA here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gene...d-mms-t2997180

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Would have been too easy :(

Which MMS protocol version does the Galaxy use?
And maybe that is true. On their network.
So you, or your friend(s), should raise this issue with network techstaff of the other provider(s)! As it looks like the MMS get lost there.

What about a cross-test?
Exchange SIM with your friend and send with any device (your SIM) to your N900 (friend's SIM).

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

I can certainly try the cross test

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

At best with the 'oldest' device you can find.
MMS protocol v1.0!

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

No luck on the cross test, cant find a tester that has a normal sim card (non-micro) to swap with

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Quick reply...

Doesn't N900 use micro-SIM card? :confused:
Ah, N900 uses mini-SIM, and everybody else around you uses micro-SIM?
There isn't much difference between them. Does any of micro-SIM users have a "mini-SIM bracket"?

Best wishes.
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Per aspera ad astra...

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

N900 uses normal sim, not the "mini" one. Brackets should help with both micr-sim and mini-sim users. Contacts are the same.

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

I think that N900 uses mini-SIM. Full-size SIM is 85.60mmx53.98mm. Mini-SIM is 25mmx15mm. Micro-SIM is 15mmx12mm. Nano-SIM is 12.30mmx8.80mm, and thinner.
And yes, contacts are exactly the same.

Thank you. Best wishes.

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Thanks, I stand corrected. Funny enough, some local names (e.g. most operators in Poland) have it shifted, by not considering full-sized SIM existence, and starting with miniSIM as full-sized SIM (with the micro- becoming mini-, and so goes on). I think it may explain why people were confused upon your suggestion to find someone with mini-sim.

/Estel

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

It's an easy mistake to make. Most mobile phone users (and sellers!) are not old enough to remember full-size SIMs. I had only one full-size SIM phone. That was a loooong time ago. It sucked big time. Battery life <12 hours. Only receive SMS, not send. Good riddance.

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Wut?
That is like mixing fixed definitions (house vs mice or a bed is a pillow or ...). Unbelievable!

And: I never had a full-sized SIM phone (started with S4/2110).

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Have had some family issues so I have been unable to test. I am contemplating hiring a programmer (I know some but this is beyond my scope) provided it is reasonable, to update fmms for the good of the community.

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Since I don't know a whole lot about MMS protocols and the seperate data connections, but still want a way to send mms, for a temp fix I am developing a set of 3 python scripts.

When opened the "MMS Sender" Script will utilize smtplib to login to my gmail. It will seek user input of a name which it plugs into a contacts script and return all the contact info for the contact.

The user then enters the phone number which is run through the provider script and http://www.freecarrierlookup.com/
to return the MMS provider email.

This email is then plugged into an smtp email, the attachment selected and the email/MMS sent.

So in theory MMS can still be sent with only a couple steps to the user. Currently I have the contacts search done, and a good portion of the smtp/email script done

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Nice approach.

But what about pestering provider of receivers why your MMS does not get delivered?
If you provide them answer of your provider that everything is sent out they should react and check on their side.
Possibly you may also aks your friend(s) to do so either.

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

I can try...but I'm not sure I will make much progress. I will pursue it, but you know how providers can be, I have no doubt it will turn into a blame war between the two.

If anyone else is interested I should have the scripts ready in a week or so and can provide them to others for improvement/modification.

It will also likely contain 4 scripts:
mms will open smtp and call all the others
contacts will lookup/return contact info
provider will lookup mms email and import it to smtp
attach will call the file explorer for the picture/file and import to smtp

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

it appears fmms is now fully broken on tmobile. all incoming mms say (push) and don't retreive.

this may be the end for my N900

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

You got latest revision from devel repo, right?
That one has a "logger" in case the incoming MMS cannot be decoded. Please have a read a few pages back (sorry, of course in the newer FIX thread) and see if you can retrieve that raw MMS.

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

I can confirm Swordfish II's comment, as of February 24 I can no longer download MMS messages. They come through ok in the push folder but it hangs and fails when retrieving the message :(

Here's the full log dump after loading fMMS and then attempting to retrieve a message from 2/27:

http://pastie.org/pastes/9989551/tex...decy6hb5wqlqaq

I tried connecting directly to http://snq2mosget.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc and received a 501, however that could be any number of issues/missing headers that I don't have time now to test.

My hunch is that T-Mobile killed support for this, shut the machines down, or just have a server error that no one has noticed or fixed.

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Reads as timeout, no access to given URls.
First guess is they changed settings for MMS retrieval. Did you check latest settings with provider (speaking about fMMS or fAPN settings)? proxy, msc, ...

Re: [Announce] fMMS - MMS on the N900
 

Does it happens only to me that every mms received fails with "impossible to retrieve" even if in the .fmms/mms/XXXXX/ folder are present all the message parts perfectly downloaded and decoded?