Re: Here Is Why The PR 1.2 Firmware For The Nokia N900 Is Late
 

That's the famous fanboy speech I've heard so many times...

Forget your devotion for just a minute and think from the consumer point of view.... I just don't care what are Nokia standards and its past history. In the past the market was pretty different and Nokia was not competing with Android and iPhone!! I am not saying I love one of these competitors, but Nokia is now entering a huge fight against huge companies. Like it or not Maemo 5 was since the beginning a device for geeks, and there won't be much improved after Meego is released. I doubt you can point me any roadmap to Maemo 5 updates... or better, check if N800/N810 owners are getting a lot of updates or even new applications lately!!

But after seeing your signature I understand you are a developer asking donations for Decoders Support you ported, so now things are more clear. You are not just a consumer, you are getting some money with Maemo 5, so it is not of your interest that somebody complain about Nokia not offering Meego on N900.

Re: Here Is Why The PR 1.2 Firmware For The Nokia N900 Is Late
 

Complementing my last post, most members should already know Adobe launched Flash 10.1 for Android first, not Maemo 5.... I don't doubt they will launch it just for Meego!!

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...046#post668046

Re: Here Is Why The PR 1.2 Firmware For The Nokia N900 Is Late
 

Well not quite. This is how NOKIA´s Linux people work.

Business, as in the competitors, Apple, Microsoft and Google have provided platform updates on the OS itself after devices with older versions had been out for months, even years.

Maybe the Linux people at Nokia need to come out of their dark basement offices and mingle a little bit with the outside world...let them see the sun every once in a while.

On the Symbian side my N95-1 was still getting considerable upgrades 3 years after I bought it.

Isn´t Apple Iphone OS 4 coming to the 2nd Generation Iphones this summer?

Re: Here Is Why The PR 1.2 Firmware For The Nokia N900 Is Late
 

OS 4 will come to 3G but no multitasking.

Re: Here Is Why The PR 1.2 Firmware For The Nokia N900 Is Late
 

Right, but it´s still coming. Fully supported and provided by Apple.

There may be reasons that some functions do not come over, based on some hardware limitations. I mean my 10 years old laptop with a CD drive doesn´t write DVD RW´s, and I don´t go bonkers because it can´t.

But I do expect Nokia to support this device which had and still has potential, that is tremendously under-realized, for quite some while.

Re: Here Is Why The PR 1.2 Firmware For The Nokia N900 Is Late
 

I know Apple has (though this ends soon for the first iPhones) but Microsoft? Surely you jest. Sometimes HTC is nice enough to release upgraded ROMs, but usually it's people migrating to xda-developers for new ROMs. Ditto for Android devices, which are even more dependent on wrestling control away from the carrier and device manufacturer (or worse, impossible if you bought certain Motorola devices.)

Maybe you need some perspective on just how hostile other vendors really are, and how you paint a pretty picture of them because you hate Nokia.

The 3G models yes, the 2.5G models are SOL. I suspect Apple will stick to that cadence. Next to go will be the 3G (slow CPU) then the 3GS.

OId, slow CPU.

It has tons of potential to be exploited, I don't see why everyone expected Nokia to do it all for them when it was never geared as such. If you want a device where the OS comes packed with phone stuff and an app store to nickel and dime you, then perhaps a Symbian phone would have been right up your alley.

Re: Here Is Why The PR 1.2 Firmware For The Nokia N900 Is Late
 

Don´t go blind on the fanboy side. I don´t hate Nokia. I like their hardware side. And I loved my N95-1.

I´ve been buying almost all Nokia´s for 15 years now.

It´s the software deficiencies, which a community of well meaning amateurs cannot replace, of the developers at Nokia´s linux department that I do not appreciate.

Re: Here Is Why The PR 1.2 Firmware For The Nokia N900 Is Late
 

Criticism of a false point regarding other vendors now makes me a fanboy. Right.

Good job insulting the entire community.

Re: Here Is Why The PR 1.2 Firmware For The Nokia N900 Is Late
 

I expect so too, especially as Apple has to raise their hardware specs to match their competitors (mainly on the Android front). Even now with the leaked Apple prototypes I think the HTC Incredible and the Evo are still more impressive spec wise. Of course there's the user experience that's important too (but Android and HTC are constantly improving that).

Though Apple is doing a great job of bugfixes and application support for the older devices.

For Meego I think the best we can hope for is

a) working hardware with a very rudimentary OS GUI (there's gotta be something for the developers to boot into after all).
b) application support thru QT compatibility

Re: Here Is Why The PR 1.2 Firmware For The Nokia N900 Is Late
 

I think you have correctly summarized Nokia's position on the N900, which is why in a few years their portion of the mobile phone market will consist entirely of 10 euro flip phones sold in sub-Saharan Africa.

They *must* stop abandoning their high end products as soon as they release a newer device. Or when they decide to change software directions. They are alienating their end customers, and developers will ignore their products because they will never have a large customer base which can run the same apps.