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zeebra

2013-04-18 19:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1336750)

They have been attempted, they were called Windows Mobile phones, and worked with similar paradigms as desktops (windows that can be minimized, maximized, menus, etc).

It worked out so well... Until the new interfaces came.

N900 and Windows Phone is not at all similar interfaces.

jalyst

2013-04-18 19:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zeebra (Post 1337113)

N900 and Windows Phone is not at all similar interfaces.

No he's referring to Window Mobile not WP, it used a VERY different UX, one still very much rooted to a desktop-like UX.

bigfatdeal

2013-04-18 19:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1337031)

Jolla Sailfish, The Unlike Qt-Powered Mobile OS

Meet-up will takes place on Monday, May 20, 2013, So we could see the Jolla phone before then :)

This is really close to where I work! I'm going to attend for sure.

mariusmssj

2013-04-19 18:28

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Jolla facebook just posted:

Quote:

20.05.13

Morpog

2013-04-19 18:31

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Thats not the official Jolla Facebook account.

Morpog

2013-04-19 18:39

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Ok, Stefano Mosconi (Jolla CTO) @zzste tweeted it:

Quote:

@mjafe_ksa save the date 20.05.13 #JollaLoveDay @jollahq

Damn, I'm getting excited <3

http://abload.de/img/jollaloveday9mrk3.png

Morpog

2013-04-19 18:46

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Made some Jolla wallpapers for #JollaLoveDay
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2oy7bp9fi...T_wGXeU0am?lst

http://abload.de/img/wallpaper_1920_1200b7pxv.png

Dave999

2013-04-19 18:53

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------------------- 20.05.13------------------------
http://cdn1.cdnme.se/cdn/8-1/3485218..._202449361.png

mikecomputing

2013-04-19 20:21

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1 Attachment(s)

Jolla for the future!!!

don_falcone

2013-04-19 21:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Morpog (Post 1337405)

@mjafe_ksa save the date 20.05.13 #JollaLoveDay @jollahq

Ok, that's the most stupid text i've seen this week. (And there were some stupid customer mails.) Yes, Twitter _is_ laughable.

shmerl

2013-04-19 21:35

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Twitter texts are usually really weird (one has to break one's head to read them). That's the result of their post length limitation. Normal networks like Diaspora use hashtags as well, but don't require you to speak in bird language.

jalyst

2013-04-20 05:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1337441)

Twitter texts are usually really weird (one has to break one's head to read them). That's the result of their post length limitation.
Normal networks like Diaspora use hashtags as well, but don't require you to speak in bird language.

That's why I asked this of you...
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...07#post1337107

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1337432)

[image grovelling to Nokia...]

No thanks, I don't want Nokia to touch anything to do with Maemo/MeeGo/Nemo/Sailfish ever again.*
There's MANY other players out there that the Sailfish Alliance needs to focus on, they don't need to grovel to Nokia before anyone else.

*except to handover the remaining maemo/meego infra w/o any bs, once they've finished their so-called "support"

nokiabot

2013-04-20 06:11

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Coy mistress !!!

Dave999

2013-04-20 06:17

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I don't think the may 20 is the date. I think it will come sooner. The 20th is the date for some Qt ******** in silly cone Vally. I assume we don't have to wait that long. My guesstimate is that 9th is the day for first sailfish announcment.

shmerl

2013-04-21 01:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1337107)

Do you think they understood exactly what your were asking there though?
I posed a similar set of Qns ages ago but the pricks never respond to me any more.
I've been uber critical/harsh one too many times... :rolleyes:

Luckily that question was pretty simple, so I think they understood it.

jalyst

2013-04-21 05:14

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Reading it again... probably, but it'd still be a good idea to double-check...
But I guess if they really were having problems they'd never (publicly) confirm that.

tissot

2013-04-21 16:30

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Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1337401)

Jolla facebook just posted:

While it's not the official Jolla Facebook page, so many (about half) are expecting official Sailfish launch for N9 on the answers.

They just don't get it.

shmerl

2013-04-21 18:59

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http://blog.gsmarena.com/jolla-to-de...or-eager-fans/

Quote:

In a tweet exchange earlier today, Jolla told TechCrunch that the “pre-sales” campaign isn’t intended to fund the production of the first Jolla phone, but rather a way for consumers to show their interest in the device and book their unit.

Dave999

2013-04-21 20:14

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Damn it. It's mid may and not early may :(

mariusmssj

2013-04-27 19:51

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Bit of news:

Quote:

Marc Dillon will be speaking on the 8th May at this years GMIC 2013 in Beijing, Asia’s largest and most influential mobile industry event and, for five years, has been at the forefront of the mobile Internet industry, focusing on global markets and emerging technologies.

Link here
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...05649861_n.png

Quote:

Jolla HQ earlier this week moved into larger premises in Helsinki

Link here
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...66491911_o.jpg

jiipee

2013-05-03 05:46

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Some new info on Talouselämä:

New professional CEO has been nominated. Tomi Pienimäki has been an advisor and investor since the beginning. He is also the brother to Jolla's sales director. I understand the need for pro CEO, though, shouldnt he be more from marketing background than logistics? Sounds like the old Nokia to me.

Also an interesting comment on the Ubuntu and China connection. “Based on our information there has been no official selection of this sort and there would be no sense in..., It was only a joint research project, China is happy to co-operate with everyone."

Some new members of the board. Ari Jaaksi (!) and Steve Lau from China Fortune holdings. IMO it is good to have Chinese parties involved. Also Boukerche Mohamed, of whom there is not much information.

Jussi Hurmola seems to be a free agent nowadays - still in the board though. Overpromise, underdeliver?

They confirm that pre-sales campaign will start soon.

http://www.talouselama.fi/uutiset/jo...board/a2182748

jiipee

2013-05-03 06:00

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On another article only in FInnish.

The pre-sales will start soon (the Finnish term used could be translated "within few days"). Pre-sales campaing is not so much about collecting financing, more about engaging fans. Finnish 'Invesdor' will supply the platform for the campaign.

The journalist is shown a prototype device, but is not allowed to share any information in it. The new CEO says that it is designed for 'individualists'. It is said that the phone will be slightly cheaper than the competition (ie the hw is not as high-end? ;) )

Addition to the article in English: Hurmola has also left the board and seems to have sold his shares.

http://www.talouselama.fi/uutiset/pa...os+ei/a2182750
http://www.talouselama.fi/uutiset/jo...ihtuu/a2182749

mariusmssj

2013-05-03 07:07

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Jolla gets new CEO and board

Quote:

Finnish smartphone start-up Jolla is changing its CEO. The new CEO is Tomi Pienimäki, previously CIO of Itella, the Finnish Post.

Jollas previous chief executive officer Mark Dillonwill continue as the company’s software development lead.

don_falcone

2013-05-03 09:18

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Q: "Jolla chairman of the board Antti Saarnio, why did you switch the CEO again?"

A: "Jolla has been in an R&D phase. Now we are preparing for product delivery, which changes the role of the CEO."

Does that mean that for more traditional companies where such phases co-exist, a schizophrenic CEO would be a good (and a possibly stabilizing continuity) opportunity?

EDIT: And someone familiar is back:

Quote:

New board members are:

Ari Jaaksi, senior vice president of McAfee. He was once the head of Nokia’s Meego platform development and after that led the WebOS-development at HP.

ZogG	2013-05-03 09:43

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I'm waiting when Elop would get there

Dave999

2013-05-03 09:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1340883)

I'm waiting when Elop would get there

if the continue joking around with the CEO position,I would say some time next year.

mikecomputing

2013-05-03 10:53

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Ari Jaaksi back in town, intresting...

jalyst

2013-05-03 16:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1340852)

Jolla gets new CEO and board

Refreshing, some coverage that's actually in English for a change, no offence toward Finnish, but it isn't exactly a major world language. It reflects poorly on Sailfish(Jolla) when the coverage is often only in Finnish, being based in Finland isn't a excuse. If the coverage must remain mostly non-English (which is silly), then Mandarin should take priority over Finnish.

Quote:

Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1340880)

Does that mean that for more traditional companies where such phases co-exist, a schizophrenic CEO would be a good (and a possibly stabilizing continuity) opportunity?

I'm not sure what you mean, could you clarify?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1340883)

I'm waiting when Elop would get there

For the love of God no, kill it with fire, QUICKLY! :D

Canonical's media stunt:

Quote:

But has the Chinese government already chosen its favourite operating system? A couple of weeks ago Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu OS, said that Chinese Ministry of Industry and Information Technology has selected Canonical’s Ubuntu as the basis of China’s official smart phone platform.

“That was a media stunt organized by Canonical”, says Saarnio. “Based on our information there has been no official selection of this sort and there would be no sense in [this kind of choice]. It was only a joint research project, China is happy to co-operate with everyone.”

One thing is certain. Chinese officials may not have chosen their favourite OS, but at this point they dislike the ones that come from US. The Chinese will be happy if the non-US smartphone operating systems gain market share. Finnish Jolla with its Chinese investors and partners is in good position.

No venture capitalists, please!

Quote:

The presales campaign of the first Jolla smart phone will begin soon. ”This is not about money”, says chairman Antti Saarnio.

”We couldn’t collect enough capital this way, but we want to start building the Jolla community. Jolla has over 20 000 active fans in services like Twitter and Facebook and this way we can let them participate. At the same time we can estimate the actual number of potential customers.”

To get more capital, Jolla will be issuing a convertible bond for institutional investors during June. Saarnio says that the size of this loan will be about 30 million euros. The investors will be able to change the loan into Jolla stocks if the company realizes its IPO as planned.

Jolla has gathered 11 million euros from private investors and Tekes, the Finnish Funding Agency for Technology and Innovation. Antti Saarnio says that the company is not looking for traditional venture capital funding at this point.

He says that Finnish venture capital funds are so small that they could not scale up with Jolla and the global venture capitalists tend to control too much.

“Jolla needs peace”, he says.

New Board members:

Quote:

Jolla has named a new board of directors. From the Jolla team, Antti Saarnio will continue as chairman and company co-founder Stefano Mosconi as a board member.
New board members are:

Ari Jaaksi, senior vice president of McAfee. He was once the head of Nokia’s Meego platform development and after that led the WebOS-development at HP.
Steve Lau, an investor and the chairman and the CEO of the Chine Fortune Holding Limited. This company was the early mobile phone distributor for Nokia in China.
Boukerche Mohamed, entrepreneur and an investor that has a knowledge of Arabic and CIS-countries.

jalyst

2013-05-07 17:02

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Live-stream on 08/05/13 @9am Beijing time
http://beijing.thegmic.com/live/

Jordi

2013-05-07 22:06

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Quit interesting interview of S. Mosconi.

Source: technonation.net via jollaFr.org

Zoxir

2013-05-07 22:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1340883)

I'm waiting when Elop would get there

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1340885)

if the continue joking around with the CEO position,I would say some time next year.

Ok these to comments made my day :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordi (Post 1341972)

Quit interesting interview of S. Mosconi.

Source: technonation.net via jollaFr.org

Really Interesting stuff there, Finally someone says they don't care about various devices atm and are concentrated with their own (also glad I haven't forgeten my italian :p )

onethreealpha

2013-05-08 00:23

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...so what's Jussi doing now?
Jussi stepped down as CEO to concentrate on "Software" and then Marc does the same.
All good, but where does that leave Juss?
I've heard some rumours that he's not actively working for Jolla atm. would love to get facts to either quash or verify that one.

jalyst

2013-05-08 02:25

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Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1341986)

I tried to get answers once but got vague responses (it was twitter after all), IIRC he's supposedly concentrating more on the "Sailfish alliance" side of things.
i.e. getting other companies involved with Sailfish. I think he was also on the board of the Sailfish alliance IIRC.

onethreealpha

2013-05-08 03:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1341995)

couple of weeks and we'll find out what the whole crew has been up to.
apparently Marc Dillon flashed the orange back of the device at GMIC?
Their little dinghy is a watertight vessel, that's for sure. No leaks at all.

jalyst

2013-05-08 03:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1342008)

apparently Marc Dillon flashed the orange back of the device at GMIC?

You sure? Cool.
He supposedly doesn't speak until the latter half of the 2nd (final) day:
http://beijing.thegmic.com/agenda/

jflatt

2013-05-08 03:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1342008)

apparently Marc Dillon flashed the orange back of the device at GMIC?

Sure it wasnt a geeksphone keon?

onethreealpha

2013-05-08 03:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jflatt (Post 1342014)

Sure it wasn't a geeksphone keon?

this was my first thought too, but only relaying the desperate lies... err... rumours that are flying around. :)

Given that Jolla have been emphasising Sailfish's ability to run on lower end hardware, the two dev devices would make great hardware platforms to finetune for lower specced handsets, that's for sure.

As I said, watertight ship, and since they've managed to leak nothing from a h/w perspective so far (including their partners), I'm happy to wait a few more weeks.

just hoping that the early adopter/pre order sign up will be international and not restricted to EU/Asia.....

juiceme

2013-05-08 05:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordi (Post 1341972)

Quit interesting interview of S. Mosconi.

Source: technonation.net via jollaFr.org

OO, this is good news: :D

Quote:

Il primo mercato che vedrà un terminale Sailfish sarà quello Finlandese, considerando che abbiamo circa 5 milioni di fans. Dopodichè verrà rilasciato in Cina e successivamente in Europa, anche se non vi è ancora chiarezza su come avverrà la commercializzazione, se attraverso operatori telefonici o attraverso la vendita on line.
Per quanto concerne i tempi, nella seconda metà del 2013 inizieremo a fornire i primi due mercati, Finlandia e Cina.
Comunque a progetto concluso i tempi sono legati agli accordi con gli operatori, abbiamo visto che c’è molto interesse. Poi è ovvio che dobbiamo vedere come si concretizzerà questo interesse.

minimos

2013-05-08 05:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1341986)

Well, Jussi currently lists himself in LinkedIn as "Free Agent, Individual Contributor" (which doesn't seem like he's very busy with Jolla business), but it should be still board member in Jolla.

Dave999

2013-05-08 05:50

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Jussi is out. That's how it goes for old ceo's
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