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Just take a look at other windows phones. look at the one to the right. almost have half of the screen is not used. That will for sure affect nokia stock price :D

http://i47.tinypic.com/2gtpv13.jpg

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i watched the keynote/ presentation. What Nokia brought to the table was so called pureview,wireless charging the design,and puremotion,rest was Windows 8. Okay nothing really groundbreaking!, if they would of released that leaked MeeGo lauta,world would of been turned on their heads! I see Windows 8 is modern but really its not as enticing :/ i live in America and its really sad after what 2-3 years Windows phone hasn't amounted to much?
Im also an N9 owner and if this phone was sold worldwide Nokia could perhaps be within a better financial standing.

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Well, one thing is for certain:

I've never read a tech blogger excited about the news a Nokia/Windows phone bring. For the N9 and N900, I have. Not going to say that it wouldn't fail to bring Maemo to the mass market. But Windows 7.x did fail Nokia.

That's a tangent to this topic, cause Windows 7.x1) was what brought the stock prices this far down.

Here's how last week ended. NOK / SE / dollars:

http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...3dd99d66b0.png



1) Actually it was Elops horrendous implementation of the Windows strategy, to be more precise.

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its what will happen around chrismas how nokia succes with new phones...

if selling doesn't go up, Elop is history next year. However even if he gets fired its to late change strategy now. So there is only one way for them and that is not loose more customers.

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Why is it always "too late" to change strategy? Granted, it's difficult and the odds are against it but wasn't Apple very nearly bankrupt and doing so badly it was living off of business welfare funding from the government and ready to shut its doors JUST before hiring Jobs back in and COMPLETELY changing its strategies? You can ALWAYS change your strategy and turn it around. It's just a matter of whether you're making a SMART new strategy. The Windows Phone strategy was already a losing strategy from the beginning--it was already the worst platform with the lowest market share with a low trend and the tightest restrictions on what hardware it can be put on. How COULD Nokia think that was a winning strategy? I always had the sense that Windows Phone was on other OEM's as a matter of obligating some contractual or patent obligations to Microsoft. They never seemed very enthusiastic about it. How could they? Their hands were tied.

Nokia needs to abandon Windows Phone pronto. It's not like this is the first time they've done that.

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I think it was two things that made up Nokia's mind. These two things would never be available for any other company so no point in make an example. Firstly, nokia was market leaders with an overwhelming market share. No way they want to sink to One of many Android vendors. Secondly, Microsoft paying them Hugh a mounts yearly during the transition period.

It most have been an easy choice when the destination was made to ditch symbian and meego.

And no, Nokia's straight will not be decided around Christmas. As long as they growing and the have money there is till room improvements.

Android and IOS needed several years to grow.

Let's see what happens when windows 9 comes out and the contracts ends with Microsoft. That is when the call is made. Good, Bad or ugly?

After that change strategy or keep going!

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I wonder how this announcment will hit nokia stock...

http://www.livestream.com/applefansite

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^ This.

Exactly what I've been thinking. Nobody but WPCentral seems to be excited about WP8. And even then, it seems forced.

Worse part, there's 7 million - I think that's the last numbers that were given to us - that cannot upgrade to WP8. Instead, they have to settle for WP7.8, which will not have all of the same features and there's no upgrade path.

The curiosity around the N900 and N9 is nothing like it was for the WP7 devices. People wanted to read more about Maemo/MeeGo. What made it different. What hardware was running underneath.

With WP7, everybody knew it was running the same hardware, maybe a tweak to the display and form factor. But the question remained... why would anybody care?

WP8 is going to be same. Why would anybody - reader, enthusiast, geek, early adopter, Nokia fan - care about WP8?

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Danramos, its to late because nokia has only a chance in euopean. And what is the alternative? Going android!? tell me WHY would any european buy nokia android when they have others? An if you mean go back to meego thats not an solution now, what devs would makes apps when ashole elop has killed intrests. So again even if most of us dont like it right now wp is the only way for them to take some users from android/ios in europen... I guess in asia and usa they will be very small player.. But summary is Elop is biggest fail :( if he had been fired in feb 11 it had may have a chance to change but now I doubt... And it seems investors also doubt because wtf hasn't they fired him long ago? :/

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Oh my, oh my. Again: what is Nokia trying to do- make profit. How will they make profit: they need idiot proof devices that are part of a good ecosystem. Was meego or Maemo a contender: Never. Nokia is not a software company so what they do: they join the next logical system. Elop did the best thing he could do.