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Re: N9 hits FCC???

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Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 1005351)

It is Maemo 6 Its Not MeeGo, no matter how nokia try and spin it

Are you a developer? Can you give me one library which is not the same as in Meego?

Re: N9 hits FCC???

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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1005378)

I remember this, too. OTOH, a "terminal" as we have on the N900 is just another application. I don't care much if they have it installed out of the box... Some say it confuses end users, so it'd be better to drop it. As long as you can easily install it from a repository, what's the difference?

Agree. The xterm is bigfail on handset anyway.

Hint: someone should do a app better terminalapp in QtQuick for Meego handset :-)

Re: N9 hits FCC???

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Originally Posted by tswindell (Post 1005413)

There is certainly a Harmatten Terminal application, as it's being open sourced for N900 MeeGo Developer Edition in order to replace the current standard xterm we use, that doesn't work very well with the VKB. There is a possibility that the Terminal program isn't installed by default (though I find this unlikely) but it probably will be hidden away. I also here it's quite good. So lets see :)

what? when was this added to N900de sounds promising :-) Is this added to repository.maemo.org/meego/n900-de image or do I have to install it manually?

Re: N9 hits FCC???

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1005720)

Are you a developer? Can you give me one library which is not the same as in Meego?

I do not need to be a developer and rattle of package names to know Nokia are about to sell end users another dead end OS.
Its OK saying install MeeGo.com OS on it but for 99% of end users that will not do when they will have to give up stores and maps and the like.
And I don't need to be developer to read up on all these things and know the differences.

Re: N9 hits FCC???

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Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 1005728)

Well I am not developing that much for the meego community. but I am following Qt progress, mailinglists and tweeking with my N900.

Most of the stuff on N900 is the same as in Meego and the rest of the Linux community.

Soo I am sure Harmattan is the same. You maybe will not have access o the lower level drivers (GFX etc) and some apps. But who will peek on those anyways?

But if you prefer openess what is there for alternatives today?

Re: N9 hits FCC???

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1005731)

Well I am not developing that much for the meego community. but I am following Qt progress, mailinglists and tweeking with my N900.

Most of the stuff on N900 is the same as in Meego and the rest of the Linux community.

Soo I am sure Harmattan is the same. You will not have access o the lover level drivers and some apps.

But if you prefer openess what is there for alternatives today?

Tell me why I don't know what I'm talking about you nob?
Looks like I know more than you look at uninformed crap you was coming out with recently.
Harmattan is now fully MeeGo?
where did nokia ever say they will .debs?
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...7&postcount=38
lol

Re: N9 hits FCC???

Before your EDIT:

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1005731)

Well I am not developing that much in the community but one is for sure. But I can se now that you not know what you are talking about.

Like you have any clue of what you are talking about?

Re: N9 hits FCC???

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Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 1005735)

Just let him be ;)

Re: N9 hits FCC???

This Post on the Mailing list answers all the things you got wrong in last link i posted.
http://maemo.org/community/maemo-com...n_posts_page=3

Re: N9 hits FCC???

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Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 1005735)

Tell me why I don't know what I'm talking about you nob?

Changed my post above at the same time you replayed Sorry..

But you dont give me any good example on what is not Meego in harmattan and thats why I dont take it "serious".

Here is some examples for you why I disagree with you :-)

Both Harmattan and Meego are using:

Linux

QTMobiltity/Qt(Quick)

"Lowerlever API" DBus to communicate with the hardware

Opono

differences that we know of already:

The UI is not libmeegotouch cause its deprecated. Instead its "Nokias" qt-components. But companys ARE alllowed too use theyr own UI layer instead of the reference design. But I am sure most of the UI will be opensourced VERY soon, atleast what I have heard of in the mailinglist)

Debian instead of RPM package manager (this is the only question why its not can be called Meego compliant AFAIK)

Some that may be there and wil be closedsource, same goes here companys are allowed to include closed apps and still call the device Meego compliant:

OviMaps

GFX driver

some drivers

Adobe crap Flash

Microsoft crap Skype

crap like DRM

And yes for many endusers this closed apps are impoortant. Personally I dont give a **** if they're not included in "DE version". Its up to the enduser to decide. If they want closed apps and full "support" they should by some other device. Maybe a WP7 phone or Iphone? Or maybe Android?

As I have said before NO company will EVER release a fully open device! And at the same time have closed apps included. And dont come say Android is fully opensource cause its NOT!

This is not only the Nokias decisions this is also Adobe, Microsoft and the chipmanufactors decisions. Bussiness as usual.