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maxximuscool 2010-10-15 10:06

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
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Originally Posted by ChoMar (Post 841764)
Just found something at Heise (german)
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldu...t-1107850.html

or in English
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/it...0-1107926.html

(dont know if anyone has posted this already, didnt find it)

So Dualboot is going to be implemented in 1.3 to support MeeGo. Good think, sounds as if our little magic device will somehow be supported by MeeGo. Still no built-in Deathray, though.

I think you're about 247 posts late. Pay attention to the thread title!!! And read the first post.

Matan 2010-10-15 10:11

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
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Originally Posted by slender (Post 841651)
Who knows. Probably chips manufactures and subcontractors. Maybe maximuscool wishes that those parties have weak moment and they give Nokia permission to release their drivers as OS.

Or maybe not. :|

You are as wrong as can be.

There is one third party closed driver (SGX), the rest of the closed code (which is most of maemo 5) is code by Nokia which is closed by Nokia decision.

Just to show you how stupid this claim that Nokia wants stuff open, but is forced to close by third parties:

770 - Nokia power chips - closed BME - can't be replaced.
N800 - Nokia power chips - closed BME - can't be replaced.
N810 - Nokia power chips - closed BME - can't be replaced.
N900 - TI power chips - closed BME - can be replaced, because we have all the needed information.

See the difference between Nokia and third parties?

maxximuscool 2010-10-15 10:14

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
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Originally Posted by Matan (Post 841785)
You are as wrong as can be.

There is one third party closed driver (SGX), the rest of the closed code (which is most of maemo 5) is code by Nokia which is closed by Nokia decision.

Just to show you how stupid this claim that Nokia wants stuff open, but is forced to close by third parties:

770 - Nokia power chips - closed BME - can't be replaced.
N800 - Nokia power chips - closed BME - can't be replaced.
N810 - Nokia power chips - closed BME - can't be replaced.
N900 - TI power chips - closed BME - can be replaced, because we have all the needed information.

See the difference between Nokia and third parties?

Thank Matan for the infor. OpenSource Device.. Opensource OS but yet closed Apps and Drivers lol. How is that Opened according to GNU? Nokia is very silly. Not much we can do. Got to live with the controlled environment.

kureyon 2010-10-15 10:23

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
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Originally Posted by volt (Post 840912)
Adobe has an partial or complete update available and are happy to sell it to Nokia.

That's low. They're begging Jobs to take it for the iphone, and yet they're trying to sell it Nokia?
:rolleyes:

HumanPenguin 2010-10-15 10:28

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
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Originally Posted by Rushmore (Post 840575)
You N900 folks are kind of l like modern day HAM radio hobbiest ;)

In Nokias limp defense, they did say this device and OS were a stepping stone.

The irony is all they had to do was release Flash 10.1 and a lot of the other accumulating issues would be forgotten. How hard world that have been?

Some of us are Ham Radio Hobbyists.

The death of HAM is a little exaggerated. It is defiantly smaller in modern times but there are still a few million of us around the world.

AlMehdi 2010-10-15 11:05

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
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Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 841722)
I really have my doubt on "Worth it" part mate.
Nokia always behind competitors in term of OS and hardware. Usually Nokia selling an underpowered device at higher price or equally the same as the competitors.

Eg: N97-mini is the same price as NexusOne and almost the same as Iphone4.

Specs wise Nokia got a lot of small pieces in one package but high spec wise Nokia have ARM11 and low RAM.

Not sure if N9 is going to be over the competitors when we are talking about specs and OS here. Also supporting the device may be the biggest part. Apple has world wide warranty, Droid I don't know, but Nokia is country wise warranty.

N9 will be a undoubtedly expensive and the hardware will not surpassing any devices released in the same year. Question is should we still trust in Nokia to be the early adopter of MeeGO? From Maemo5 point of view (early adopter), it left a big Question mark on my forehead.

Hmm... A8 Processor... Hmm..."?"

Ehh... what have you been smoking. The n900 was awhile the most powerful. Now you'll get most power per dollar. In Sweden you could buy the n900 for 5000 sek and the Nexus for 7000 sek. Now i think the n900 goes for 3000-3500 sek.

Apple are famous to overprice.. they normaly take double the price for what it is worth.

jnack95 2010-10-15 11:36

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
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Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 841786)
Thank Matan for the infor. OpenSource Device.. Opensource OS but yet closed Apps and Drivers lol. How is that Opened according to GNU? Nokia is very silly. Not much we can do. Got to live with the controlled environment.

Or quit whining, learn assembler and write your own drivers! I don't really care if they don't want to share their code for their devices, as long as they provide current binary drivers for use.....the idea that everything has to be open source is not practical.

HumanPenguin 2010-10-15 11:41

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
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Originally Posted by Larswad (Post 840813)
I'm very glad like everyone else here in this thread about the news of MeeGo at N900. The N900 is the best device they've ever made.

However, one thing confuses me a bit, what way is Nokia going to take when they now have both Symbian 3 and MeeGo. Are they going to divide their phones in two segments, where some get Symbian, and some get MeeGo. Isn't that somewhat confusing on their market focus, especially since they should keep themselves strong in the competition, iOS, Android and now Windows Mobile 7.
I'm curious about what strategy they have in mind.

Nokia has answered this in the past.

Hinted at all future N Series devices being MeeGo but that is not sure. We may see Symbian^4 on an N Series in the future

But yes Symbian and Meego will run in parallel.

Symbian 3 and 4 will continue to be a smartphone OS Nokia Meego Devices will be thought of more as pocket computers.

Having seen some Leaked images of the N9 in other threads (to be taken with a pinch of salt). The device very much looks along those lines. Think 4inch MacBook with phone functions.

If Nokia goes this way I will be very happy. This is exactly what I want from a phone. But I think I am a small user base.

notaridavid 2010-10-15 11:54

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Hi Everyone,

Anyone knows what will contain/change PR 1.3 ?
I read all post but I didn't get any answer.

thanks.

volt 2010-10-15 12:17

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
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Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 841788)
That's low. They're begging Jobs to take it for the iphone, and yet they're trying to sell it Nokia?
:rolleyes:

Why do you think Jobs went apeshot on Adobe in the first place? Because he thought the world would be a better place if his products no longer could appeal to users who wanted to play flash games?

No. Because he didn't want to pay over and over again for updates.


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