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coderus 2019-04-09 20:30

Re: [WIP] App / Tweak: patchmanager a system-wide patching system + homescreen tweak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1556057)
Storeman would be a better place, agreed.

I was wondering why Amboss had a problem with PM that was solved by pkcon refresh but it turns out I just did not read his post properly. Sorry.

cuz pkcon cant install any extra depends from repo because of outdated repositories. also: current storeman uses wrong "update" method, instead of "install" one, causing much worse problems.

Amboss 2019-04-10 09:01

Re: [WIP] App / Tweak: patchmanager a system-wide patching system + homescreen tweak
 
Yes, sorry. I tend to post confusing questions.

Anyway, since first part of my question was answered and was a problem of storeman or even jolla itself: The second part of the question was, why PM3 needs a bluetooth kill switch (I guess this is what the name of it implies) as dependency. Is this for the "reset services" thingy?

And third: Why is it still called beta. Is it considered less stable than PM2?

coderus 2019-04-10 09:24

Re: [WIP] App / Tweak: patchmanager a system-wide patching system + homescreen tweak
 
>> why PM3 needs a bluetooth kill switch
it doesnt. see: "current storeman uses wrong "update" method, instead of "install" one, causing much worse problems."

>> Why is it still called beta
because i dont have enough time to kill all the bugs and test everything from scratch

olf 2019-04-11 13:57

Re: [WIP] App / Tweak: patchmanager a system-wide patching system + homescreen tweak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amboss (Post 1556064)
Yes, sorry. I tend to post confusing questions.
[...]
And third: Why is it still called beta. Is it considered less stable than PM2?

Nobody really knows (presumably including @coderus), as Patchmanager 3 lacks testers carrying out proper tests with a focus on reproducibility and providing comprehensive feedback / bug reports beyond "it does not work".

E.g. take a look at PM's issue tracker and you will realise that only very few ever provided proper feedback.

And while properly filed complaints ("issue reports") have been quite rare, @coderus never received any code contribution ("Pull Request") for Patchmanager 3, AFAICS.

So if you want speed up the development of PM3, do something besides asking / complaining!

P.S.: For me recent PM3 versions are behaving "better" than the last PM2, but YMMV.

Amboss 2019-04-11 14:55

Re: [WIP] App / Tweak: patchmanager a system-wide patching system + homescreen tweak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by olf (Post 1556091)
So if you want speed up the development of PM3, do something besides asking / complaining!

I was just curious and also wanted to judge the risk if I ise it. Thanks for the insights by both of you.

As for testing and bug reporting: I would love to help out and by that give back some to those investing their precious time. I'm afraid, this is out of my limits at the time. I know it sounds like a common excuse, but job, family and being financial council of an association (is this what Vereinsvorstand translates?) eats most of my time. I didn't even manage to give promised feedback to PureMaps (sorry @rinigus).

Ancelad 2019-04-11 19:56

Re: [WIP] App / Tweak: patchmanager a system-wide patching system + homescreen tweak
 
By the way my Inoi R7 is passed away, so I'm not community-member anymore.

peterleinchen 2019-04-11 20:20

Re: [WIP] App / Tweak: patchmanager a system-wide patching system + homescreen tweak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancelad (Post 1556105)
By the way my Inoi R7 is passed away, so I'm not community-member anymore.

Which would be another big loss :(

Only Ordroid... or Pear device? :eek:
No Maemo, MeeGo, SFOS at all? :confused:

Ancelad 2019-04-11 20:26

Re: [WIP] App / Tweak: patchmanager a system-wide patching system + homescreen tweak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1556106)
Which would be another big loss :(

Only Ordroid... or Pear device? :eek:
No Maemo, MeeGo, SFOS at all? :confused:

Mi Mix 3 as main device :)

cvp 2019-04-11 21:58

Re: [WIP] App / Tweak: patchmanager a system-wide patching system + homescreen tweak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancelad (Post 1556107)
Mi Mix 3 as main device :)

pls tell us, that you use an Mi Mix 3 with SFOS :(

Ancelad 2019-04-11 22:02

Re: [WIP] App / Tweak: patchmanager a system-wide patching system + homescreen tweak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1556110)
pls tell us, that you use an Mi Mix 3 with SFOS :(

Nope... :D


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