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ZogG 2015-11-25 18:09

Re: Alternative history: What if Jolla never existed?
 
As everyone are asking for different form factor devices and everyone wants something different. Why not take the TOH idea a little bit further. Check the C.H.I.P. (there is even thread on TMO) and the PocketC.H.I.P. Basically you can have some "soul" part (like chip) that can be connected into different HW (see it as PocketC.H.I.P.) and everyone gets what he wants with single board and various extensions(to netbook, tablet, phone and etc).

Venemo 2015-11-25 18:29

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Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 1489674)
Trackpoint! Trackpoint!

As I was saying this is one of the things the microPCs got right. It is surprisingly usable one-handed (for anything other than a right click), even for pointing into microscopic sized web links (where capacitive screens suck at or required two hands). I even made a small X program that would scroll the current active focused window if you tried to move the mouse past the edge of the screen.

I'd be okay with an N810 if it had modern hardware. I never quite understood trackpoints.

herpderp 2015-11-25 19:26

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I'm sorry if this is offtopic/irrelevant, but if you need to be productive and do work while traveling on a public transport you should seriously take a look at your life and your priorities...

javispedro 2015-11-25 19:33

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Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1489748)
I'm sorry if this is offtopic/irrelevant, but if you need to be productive and do work while traveling on a public transport you should seriously take a look at your life and your priorities...

Why? Maybe you'd prefer I'd just waste an hour or two per day doing nothing instead?

There's people out there who actually enjoy what they do for work.

herpderp 2015-11-25 19:36

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Of course, but a public transport is far from ideal for any mental work. Maybe read a book or listen to some music while commuting?
I just can't imagine doing any serious work that is so noisy and moving etc.

Feathers McGraw 2015-11-25 19:39

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Originally Posted by Fellfrosch (Post 1489683)
I'm not sure what to do if Jolla drop Adroid support. on one side I would be sad, because there are some apps which I really don't want to miss: Offline wikipedia, Proper Offline Navigation and it gives you some flexibility. So yes, as long as the ecosystem isn't really big I would defintely miss the Android support.

I think the android support is more of a hindrance than a help tbh.

Some of the apps you mentioned (like offline wikipedia) don't seem like they would take a long time to create for sailfish, but the availability of android alternatives means there's less motivation to write one.

This leads to the "sailfish has no apps" complaint. Meanwhile, people are getting a worse experience running android apps within Sailfish (two completely different interfaces) and are constantly reminded that they could just cut out the hacky alien dalvik and use android directly. At the same time, Jolla picks up flak for all the imperfections in AD, and spends a lot of time fixing them (which also raises complaints).

I don't see the sense in relying on non-free Android support to be part of the Sailfish experience when it could stop working pretty quickly if Jolla stop developing it. Not saying I don't understand why individuals use it, but it's basically a tragedy of the commons - we'd all be better off in the end if nobody used it.

javispedro 2015-11-25 20:51

Re: Alternative history: What if Jolla never existed?
 
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Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1489753)
Of course, but a public transport is far from ideal for any mental work. Maybe read a book or listen to some music while commuting?
I just can't imagine doing any serious work that is so noisy and moving etc.

what if that "serious work" is actually more entertaining than reading a book?

i am not saying everyone should love what they work on, nor that I do. but if they do, why the artificial barriers?


P.s. and I consider this fully on topic, since it is the main raison d'être for the entire "mobile computing" thing: to be able to do stuff on the go.

I wrote this while on public transport...

daperl 2015-11-25 21:12

Re: Alternative history: What if Jolla never existed?
 
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Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1489753)
Of course, but a public transport is far from ideal for any mental work. Maybe read a book or listen to some music while commuting?
I just can't imagine doing any serious work that is so noisy and moving etc.

There are plenty of us that can problem solve at a high level under many different conditions, sometimes in the form of daydreaming. It's core to our person. You don't sound like one of those.

aegis 2015-11-25 21:17

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Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1489753)
Of course, but a public transport is far from ideal for any mental work. Maybe read a book or listen to some music while commuting?
I just can't imagine doing any serious work that is so noisy and moving etc.

Speak for yourself. Perhaps it's a knack you develop but I've been known to switch off from others for hours on trains. Some of my best work has been coding on long train journeys, especially if there's no wifi to interrupt.

Win7Mac 2015-11-26 00:05

Re: Alternative history: What if Jolla never existed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1489753)
Of course, but a public transport is far from ideal for any mental work. Maybe read a book or listen to some music while commuting?
I just can't imagine doing any serious work that is so noisy and moving etc.

There's a lot to happen while you're on a Train... :D


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