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Dousan 2010-04-09 19:46

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 603182)
You should start the editor from the Debian chroot terminal (the app with red swirl). That gives you root permissions.

Did it with debian chroot and followed the instructions in the link you provided. The language inside the lxde is danish but it does not work when i start open off. from inside lxde then its back to us layout. The good thing is that it works if i use the desktop shortcut and start it from there then i have the danish keyboard layout :confused: Anyway the open off got back to being usefull again :D

Thanks for your help rebhana :)

e: Maybe i did not put the @setxkbmap da (asume thats danish) line in right place of the /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart. Is it suppose to be the last line (7)?

taptap 2010-04-09 20:06

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
could i use iceweasel or something. This program is just what I need, is there a way I use parts of it. Sorry Im a total noob just seems that its installed ok. how would I edit it to run with another browser?epiphany?

rebhana 2010-04-09 21:35

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan (Post 603341)
Maybe i did not put the @setxkbmap da (asume thats danish) line in right place of the /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart. Is it suppose to be the last line (7)?

Evidently, "da" is not recognized. (The debbie desktop application just takes over from Maemo, so doesn't need this.) In LXDE, try "dano" (for Danish/Norwegian) or "nordic" (for Danish/Norwegian/Finnish/Swedish), those assignments exist on the Maemo side, while there is no "da" keymap in Maemo's rx51 file.

EDIT: I've collected all keymap labels from /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51 and listed them in the wiki instructions for localization.

rebhana 2010-04-09 21:46

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taptap (Post 603367)
could i use iceweasel or something. This program is just what I need, is there a way I use parts of it. Sorry Im a total noob just seems that its installed ok. how would I edit it to run with another browser?epiphany?

iceweasel is just another name for firefox, so that will have the same problem with kompozer, I think.

For hacking kompozer's mozilla-run.sh you would of course need some basic knowledge of shell scripts. But you could just give it a try and open that in an editor, have a look whether a specific browser is called therein, and replace it by /usr/bin/epiphany-gecko. But also epiphany is based on Mozilla, so I wouldn't give it too much hope.

taptap 2010-04-09 22:08

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is that usr/lib or usr/bin? am i at a deadend ¿

rebhana 2010-04-09 22:23

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Originally Posted by taptap (Post 603509)
is that usr/lib or usr/bin?

The executable is /usr/bin/epiphany-gecko. There is also a lib containing plugins: /usr/lib/epiphany-gecko/2.22/plugins/libdesktopfileplugin.so

EDIT: before wasting too much time, I would look for an alternative to kompozer. Unfortunately, I'm of no help here - I just don't use WYSIWYG editors. (I then see what I get and never know how to get what I want...)

taptap 2010-04-09 22:57

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Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 603530)
The executable is /usr/bin/epiphany-gecko. There is also a lib containing plugins: /usr/lib/epiphany-gecko/2.22/plugins/libdesktopfileplugin.so

EDIT: before wasting too much time, I would look for an alternative to kompozer. Unfortunately, I'm of no help here - I just don't use WYSIWYG editors. (I then see what I get and never know how to get what I want...)

I can edit the code and use filezila and say bluefish. I can store java online...however I like to get a visual preview of the code simply (i studied etching)Im not sure if bluefish does that..Is Bluefish on squeeze ? I would like to know why kompozer does not work! I cant think of a better place to ask this question.

regards

rebhana 2010-04-09 23:09

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Bluefish is already in lenny. You can check the Debian archive here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages . There "Stable" refers to lenny, and "Testing" to squeeze.

Dousan 2010-04-10 06:09

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 603456)
Evidently, "da" is not recognized. (The debbie desktop application just takes over from Maemo, so doesn't need this.) In LXDE, try "dano" (for Danish/Norwegian) or "nordic" (for Danish/Norwegian/Finnish/Swedish), those assignments exist on the Maemo side, while there is no "da" keymap in Maemo's rx51 file.

EDIT: I've collected all keymap labels from /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51 and listed them in the wiki instructions for localization.

That did the trick. It works now in open off. when i start it from drop down menu in lxde :D

Once again thanks for the help rebhana :)

e: So the line to put in the autostart file is <@setxkbmap dano> for the danish/norwegian keyboard layout :)

rebhana 2010-04-10 14:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by taptap (Post 603265)
from kompozer site :
Latest stable version: 0.7.10 (2007-08-30)
Warning: this version does NOT work with recent GNU/Linux distros.
KompoZer 0.7 is not compatible with GTK ≥ 2.14 — expect crashes. If you’re using a Linux distro that ships KompoZer 0.7.10 with GTK ≥ 2.14, please inform the package maintainers about this.

does that scuper me plans?

I also looked at http://www.kompozer.net/ now, and it says that this was fixed in version 0.8. Debian actually ships 0.8 so there should be no problem in principle.

Having become curious, I installed kompozer on my Debian laptop, and there it actually works. Installing it in Easy Debian on the N900 however crashes exactly as you described.:(

taptap 2010-04-11 16:57

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should I activate sid repository? Which architecture?Armel?

http://packages.debian.org/sid/web/kompozer

rebhana 2010-04-11 18:42

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taptap (Post 605599)
should I activate sid repository? Which architecture?Armel?

http://packages.debian.org/sid/web/kompozer

Sid and squeeze have the same version of kompozer it seems. (The architecture is selected automatically btw.)

qole 2010-04-11 19:09

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
My suspicion is that the problem is caused by the gecko engine, which according to this is version 1.8. Version 1.9 was the first version of gecko that didn't crash on arm processors... If they didn't embed the engine, but instead used the xulrunner package, then it wouldn't be a problem...

surfa 2010-04-13 11:26

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Originally Posted by hstende (Post 595525)
On my ubuntu-image inside lxde it took about 45s from I started opening openoffice writer till I could write some text with kernel running at 950

Perhaps this not the correct spot to ask I apologize...
At the end of last year I had two n900 and sent both back because of display and bluetooth problems and because a lot of SW lacks compared with Psion 3, 5, nokia 9500 and e90.
Now I am on my way to start a new attempt. Can you tell me whether you can use the complete OO writer and calc functions, menus... and is it possible to switch between a maemo application as Calendar or records and the OO writer or calc easily via alt-tab?

Thank you for answering.

bimbim 2010-04-13 11:37

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Originally Posted by surfa (Post 608407)
Can you tell me whether you can use the complete OO writer and calc functions, menus... and is it possible to switch between a maemo application as Calendar or records and the OO writer or calc easily via alt-tab?

Yes and yes (though not via alt-tab but the camera button or the desktop switcher button on the top left of the screen).

paai 2010-04-14 07:02

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@qole: I'd like to put my money where my mouth is, but I can't handle paypal. If you add Ideal as a paying channel, I will keep you in beer for a few nights. Or any other beverage of your choice.

Having said this, I want to add a few remarks on this thread. It is not your fault, but with 102 pages, and a very bad interface, this thread is absolutely unwieldy even to browse let alone to search. I have a few questions and remarks, and I am sure they are answered somewhere, but I just cannot find them.

First: why the Gimp as default picture viewer? I am sure that the default can be changed somewhere in LXE, but I cannot find it. The Gimp is just too unwieldy to browse my pictures.

Second: has anybody tried to install Evolution or Kdepim in Easy Debian, and linked it for syncing with Gcalendar? I want to try it, but I am afraid of running out of space.

Three: are there faster alternatives than OO to read email attachments in doc or odt format? Again, OO just takes too long to load if you only want read-only access.

Four: did I thank you for this otherwise absolutely fantastic addition to the N900?


Paai

lq_sunshine 2010-04-14 07:04

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Did anyone get alsa running with the v3 image?
I cant use music player and audacity.

LQ

rebhana 2010-04-14 19:23

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lq_sunshine (Post 609788)
Did anyone get alsa running with the v3 image?
I cant use music player and audacity.

LQ

See the instructions here

qole 2010-04-14 19:38

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
paai: I would never try to block people willing to donate to the project, but I have been unable to find an easy way to create a free "donate" button for my web page that uses iDeal as the back-end. All I can find is information for "merchants" (businesses), and it doesn't look cheap to use...

Anyone know where to get information on setting up a free (or inexpensive) iDeal account for accepting donations?

ear0wax 2010-04-14 21:21

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Hey Qole is there any way to install any of your images Natively? I mean a dual boot type.

qole 2010-04-14 21:45

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ear0wax: booting my images has never been a focus of my project, sorry.

ear0wax 2010-04-14 21:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 610900)
ear0wax: booting my images has never been a focus of my project, sorry.

Im not asking for info how, just wondering if its technically possible, Was just looking for some insight before i tried to myself.

paai 2010-04-15 06:25

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 610698)
paai: I would never try to block people willing to donate to the project, but I have been unable to find an easy way to create a free "donate" button for my web page that uses iDeal as the back-end. All I can find is information for "merchants" (businesses), and it doesn't look cheap to use...

Anyone know where to get information on setting up a free (or inexpensive) iDeal account for accepting donations?

Just leave the number of your bank account or email it with the PIC-number, or ENIC-number of the bank (or whatever number it is that enables you to do international transfers...forgot the exact word) No, I am not phishing, every commercial firm and many private persons have their banknumber on, e.g. their letterhead. I for me never understood why anyone should keep that a secret.

My problems:

Solved: I am digging through the LXDE documentation (that is pretty much non-existent!) and got the Gimp exchanged for fotoxx. I still feel very strongly that this should be the default.

I still would like to hear from people that tried to install Evolution or Kdepim in Easy Debian and synced it with Google calendar and Contacts

Paai (Hans Paijmans)

peio 2010-04-15 08:12

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Hello easy debian users!

I'm currently running easy debian installed from the extras repos, with debian-m5-v2 image.
I saw on qole.org that the debian-m5-v3b.img.ext2.lzma image is available.
How can I use it? Is there a "changelog" for that image?

Do I just donwload the v3 image, and launch the debian image installer, or is there a file to edit before?

I'm sorry if it's a dumb question but this is a long thread and I'm getting lost :) and again thanks a lot for easy debian it's awesome :)

SubCore 2010-04-15 09:40

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peio (Post 611445)
Do I just donwload the v3 image, and launch the debian image installer, or is there a file to edit before?

yes, that should work if you just place the file in /home/user/MyDocs
or you can do it this way.

changelog has been posted here.

paai 2010-04-16 05:43

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I find that the interface, especially of PCman, is often unreponsive. When I touch buttons or icons, the color changes but nothing happens and the cpu monitor in left upper region shows no increased activity. Is this a known issue?

Paai

qole 2010-04-16 06:11

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
paai:
That unresponsiveness issue is not known to me. When the interface is unresponsive for me, it is because the cpu is working hard.
As for your other questions: I have tried Evolution but it is very difficult to use due to the layout of the app and the low resolution of the N900's screen. I have not used it to synch with anything.

paai 2010-04-16 10:13

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 612973)
paai:
That unresponsiveness issue is not known to me. When the interface is unresponsive for me, it is because the cpu is working hard...
.

After playing some more with it, I have the impression that giving short, sharp taps work better.

mail_e36 2010-04-16 15:45

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Qole,

Thanks again for a great product. The question I have revolves around installing GCC within the Easy Debian image. It seems the installation fails both via the CLI (apt-get) and via the Synatptic Package Manager.

The error reads:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
gcc: Depends: gcc-4.3 (>= 4.3.2-1) but it is not going to be installed.
Recommends: libc6-dev

I tried installing libc6 (whatever that is), but apt-get did not let me install that either.

Any thoughts and/or solutions for this would be much appreciated.

Thank you

rebhana 2010-04-16 18:48

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mail_e36 (Post 613633)
The question I have revolves around installing GCC within the Easy Debian image. It seems the installation fails both via the CLI (apt-get) and via the Synatptic Package Manager.

The error reads:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
gcc: Depends: gcc-4.3 (>= 4.3.2-1) but it is not going to be installed.
Recommends: libc6-dev

I tried installing libc6 (whatever that is), but apt-get did not let me install that either.

The problem is that Easy Debian is a combination of packages from lenny (stable) and squeeze (testing), but squeeze is deactivated by default. You should activate squeeze by uncommenting the corresponding line in /etc/apt/sources.list (in Debian chroot). Then run "apt-get update" before installing gcc. (But don't run "apt-get upgrade" as this would replace all lenny packages by squeeze ones and this could break certain things. Btw, is that still an issue, qole?) After that I'd recommend commenting out the squeeze repository again.

Solderer 2010-04-17 10:01

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Hi,
i have installd the easy debian pack and run the installer.
I downloaded the big image 3 times but the installer always deteckted it als corrupted ? The downlod seemed smooth
any ideas ?
i will try it with the broserdownload now.
Greetings
Solderer

paai 2010-04-17 14:15

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 612973)
paai:
That unresponsiveness issue is not known to me. When the interface is unresponsive for me, it is because the cpu is working hard.
As for your other questions: I have tried Evolution but it is very difficult to use due to the layout of the app and the low resolution of the N900's screen. I have not used it to synch with anything.

Yes, I get stuck in the setup screens... Even copied the .gconf/apps/evolution directories to debbie, but no luck so far. Evolution refuses to continue without setup.

A pity, because I wanted to start 'evolution -c calendar' and take my chances, but still this d*mned configuration screen...

Kdepim is the KDE 3 version, which has no obvious sync with Gcalendar.

Dousan 2010-04-17 22:12

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Is there a chance that this could work on the N900 in easy debian Gimp and haw to install if yes?

GIMP OpenRaster support

* file-ora – Plug-in that allows you to open and save MyPaints native file format with GIMP

http://mypaint.intilinux.com/?page_id=6

qole 2010-04-18 06:47

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Hello beta testers!

I have made almost all of the changes requested by rebhana / hstende, and I have uploaded a new image file. I really need some testers to download and run it, ESPECIALLY if you have localisation issues with LXDE (i.e. the "Information" problem) or you are using rebhana's "su user - " method of accessing the chroot.

Download this file: debian-m5-v3c.img.ext2.lzma

If you are extracting on-device, the suggestion in the bug report that I started but can only barely follow now (it has gotten extremely technical) is to extract your lzma files in /home/user/MyDocs/core-dumps because it is much faster (lma says 3 minutes for v3b!).

rebhana 2010-04-18 07:08

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qole, I get 403: Forbidden when trying to download debian-m5-v3c.img.ext2.lzma

rebhana 2010-04-18 07:22

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan (Post 615292)
Is there a chance that this could work on the N900 in easy debian Gimp and haw to install if yes?

GIMP OpenRaster support

* file-ora – Plug-in that allows you to open and save MyPaints native file format with GIMP

http://mypaint.intilinux.com/?page_id=6

I don't see why it shouldn't work (but haven't tried myself). Mypaint 0.8.2 is in the squeeze repository, which you have to activate first (uncomment in /etc/apt/sources.list in Debian chroot). See http://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian#In...g_Applications.

Dousan 2010-04-18 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 615658)
I don't see why it shouldn't work (but haven't tried myself). Mypaint 0.8.2 is in the squeeze repository, which you have to activate first (uncomment in /etc/apt/sources.list in Debian chroot). See http://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian#In...g_Applications.

Thanks for link once again rebhana :)

Can't seem to find this line in the sources.list:
#deb http://http.at.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free
It looks like this in the sources.list
#deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free
I have downloaded the file.ora from the link i provided, its a python program is there a way to install that so i dont have to go about the easy chroot thing you pointed to :confused:

qole 2010-04-18 15:18

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Link has been fixed. Please try again!

debian-m5-v3c.img.ext2.lzma

Dousan: The line in the sources list is correct, rebhana just used a local mirror instead of the US mirror when adding that info to the wiki.

Dousan 2010-04-18 16:40

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 616188)
Dousan: The line in the sources list is correct, rebhana just used a local mirror instead of the US mirror when adding that info to the wiki.

Thanks for the info qole :)

Have located the mypaint file now. Just have one question: It looks like it's the whole mypaint program, is that correct? Cause i thought it would be the file-ora plugin for the Gimp to use in easy debian, that was what i was after from the beginning (correct me if i'm wrong about the mypaint). I have the mypaint app installed thanks to anders_gud. I just cant open the files from mypaint other than in mypaint. So I searched the web and found that plugin for gimp, but its for the pc. I thought it might work on the N900 :D So that is basically my question can I get that plugin to work on my N900 or is the mypaint that rebhana pointed me to the same plugin or is that mypaint program able to open .ora extensions? Yes i'm slightly confused :D

rebhana 2010-04-18 20:44

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan (Post 616293)
Have located the mypaint file now. Just have one question: It looks like it's the whole mypaint program, is that correct? Cause i thought it would be the file-ora plugin for the Gimp to use in easy debian, that was what i was after from the beginning (correct me if i'm wrong about the mypaint). I have the mypaint app installed thanks to anders_gud. I just cant open the files from mypaint other than in mypaint. So I searched the web and found that plugin for gimp, but its for the pc. I thought it might work on the N900 :D So that is basically my question can I get that plugin to work on my N900 or is the mypaint that rebhana pointed me to the same plugin or is that mypaint program able to open .ora extensions? Yes i'm slightly confused :D

As I said, I haven't tried anything, so I just pointed you to the mypaint package in squeeze, but that you already have as you say. I see that there are additional gimp packages in squeeze containing just plug-ins which you could try. If you know the name of the plugin, you can also search on http://packages.debian.org#search_contents


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