maemo.org - Talk - Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Despite that I've been using my own image and for sure I haven't had such errors before, it seems that after dist-upgrade I was also lacking pl_pl (ISO-8859-1) - 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' - in which i generated pl_PL (ISO one) and set pl_PL.UTF-8 as default - also did the trick for me.

Warnings are gone, but now, polish language special characters aren't properly printed in terminal, but it's minor glitch.

just for the records - 'apt-get purge libreoffice', 'rm -r /home/user/.libreoffice' and 'apt-get install libreoffice -t squeeze-backports' did the trick about running LibreOffice from user, so now shortcuts (so, running through 'debbie libreoffice') are working flawlessly.

/Estel

Estel

2012-01-11 02:17

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

@sulu
No joy with:

Code:

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text "\Alt_L""

...while, for example, F5 mapped as:

Code:

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text "\F5""

...works flawlessly. Probably it's something simple, but I'm out of ideas - tried to find correct syntax for xvkbd for a long time, but everywhere alt is listed only as modifier, not resulted keypress...

/Estel

qole	2012-01-13 17:23

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1148103)

As qole totally ignored my proposition about image with OO replaced with LibreOffice and Iceweasel replaced with Chromium, i don't think he's interested in hosting and adding another image for ED auto installer.

I don't mind hosting any complete images for the auto installer. If you send me a link like sulu did, I will host it. And I won't say insulting things about you.

Quote:

@qole
Could you explain, what's the "magic" behind bt-hid-script, that allow hassle-free usage of external keyboard inside LXDE?

You have to run setxkbmap for DISPLAY :1 as well as :0. The relevant code from my bt-script:

Code:

if [ $EDMOUNT = yes ] ; then



  echo "Setting layout for Easy Debian (display :1)."



  # Set layout for Easy Debian

  setxkbmap -device $EXTKBDID -I -I/usr/share/X11/xkb-chinook \

            -rules $KBDRULES -model $KBDMODEL -layout $KBDLAYOUT -print \

          | xkbcomp - :1 2>/dev/null



fi

Estel

2012-01-14 01:08

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 1150175)

(...)If you send me a link like sulu did, I will host it. And I won't say insulting things about you.(...)

Thanks a lot for answer and the code, but why do you think I meant to insult You? "ignored" was meant to mean exactly what it means in base language, without any layer 2 of irony. I've written about it, You have written few posts after it without picking up this topic = I've written that You ignored it. No ranting, no blaming, no irony intended.

Take my excuses, if my somehow "shortly-informative" style of writing actually left wrong impression.

/Estel

ibrakalifa

2012-01-14 03:39

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

i can chroot ubuntu image, but not with fedora one, what should i do??, and anybody know how to chroot meego image easily as easy-debian has??

mscion

2012-01-22 14:49

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Well, I'm a little slow to get to things but I finally tried kernel-power v49 and CSSU.

1)When over clocking there was good improvement in starting up LDXE. For example when increasing clockspeed form 600Mhz to 900Mhz the time to start up LXDE went from about 30s to 20s give or take a second or two. This was impressive! Where I was disappointed was that if I start up OO writer from LXDE there was not much improvement. Is this mainly due to RAM limitations or any idea if having the dedicated partition will further improve. Regardless, I will next try to make the dedicated partition for Easy Debian on sdcard. As I am a bit inexperienced at this would someone recommend some posts to follow instructions. Also, any caveats?

2)Just an observation in re CSSU. If I start ED in portrait the LXDE actually appeared in portrait for a second but then went to landscape without me rotating the N900. Doesn't really matter as it is hard to use the HWKB in portrait anyways!

guyr	2012-01-22 17:08

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Hi,

I dist-upgrade to squeeze, but without reading the wiki before :-(

So now i have a problem with dbus and hal because i remove
/etc/apt/preferences before upgrade and i get dbus and hal from squeeze.
Note that when i 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart' under the chroot, my n900 reboot !!! :-(
So i put some "exit 0" on top of /etc/init.d/dbus and /etc/init.d/hal to prevent reboot.
Now i can run pulseaudio (the version i get from the wiki) but there is no sound :

Code:

$ alsamixer

ALSA lib dlmisc.c:236:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_dsp_ctl.so

cannot open mixer: No such device or address

I notice that the module libasound_module_ctl_dsp_ctl.so was remove between lenny and squeeze from libasound2-plugins.

Thank you.

sulu	2012-01-23 15:37

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

@guyr:
I'm not sure what happened to your Easy Debian but it seems to me like something went wrong during the dist-upgrade and now you have a mixed alsa installation.
My first attempt to fix it would be to reinstall libasound2-plugins or even all alsa-related packages.

@mscion:
The reason why OO and other heavy applications don't start significantly faster after overclocking is that most of their delay comes from reading all the data from the mass storage where the bottle neck is the mass storage, not the CPU. (btw: this is exactly the type of applications where in a desktop computer replacing an HDD for an SSD would make sense)

As for having a dedicated partition for Easy Debian I can't give you first-hand information since I use image files. But derived from other Debian chroots all you have to do is to copy all the data from the image to an ext2 (less write access) or ext3 (more robust FS) partition on your sd card and adjusting the Easy Debian start script not to mount the image but the partition (or mount it via Maemo's fstab directly).
The reason why I still use image files is because they are easier to handle. I usually have multiple images on my sd card (at least: work image, test image and backup image) and if I mess something up it's easier to restore (well, now that I think about it this isn't quite right but the alternative would be less flexible in terms of storage space).

If you want portrait mode in Easy Debian try the patched x-server packages linked by Estel some time ago! I will add a section for that to the Easy Debian wiki article!

maartenmk

2012-01-23 20:41

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

@mscion: A dedicated partition for ED is highly recommended. I did quite some measurements of OO startup times in different configurations some time ago, search the thread.
I also found out that starting OO from within Maemo is faster than starting LXDE and then starting OO.

@Estel: Is your image available yet? I was hoping to see a further improvement in speed and compatibility with Libre-Office

Estel

2012-01-23 22:11

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Sorry, was pushed by tight personal schedule. Really, will try to do it ASAP, but this time I won't promise "today or tomorrow", don't want to fail expectations ;)

@Sulu
Because You're kinda specialist here ;) Any highlights, about what should be done before image can be considered "uploadable" for wide audience? I thought for setting locales to EN, instead of my PL. Any other remarks?

/Estel

// Edit

sulu, excuse my noobiness, but where to put files from attachment to:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/...ebian_Packages
...(lxpanel.tar)? Of course, orientation script goes to /.debian/usr/bin/ (I correctly assumed, that it should be executed from within ED, *not* Maemo itself, right?), but for other files, I have no clue.
---

Also, as ED is far from "testing" now, we have fully working Squeeze release, and this thread grew up to epic size, what do You think about creating proper announcement, after releasing image with all sulu's work + chromium instead of Iceweasel (faster on N900, less RAM-hungry - to the point, that I use it comfortably as "everyday" browser on my device), and LibreOffice instead of OpenOffice?

All this Squeeze thing seems to be big milestone for ED. qole is less active now in Maemo area (no accusing, no demanding, no rant, no offense, no bad words, etc ;) ), and proper announcement by active member (sulu, most likely, or, in worst case, me) would give control over first page (updates), + probably bring fresh, well-deserved attention to Easy Debian. At least, IMHO.

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