Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

I've already got a keyset for the Roomba, although I've been told that it isn't working. :( I've also gotten an e-mail from someone hoping to attach an N900 to a Lego RC car that uses IR; I've got documentation for it, but I'm still trying to determine whether I can legally use those docs to create a keyset in Pierogi. (Also, his project is much better suited for use with LIRC than with Pierogi.) But yeah, in theory, robots would work fine. :)

(But I would think most remotely-controllable robots these days would be using wi-fi or bluetooth for communications, wouldn't they?)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Despite lego being *itchy about... Well, everything, I don't see any legally possible way to block anyone from recording IR signals from their remote and implementing it in other software. If in doubt, you can call it "some plastic bricks remote control set", and other users will kindly report, that it seems to work with certain lego vehicles *too* ;)

/Estel

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Yes, that's my understanding, given the way in which universal IR devices have been built over the last few decades. I really don't want to get into any legal tangles, so I'm pretty much sticking to configuration data derived in that manner...

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

User report: An old Mitsubishi projector is uncontrollable with every Mitsubishi keyset in Pierogi. Sorry, no model type, I had only two minutes to try it out...
Anyway, I really like the app. Now after the lesson is over I can just touch my phone, and don't have walk to the digital board.

Also, I've got a Nokia N95 8GB RM-320, and there's a remote control app for the built in IrDA port.
I dunno what database is it using, but it's internet based. There are some built in keysets too(which work with the samsung TV's) but you can search in the internet database too. They have Toshiba air conditioner keysets too(and again, bad luck, exactly on the day, I've installed irRemote, the air conditioner stopped working)...
On the site they marked this site as database source: http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin...to&db=discrete
But you can also manually define and upload a keyset, which others can rate if it's working or not.
Pierogi is absolutely easier to use, more sophisticated and advanced than this payware, the keyset selector is a mess in Psiloc's work.
I hope you'll find some useful information/idea.

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Yeah, unfortunately, my usual sources just don't have a lot of Mitsubishi projectors. :(

Yup, I've checked out Psiloc's "irRemote" website already. They've got a nice selection of config files, but the licensing terms they give don't seem compatible with an open-source project, so I've not been using them as a source for data...

"RemoteCentral" is also one of my main sources for keyset data. They have fewer codes defined than either LIRC or hifi-remotes, and their data is messier, but they do sometimes have codes for models that can't be found elsewhere -- and yeah, they've got some of the only Mistubishi projector codes I can find. Unfortunately, some of their Mitsubishi codes are truncated, and so are unusable. :(

Thanks for the kind words, and please do tell me if some keys are missing or incorrect for the projectors that do work! :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

The closest I have found to a Mitsubishi HC1500 is an HD1000. Copernicus, is this one of your Mitsubishi projector sets? If not, it can be found here: http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/mitsubishi/HD1000

Quick question also: Is it possible to capture IR codes with a computer with an IR sensor, something like a Thinkpad?

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Yup, that one happens to be "Mitsubishi Projector Keyset 1". :)

Absolutely; that is how all of the LIRC config files are created (as well as a fair number of the ones on hifi-remotes, although most of those folks have connected a "learning remote" up to their computers). There are a number of ways to do it, but the one I'm most familiar with is to use the LIRC server itself. It is, of course, designed to run on Linux, but there are ports available for Windows and Mac as well...

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Pierogi 1.1.24 is now heading into the extras-devel repository, with the "Remote Flash" feature. I've gotta say, it was a heck of a lot easier to implement than I had expected; connecting to the /dev/video0 device driver is not a lot different than to the /dev/lirc0 driver, and as far as I can tell, it's always up, so I don't need a sudoer-enabled script to "modprobe" for it. In short, I just open the driver, tell it to "strobe" the flash leds, and close the driver.

I was even able to open it in "non-blocking" mode, so the flash can strobe even if there's another camera app running! (Not sure why you'd want to do that, but it's nice not to have to step on the toes of other apps.)

I've set the LEDs to their "maximum brightness" level, and I'm leaving them on for half of the "maximum timeout" value. (If I'm reading it right, the max timeout value is a half a second, so I'm setting the strobe on for 1/4 of a second.) This seems to work fine with my test N900; but I really don't know enough about the camera hardware as a whole to determine exactly what the best parameters would be.

I should note that you'll want to hold down the "open shutter" button to get the whole quarter second; if you release the button after less than 1/4 second, the LEDs will immediately turn off.

(Also, I should say that the strobe-test code from that website looks a little dangerous; when I query the hardware to see what the minimum and maximum brightness values are for the flash, it returns a minimum of "12" and a maximum of "19". However, the code on that page ignores those values and sets the brightness to "25". I have no clue whether that could damage your hardware, but it certainly makes me nervous...)

Also in this release, a first pass at keysets for Insignia. As always, be prepared for bugs (and tell me when you find them)! Thanks.

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I see, thank you. In that case, they must have completely changed the IR codes between the HD1000 and HC1500.


OK, this is good! I have a number of Thinkpads (I won't discuss the extent of my fondness for classic IBM Thinkpads here), and most of them are running Linux. As a matter of fact, I'm typing this post on a Thinkpad X24 running Ubuntu which has an IR port. I'll look into setting things up, and I'll follow up on this soon. Hopefully a working Mitsubishi HC1500 set will be ready soon. :)

EDIT: Thank you for your new release of Pierogi!

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

That is quite possible, some manufacturers do start over with a new remote each time they release a new product. Of course, there is also the possibility that the config file is messed up, and the possibility that I made a huge mistake somewhere in translating it. :)

Ah, I gotta agree, the Thinkpad was quite possibly the best laptop made, back in the day. :)

After a bit of googling around, I located a Thinkpad wiki page with some instructions on how to do it. It looks like you'll need to set some things up in the BIOS to allow the LIRC to access the IR port, and even after that, the range might be restricted to less than half a meter, but it looks like it will work...

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Yes, definitely the best! Modular designs, easy to repair (and very well documented via the Hardware Maintenance Manuals), extremely compatible with Linux, very reliable. I also happen to like their timeless design where function dictates form (no useless trim or colored plastics). :)

Excellent, thank you. I'll have a go at this during the weekend.

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Yes, "Shutter" widget supports Canon, Nikon, Pentax and Olympus cameras.

Wow, thanks a lot for the "Remote flash" feature!! :-)

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Hey, if you don't mind, please let me know if the remote flash works correctly for you; I wasn't sure how long the flash needs to be on, or whether it needs to pause to wait for the remote camera to open its shutter. Thanks!

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It works! I've done two rapid tests. In a room with fluorescent lamp. One with ISO 100, f3.5 and 2 seconds exposure. The other with ISO 100, f3.5 too and 0,8 second exposure. Two pictures each, one picture with the remote flash option and one without it. You can see my hand in these pictures heh, these are with 2 seconds exposure.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3668/8...251bcb794c.jpg


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5453/8...54f537a782.jpg


I think this can be very useful in some situations as fill light or secondary light for Nature morte - Still life, portraits... even being the LED flash a bit weak.
Thanks again!

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Any update for this wonderfull app?












Best Regards,

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
just a day or more pierogi 1.1.24 got realesed:) its on devlopment all the time .
Just try and report back if you find devices that work or wont work :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Where can i find ver 1.1.24 mine still ver 1.1.15? thank you.

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Here: http://maemo.org/packages/view/pierogi/

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

It can also be found in the extras-devel repository, if you're willing to enable that repository in your application manager. :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

A small update is now on its way up to extras-devel. Version 1.1.25 includes a couple of UI updates: I've broken the air conditioner panels into a "Standard AC" set and a "Stateful AC" set; the two methods of interacting with air conditioners are so different, they really do deserve to be treated as entirely separate sets of interfaces. Also, the carrier frequency and duty cycle controls have been moved out of "Advanced Settings" and into the Preferences window (and I've removed the Advanced Settings panel entirely).

I've also reset the default duty cycle back to 33%. The vast majority of remote controls use that duty cycle, and I don't think having it set to 50% was of any benefit. (But if you do find problems with this setting, please let me know!)

Also in this update, a first pass at keysets for Apex, General Electric, Majestic, and Minolta; and more keysets for Emerson, Insignia, and Strong.

I've also now set up a Github account for Pierogi. For some reason, I've lost the ability to push files into the Maemo Garage repository; I've tried just about everything I can think of, but constantly get the same error... In any case, the files in the Garage are now months out of date. You can view the latest Pierogi source code by going to:

https://github.com/jpietrzak8/Pierogi

As always, beware of bugs! Thanks.

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Copernicus, it's a little off-topic, but I got wild idea, that came to my mind, while playing with your new "remote flash" feature.

You're (obviously) aware, that continuous LED light (flashlight) got much lower power ranges, than ones used during flashing. Now, I noticed, that by repeatedly pressing "open cover" button in Pierogi, I can produce almost-continuous flashlight, with a little stroboscopic effect due to duty cycle. Still, overall, it produces *much* better (brighter, reaching further) flashlight, than "normal" flashlight mode. Now, whats the idea about:

Simple application, lets call it "flashlight-ultra", which would repeatedly light diodes in "flash" mode, and a small slider that would control frequency of stroboscopic effect. "further right" setting of slider would result in longest possible (and safe) duty cycle, i.e. diodes flashing like now in Pierogi, staying on for the longest time, and staying "off" for the shortest. Now, the more to the left, the shorter "on" duty would be, and longer "off" cycle. It is even possible to easily calculate resulting strobo frequency, and displaying it, while slider is moved.

I've tested running diodes in most demanding stroboscopic light for 2 hours straight, and they were not much hotter, than after 2 hours of "normal" flashlight. By comparison, subjective illumination in dark room was much better than vanilla lighter, though.

OTOH, lower frequency flashing could be used for other purposes, like emergency signaling/morse code/etc.
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I've seen similar programs in android world - most of them have some warnings about possible damage to diodes when abusing them on highest settings, but in reality, I haven't seen or witnessed any hardware damage (except for situations of cheating hardware to light diodes 100% continuously at flash power levels, but that's different story).
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Again, It's just a wild idea, and I know you're, probably, already pretty busy with Pierogi - it's just something that I thought might be useful for some people. Maybe good candidate for upcoming Coding Competition, too?

/Estel

// Edit

Just be aware, that if you decide to do it, you're, probably, going to get feature request of programmable morse code blinker, pretty soon ;) Wouldn't it be fine thing, to write message in normal letter, and have N900 blink it in morse code, via flashlight, automagically? ;)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Well, actually, that should be trivial to implement, from what I've seen. There's almost no work involved in playing around with the Flash LED hardware. :) The only thing I would worry about is that I really don't have any clue myself as to the limits of the hardware...

Nah, this would only take a few minutes. In fact, it only took a few minutes. A new pasta product, "Lanterne", is now making it's way into the extras-devel repository; it's pretty much just a tiny experimental app that allows you to turn the Flash LEDs on and off in "torch" mode, and to run the high-powered flash as a strobelight (for as long as you hold down the "strobe flash" button). I've got spin-boxes set up to let you play with the various parameters.

To any folks out there who want to play with this app, be warned! I've tried to limit the parameters to values that should be safe, but I make no guarantees of such. Use this app at your own risk!

Eh, that probably wouldn't be too hard to do either. :) :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

So copernicus that was easy na:)
now please can you make the app so with the option to use light sensor:)
i.e here powercuts are worse what i want is the leds and screen light up as soon as the light goes i.e like the lamps:)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

:) At least for now, I'd prefer to avoid creating any automated tool that plays with the flash LEDs, particularly because I don't really know what their limits are. I'd like to make sure that the user is right there to switch things off if something starts going wrong...

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

I ment it optional in the program:)
you can try your hands later on let me recive the n900 stuck somewhere in courier:)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

May I suggest a seperate topic for Lanterne?

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Hmm. Yeah, I know this doesn't fit in the Pierogi thread, but does yet another flashlight app actually deserve its own topic? :) :)

Yeah, alright, I'll put one together... :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Need control PS2 plzzz help :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

You could implement Sony home cinemas
LG TV works great though

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

I test all sony app in periogi but .....noting ...can a help me for this ?

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Get close to your TV and test again. This is explained on the wiki pages

http://wiki.maemo.org/Pierogi

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Sorry for the late response. :) There is a keyset for the Playstation infrared port, that should (in theory) work for both the PS2 and PS3. (I've filed it as "Sony Playstation Keyset 1"). There's even a panel to support the special keys, which you should be able to find under the name "Playstation" in the panels menu. Please let me know if this works for you, I don't have a Playstation myself to test against...

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I'll take another look at Sony; I would think, though, that you'd be able to control most of a home cinema through the existing TV keysets. Sony does an amazing job of keeping its remote controls compatible between devices (more so than any other manufacturer), so most Sony remotes will work fairly well with most Sony devices. Please let me know if you've got a device that isn't supported!

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Copernicus your app is awsome really :D
It is useful, and I have trolled so many people that doesn't know much about how ir works and that it is possible to use your phone as a remote control! :p
Well I have only a question(sorry if this is answered before...). Can we add our own ir codes(written by us or found from the internet) and if yes how can we do this? :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Ah, right now, Pierogi has no way to add your own IR codes. Pierogi started out more as my own experiment to play with combining similar families of IR codes into a hierarchy; as such, the way I'm storing the data is kind of idiosyncratic (and, I've gotta admit, I'm still tweaking it), so I've not really wanted to expose it to the user just yet.

I should note, however, that the LIRC server is fully supported on the N900 (and has been the main tool that other N900 remote control software uses), so if you're already comfortable with LIRC config files, you can easily use that instead. :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Is there a plan to push another "stable" version to extras in the future?

You maybe aware I am trying to contact maintainers and push worthy packages through to testing where possible. If not see here ...
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90981

I appreciate the current version is a work in progress and it's up to you what your plans are for Pierogi; but I thought i'd ask ;)

Either way, nice to hear from you again, hopefully we will see some pasta shaped updates soon :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Nope, I wasn't aware. :) (I've been hiding under a rock for a while now...) Let me put my reworking of the Pierogi documentation back onto the front-burner, and try to polish it up for a proper release. Thanks!

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Thanks Copernicus. You made a great app for N900.

I have a Yamaha RX-V596 AV receiver. Although it isn't on Pierogi's device list, I can use Yamaha RX-395-RDS profile to control some of the functions of the device (like Volume Up/down, power, mute, sleep, input sources switch...).
The only problem I have is that I can't access setting menu as the profile doesn't has SET MENU button. Can you help me by creating a RX-V596 keysets?

The receiver named differently in global market. Some are called DSP A5 or HTR5250 ( http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin...amaha/htr5450/ ,similar in name). The ID number of the remote is RAV210 ( I found http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/yamaha/RAV207 , similar in name, I don't know if it work), and the remote part number is V4297600.

update： I tested http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/yamaha/RAV207 with lirc and found most of the codes do work with my V596. If the following code can be added to Yamaha Audio Keyset 2, then almost all function will work.

AMP/TEST 0x857A
AMP/EFFECT 0x56A9
AMP/SET_MENU 0x9C63
AMP/TIME_LEVEL 0x8679
AMP/PRG_PLUS 0x58A7
AMP/PRG_MINUS 0x59A6

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Please can you add the remote control of the sony camera alpha 58 ?
thanks :)

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

Still doing requests? I added a davdav's request and a request of my own to the wiki