maemo.org - Talk - The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Neat. I think I still like the FastSMSEvo keyboard better, but with this working, at least people don't have to go diving into extras-devel just to use portrait mode.

In my mind, the N900 is not functionally portrait-mode complete. Aesthetically, though, task switcher and desktops have got to be rotatable. Which, at this point, I suspect, will come soon.

In the meantime, I have a certain suggestion for people using the z-axis rotation, regarding some transitions.ini tweeks that make it look more natural: A, if you have equal times for the first half and the second half of the rotation, setting degrees to 45 is far more normal looking. However, if you want the entire rotation to be smooth though, without the 'damage event blanking to black' that happens in the middle, then: B, decrease the rotation time of one of the rotations to 0, and, optionally, increase the second one to compensate, while setting the rotation angle back to the default 90. What this results in, is that the 'damage' event will happen either at the very end, or the very beginning, and so the 'jerkiness' will happen before/after any actual visible animation, so the animation ends up looking rather noticeably smoother than the normal config using z-axis rotation. Still jerky, but far less so.

That said, it's obviously not really nearly as appealing on the x/y axis rotation version, since it just looks unnatural then, but for z-axis it looks better, I think.

manavs

2011-02-23 08:50

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

For performance, if you set rotate angle, rotate in and rotate out to 0 the switch between landscape to portrait is amost instant. Faster if you have overclocked.

tomchiverton

2011-02-23 08:53

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

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Originally Posted by rishabsp (Post 953404)

can anyone tell me what is z-axis rotation,and is no blur patch included in cssu because I didnt got it on mine N900

Have you turned the features on ?

http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features

droll

2011-02-23 08:53

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bug?

1. device in pocket
2. remove device, screen is dark
3. open keyboard
4. wait 1 second
5. quickly close keyboard
6. the screen stays lit

before i applied the SSU, the screen would go back to being turned off in step #6. however, if i wait a bit longer in step #4 (like 3-5 seconds), it will stay lit in step #6.

poleepkwa

2011-02-23 08:54

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Does anyone else have problems with Nokia messaging?
Mine is not fetching any mail and sometimes Modest crashes.

IceJunior

2011-02-23 09:02

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Everything is working fine so far. Big thanks to the CSSU team!

Jaffa

2011-02-23 09:07

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Originally Posted by rrdbala (Post 953277)

This is a dream which came true by the community .!!! Portrait for N900!!!! which NOKIA cannot provide us for 2 years ....

This is not proper "portrait for N900" and many apps will have problems (including built-in ones and those designed for the system to respect the "this program supports portrait" flags).

The point of forcerotation is to make it easier to identify the apps which are:

Closed source but work well. A "white-list" will be developed and included in a future CSSU so that these rotate out-of-the-box.
Open source but work well. These will have the appropriate flags added to their source in the git repos.
Open source but nearly work. These will have the appropriate flags and changes added to their source in the git repos.

Therefore, unless an app falls into one of the above categories, please do not raise bugs in the CSSU.

Jaffa

2011-02-23 09:08

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

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Originally Posted by debjitbis08 (Post 953354)

To support viewing sms conversations in portrait mode without horizontal scrolling, I modified the MessagingWidgetsSMSConversation.css file. This is not complete but surely works.
I also modified the Chat conversation css for similar purposes.

These files go here: /usr/share/rtcom-messaging-ui/html/

Could you raise a bug suggesting they get included in the CSSU? An additional project (since Conversations is closed source, IIRC) which uses dpkg-divert.

tomchiverton

2011-02-23 09:13

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

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Originally Posted by Dark_Angel85 (Post 953365)

probably include this in a merge so that it can be in future cssu updates? better right?

I created https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11976 for you

ivgalvez

2011-02-23 09:21

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Andrew, just one question.

In the Bugzilla, under Community SSU product, I can see that the only application is Modest (the other components are related to Hildon Desktop an general system).

Is there any work in progress to improve any of the other default applications?

I have seen that there are also some fixes from Nokia and the community that are still not applied (I can't remember exactly but I think there were some for PDF Viewer for example).

Maybe it could be a good idea to include in the CSSU Wiki page a section indicating the status of stock applications. Something like:

- Application A
Is it open source? If so, link to git repo.
If not, is anybody working on an open replacement? (let's try not to start several projects around the same app).

For example, I know MAG started working on a replacement for Media Player but I can't even find if the Image Viewer application is closed source or not.

Carlito

2011-02-23 09:22

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

would like to see mediaplayer portrait. Is this possible with css? Just tell me how and I will give it a try...

Jaffa

2011-02-23 09:30

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlito (Post 953435)

would like to see mediaplayer portrait. Is this possible with css? Just tell me how and I will give it a try...

No. However Open Media Player (in development) supports portrait, and is a wholesale open-source reproduction of the closed Media Player.

Jaffa

2011-02-23 09:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 953434)

In the Bugzilla, under Community SSU product, I can see that the only application is Modest (the other components are related to Hildon Desktop an general system).

HAM is now included (see http://gitorious.org/community-ssu). There should be a component in Bugzilla per entry in the CSSU git repos.

Quote:

Is there any work in progress to improve any of the other default applications?

NAFAIK.

Quote:

I have seen that there are also some fixes from Nokia and the community that are still not applied (I can't remember exactly but I think there were some for PDF Viewer for example).

Raise a bug, linking to the stuff to be included.

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Maybe it could be a good idea to include in the CSSU Wiki page a section indicating the status of stock applications. Something like:

- Application A
Is it open source? If so, link to git repo.
If not, is anybody working on an open replacement? (let's try not to start several projects around the same app).

Good idea. Feel free to start it :-)

Suggest it goes under http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Development, perhaps http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/..._applications?

Quote:

For example, I know MAG started working on a replacement for Media Player but I can't even find if the Image Viewer application is closed source or not.

If you know the package, apt-get source <package> in Scratchbox is one way of finding out :-)

naabi

2011-02-23 09:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maemo55 (Post 953400)

trackerd eat my N900 cpu

Are you sure that you haven't just added loads of music etc. to your N900? Tracker spends quite a while indexing those and it's known to eat CPU.

sansar95

2011-02-23 09:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 953412)

I did the same but as soon i close the keyboard the screen turns off
No problem here

karmax

2011-02-23 09:58

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

I installed the latest Community SSU Patch and I discovered the following bugs by using the Humanity theme:

- blurless doesn't work
- taskswitcher doesn't work
- zaxisrotation doesn't work
- forcerotation works only for the menù and a few apps

I tried with other themes (Digital Nature and Okuda) and everything is fine.

Carlito

2011-02-23 09:59

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 953438)

No. However Open Media Player (in development) supports portrait, and is a wholesale open-source reproduction of the closed Media Player.

Any idea when this will be launched? Can't wait. . .

rishabsp

2011-02-23 10:01

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomchiverton (Post 953411)

Have you turned the features on ?

http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features

thanks bro !!!! nice work done techy gods love you.one more thing z axis rotation cant be smoother , I hope in future updates error will be removed luv u guys

Keneraali

2011-02-23 10:05

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Anyone else having problems with hildon-desktop killing itself until watchdog shuts down the device after rebooting?

debjitbis08

2011-02-23 10:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by karmax (Post 953451)

Some themes have their own transitions.ini file in /usr/share/theme/<Theme Name>/, did you enable the features there?

MohammadAG

2011-02-23 10:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by karmax (Post 953451)

Keep in mind the first 3 require a restart of hildon-desktop or a reboot.

ejasmudar

2011-02-23 10:19

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For compiling details of apps that work/dont work in portrait mode, i've added a wiki page :http://wiki.maemo.org/Portrait_Mode#..._Compatibility.
Please add all details there, so that we can have a single point of reference for the developers.

rantom

2011-02-23 10:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ejasmudar (Post 953466)

If you ask me there should be two listings : 1st party and 3rd party. Most users need to know whether the stock system works, 3rd party could come afterwards.

biobobby89

2011-02-23 10:34

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Hey MAG...I am not able to see the 9 desktops in the manage view thingy..Is there something i should do to activate this option?
BTW..Thanks for the updates..Loving it..Especially the Z-axis rotation..Love it...

karmax

2011-02-23 10:34

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 953464)

Keep in mind the first 3 require a restart of hildon-desktop or a reboot.

Edited transition.ini inside /opt/usr/share/themes/humanity as suggested me debjitbis08.

ivgalvez

2011-02-23 10:35

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 953439)

HAM is now included (see http://gitorious.org/community-ssu).
Good idea. Feel free to start it :-)

Suggest it goes under http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Development, perhaps http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/..._applications?

Working on it... :)

sansar95

2011-02-23 10:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ejasmudar (Post 953466)

This is good thinking
I have added for Application manager portrait status

ivgalvez

2011-02-23 10:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rantom (Post 953476)

If you ask me there should be two listings : 1st party and 3rd party. Most users need to know whether the stock system works, 3rd party could come afterwards.

I have just started with in-built applications.

ejasmudar

2011-02-23 10:38

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

ok the wiki has been updated to have seperate sections for system apps and 3rd party apps.

imacmillan

2011-02-23 10:40

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how do you get portrait keyboard to work?!

Ive tried installing fastsms and evo but that didnt work and tried portrait-keyboard from devel. help!

Great work so far though! soooo impressed!

Electricgod

2011-02-23 10:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by biobobby89 (Post 953477)

same here!!

normaltusker

2011-02-23 10:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by debjitbis08 (Post 953399)

I don't think a reboot is required. Just close all the conversation windows, will pick up the updated file in few minutes.

not sure if it works directly that way. I did not see it happening actually. a quick reboot did the trick for me. :)

droitwichgas

2011-02-23 10:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Electricgod (Post 953492)

same here!!

There should be a CSSU 12.1 which I dowloaded today which do the trick otherwise MohammedAG attached a link to his Deb file last night which got mine working and I assume this is part of the latest 12.1 upgrade.

I now have 9 desktops working - fantastic work by the Developer's to include this tweak!

imacmillan

2011-02-23 10:49

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by imacmillan (Post 953489)

how do you get portrait keyboard to work?!

Ive tried installing fastsms and evo but that didnt work and tried portrait-keyboard from devel. help!

Great work so far though! soooo impressed!

actually wait, i got it to work by enabling virtual keyboard. pretty cramped up though! cant really use your fingers!

ejasmudar

2011-02-23 10:50

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

BTW, the camera app display is buggy in portrait mode although the photo seems to be taken correctly.

Dark_Angel85

2011-02-23 10:51

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 953438)

No. However Open Media Player (in development) supports portrait, and is a wholesale open-source reproduction of the closed Media Player.

Open Media Player? Can't seem to find it

imacmillan

2011-02-23 10:52

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejasmudar (Post 953497)

BTW, the camera app display is buggy in portrait mode although the photo seems to be taken correctly.

wow that is buggy!

ivgalvez

2011-02-23 10:54

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejasmudar (Post 953466)

Please link the page from the Features section of the CSSU Wiki.

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