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marmistrz 2012-02-06 15:32
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
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Originally Posted by Cue (Post 1161286)
Pretty much all OS collect your data though so Nokia is no longer safe.
And what about CSSU? is N900 collecting data?

Cue 2012-02-06 15:41
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1161263)
I'd be very interested to know what motivated NOKIA's board to go along with all this.
Seeing as Jorma Ollila, Bengt Holmström and Per Karlsson are all leaving the board I'd assume that some aren't happy about their new plans.

Cue 2012-02-06 15:44
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Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1161287)
And what about CSSU? is N900 collecting data?
I don't think it is, no. I don't think it was even without CSSU but I'm not sure. I was just referring to Nokias from now on.

stickymick 2012-02-06 16:56
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Originally Posted by Cue (Post 1161293)
I don't think it is, no. I don't think it was even without CSSU but I'm not sure. I was just referring to Nokias from now on.
Don't think Nokia's were data mining previously to WP7. Maybe our N900s sent a SMS when we updated the firmware at one time, (as far as I'm aware mine didn't even do that).
Maybe the networks are sucking it all in through their services.
I used to get hell and all unsolicited texts when I had my Vodafone branded N95 mostly stuff I'd searched for when using the Vodafone Live portal. Eventually I think STOP was the only suggestion that ever came up from the T9 dictionary.
I've probably had 1 every 6 months or less frequent with the N900.

gerbick 2012-02-06 17:20
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Originally Posted by Cue (Post 1161292)
Seeing as Jorma Ollila, Bengt Holmström and Per Karlsson are all leaving the board I'd assume that some aren't happy about their new plans.
Jorma was already leaving - said so in 2010 when OPK was still CEO that he'd be leaving in 2012. Not sure about the rest though.

Cue 2012-02-06 17:48
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1161329)
Jorma was already leaving - said so in 2010 when OPK was still CEO that he'd be leaving in 2012. Not sure about the rest though.
It was a few days after they announced Elop
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...239171870.html

I would have been annoyed too.

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signals a deeper transformation could be in store at the Finnish company than many had anticipated.
How right they were and how little we knew.

marmistrz 2012-02-06 19:03
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
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Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 1161320)
Don't think Nokia's were data mining previously to WP7. Maybe our N900s sent a SMS when we updated the firmware at one time, (as far as I'm aware mine didn't even do that).
Maybe the networks are sucking it all in through their services.
I used to get hell and all unsolicited texts when I had my Vodafone branded N95 mostly stuff I'd searched for when using the Vodafone Live portal. Eventually I think STOP was the only suggestion that ever came up from the T9 dictionary.
I've probably had 1 every 6 months or less frequent with the N900.
And is "My Nokia" user-spying stuff?

switch-hitter 2012-02-06 19:52
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
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Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1161273)
Very interesting... Where did you found it out?
http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic....11111122291296

don_falcone 2012-02-06 20:09
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1161382)
direct link.

_David_ 2012-02-06 23:16
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1161382)
Wow.......


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