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rebhana

2010-04-18 20:57

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 616188)

Link has been fixed. Please try again!

debian-m5-v3c.img.ext2.lzma

I've started with testing the new image and will now flood this thread with my observations :D. First in this series:

One minor problem I see with get partition ID from blkid is that it doesn't work from /etc/profile with user privileges, i.e. when I do debbie with "su -" :

Code:

Nokia-N900-42-11:/home/user# debian su - user

Chroot dir specified: /.debian

/home/user/MyDocs/debian-m5-v3c.img.ext2 specified in ~/.chroot

Mounting...

using image file: /home/user/MyDocs/debian-m5-v3c.img.ext2

fs type is ext2

Using ext2 file system

mounting /home/user/MyDocs/debian-m5-v3c.img.ext2 on loop

.../home/user/MyDocs/debian-m5-v3c.img.ext2 mounted on loop0

.

..

...

....

Updating the /etc/mtab file...

Everything set up, running chroot...

-su: blkid: command not found

-su: blkid: command not found

-su: /dev/stderr: Permission denied

The prompt is then [user@chroot: ~] instead of [user@debian-v3c: /] .

EDIT: The "command not found" errors are easy to fix, just insert the complete path "/sbin/blkid". Then "debian su - user" does work as intended.
However with "debian su -" (desirable for full localization also for root) the prompt doesn't change at all compared to Maemo. The reason is that there still is a /root/.bashrc file which sets PS1.

bonkel

2010-04-18 21:39

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

hi is there any chance to use the wiimote controller as a mouse in easy debian?

rebhana

2010-04-18 22:47

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 616188)

debian-m5-v3c.img.ext2.lzma

I've continued my testing by installing a few additional packages, and every "apt-get install" has an error message at the end of the process:

Code:

fopen: Permission denied

I didn't get this with v3b. It seems harmless, but how can root get such a message?

EDIT: seems to occur typically after the trigger of man-db, but I can run man-db manually (no pun intended) without error messages.

Patroclo

2010-04-18 23:12

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I would like to know if the audio in easy debian is supposed to work. I am not able to hear any sound from music player. Further the GNOME asamixer is giving me some errors (bad key or direcory). I don't know if there is a correlation.

qole	2010-04-19 01:29

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 616622)

One minor problem I see with get partition ID from blkid is that it doesn't work from /etc/profile with user privileges

The "command not found" errors are easy to fix, just insert the complete path "/sbin/blkid". Then "debian su - user" does work as intended.

Thanks, I'll add the /sbin/ to the blkid commands.

Quote:

However with "debian su -" (desirable for full localization also for root) the prompt doesn't change at all compared to Maemo. The reason is that there still is a /root/.bashrc file which sets PS1.

Argh, so I somehow missed deleting a .bashrc file in the image's /root dir?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 616801)

I've continued my testing by installing a few additional packages, and every "apt-get install" has an error message at the end of the process:

Code:

fopen: Permission denied

I suspect this might be due to over-agressive cleaning of /var/log. I will look into that.

qole	2010-04-19 02:53

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Aha, I found the fopen problem and fixed it. I also changed the OpenGL system to use software rendering. /etc/profile fixed and /root/.bashrc removed.

Is the LXDE problem fixed? Any other problems?

Dousan

2010-04-19 06:11

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 616599)

As I said, I haven't tried anything, so I just pointed you to the mypaint package in squeeze, but that you already have as you say. I see that there are additional gimp packages in squeeze containing just plug-ins which you could try. If you know the name of the plugin, you can also search on http://packages.debian.org#search_contents

Ahhh I see ;)

Will have a look at the gimp plugins, hopefully there's the one i'm looking for :) Maybe i will try that other mypaint package aswell, cause the pressure dosn't really work in the one i have and maybe it will in that one.

Anyway thanks again for the help rebhana and qole :D

rebhana

2010-04-19 06:19

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 617016)

Aha, I found the fopen problem and fixed it. I also changed the OpenGL system to use software rendering. /etc/profile fixed and /root/.bashrc removed.

Is the LXDE problem fixed? Any other problems?

Great! That was quick!

What does the change of OpenGL imply?

Were you also able to fix /etc/profile regarding "-su: /dev/stderr: Permission denied" ?

Meanwhile I also set up locales and didn't have any other problems, but I still need to re-install the rest of my Debian system. Will hopefully find time later today.

Your fix of the "Information" problem is great! With German I didn't have this problem anyway, because "Information" was translated to "Informationen". Now it is not changed any longer, so this problem is clearly fixed completely!

rebhana

2010-04-19 06:25

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patroclo (Post 616842)

With image v3b you should follow the instructions here.
This is fixed in the newest image, v3c.

qole	2010-04-19 15:59

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 617148)

Great! That was quick!

The time consuming part is making the image, dumping the rootfs into it, compressing it, and uploading it to the website...

Quote:

What does the change of OpenGL imply?

With the previous install of OpenGL, things that used OpenGL wouldn't work at all. But now, with software rendering installed, OpenGL apps will work, although somewhat slowly. glxgears was giving me about 20 frames a second.

Quote:

Were you also able to fix /etc/profile regarding "-su: /dev/stderr: Permission denied" ?

No, I didn't notice that was a separate problem. I'll see what I can do.

Quote:

Meanwhile I also set up locales and didn't have any other problems, but I still need to re-install the rest of my Debian system. Will hopefully find time later today.

Your fix of the "Information" problem is great! With German I didn't have this problem anyway, because "Information" was translated to "Informationen". Now it is not changed any longer, so this problem is clearly fixed completely!

Excellent! Thanks so much for testing.

I noticed that audio seems to be better now, and I don't know what I've done differently. CPU use when playing music with lxmusic doesn't seem to be so heavy.

Someone who cannot hear anything with lxmusic, please try the new v3c image and see if it fixes your problem.

attila77

2010-04-19 16:03

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 617896)

Most (if not all) debian apps are compiled/written for OpenGL (not OpenGL ES) so the HW is of little use anyway (unless a good GL to GL ES wrapper surfaces).

qole	2010-04-19 16:22

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Well the hardware is of some use; my N800 only got 10 fps on glxgears. 20 fps is respectable.

Ohh, you meant hardware graphics acceleration! ;)

bonkel

2010-04-19 18:50

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonkel (Post 616699)

hi is there any chance to use the wiimote controller as a mouse in easy debian?

@all i've tried this:
http://bbs.nfvdr.com/redirect.php?ti...&goto=lastpost

and it works...

mscion

2010-04-19 21:14

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Hi Qole,

I downloaded the v3c image on my memory card and defined
IMAGFILE in the .chroot file to find it. Seems to work. I was
wondering though, was one of the enhancements to set Shift + Backspace to be equal to Escape? For example, when I tried to vi a file using ROXTerm in the LXDE, escape didn't work. I guess this is a trivial thing as I can set the .xbindkeysrc myself. I just had the impression from Rebhana's todo list that this was something you had done in this version. Anyways, just checking to see if there is something not right.

Also I think it would be nice to have a ~ (tilde) readily available on the keyboard. Maybe using control t or some other substitution.
Could you tell me the equivalent xbindkey mapping.

For example in my .xbindkeysrc file I have

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text '\e'"
Shift + BackSpace

that way I can Escape when needed

so I'd like to define

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text 'something'"
control + t

to make a ~
but I do not know what the 'something' is.

Thanks and, once again kudos on the great work!

oz87	2010-04-19 21:19

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

i know this is not the right place to post but im having problems with easy debian
i downloaded the image .lzma and unpacked it to .ext2 and put them both in MyDocs but when i open easy debian it says no image found and starts downloading...what did i do wrong? if this post bothers u just ignore it...

rebhana

2010-04-19 21:20

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 617016)

Any other problems?

I have now re-installed almost everything I had under v3b in v3c, and everything works! :)

Just two questions: Is it on purpose that $CHROOT/etc/passwd has a password set for user and root or is that a leftover? Second, in /etc/apt/sources.list there is a second lenny repository

Code:

deb http://packages.tspre.org lenny main non-free contrib

I couldn't find out what that contains in addition or at variance with the standard Debian repositories. Is it even active?

Finally, I forgot to report my timing of "lzma -d" in /home/user/MyDocs/core-dumps:

Code:

real 8m 29.84s 

user 3m 30.39s 

sys 0m 43.44s

(The device had no activity other than skype being on-line.)

I shall of course continue using the new image and report back any issues I might stumble upon. Since I've installed and tested all the packages I use regularly (including a complete LATEX installation, djview, xmaxima, zim, vpnc, ssh, cups-client, encfs,...) and found no problems, I don't expect anything of importance. When do you plan to produce a corrected image (v3d?)?

rebhana

2010-04-19 21:33

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 618402)

I was
wondering though, was one of the enhancements to set Shift + Backspace to be equal to Escape. For example, when I tried to vi a file using ROXTerm in the LXDE, escape didn't work. I guess this is a trivial thing as I can set the .xbindkeysrc myself. I just had the impression from Rebhana's todo list that this was something you had done in this version.

The .xbindkeysrc file is not part of the image, but of the easy-deb-chroot package, that's why it still has to come (if qole finds it OK).

Quote:

Also I think it would be nice to have a ~ (tilde) readily available on the keyboard. Maybe using control t or some other substitution.
Could you tell me the equivalent xbindkey mapping.

For example in my .xbindkeysrc file I have

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text '\e'"
Shift + BackSpace

that way I can Escape when needed

so I'd like to define

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text 'something'"
control + t

to make a ~
but I do not know what the 'something' is.

It should be

Code:

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text "\[asciitilde]""

rebhana

2010-04-19 21:41

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by oz87 (Post 618412)

im having problems with easy debian
i downloaded the image .lzma and unpacked it to .ext2 and put them both in MyDocs but when i open easy debian it says no image found and starts downloading...what did i do wrong?

Do you see your unpacked file when you do

Code:

ls /home/user/MyDocs/debian*.img*

If you have given it some name or location in MyDocs which doesn't match that, you should edit /home/user/.chroot and name the image explicitly in a line "IMGFILE=...".

qole	2010-04-19 21:56

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 618402)

I was
wondering though, was one of the enhancements to set Shift + Backspace to be equal to Escape?

That is not defined in the image, that is something set up by the Easy Debian package. I'll consider those enhancements when I'm updating the package.

Quote:

...Also I think it would be nice to have a ~ (tilde) readily available on the keyboard. Maybe using control t or some other substitution.
Could you tell me the equivalent xbindkey mapping.

try 'asciitilde'

Quote:

Originally Posted by oz87 (Post 618412)

i downloaded the image .lzma and unpacked it to .ext2 and put them both in MyDocs but when i open easy debian it says no image found and starts downloading.

If you downloaded the v3c file instead of the v3b file, the installer won't recognize the file. But you don't need to use the installer if you unpacked it yourself. Just start running Easy Debian apps and it should "just work".

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 618413)

Just two questions: Is it on purpose that $CHROOT/etc/passwd has a password set for user and root or is that a leftover?

I set the passwords to generic things; root is "rootme" and I don't remember what user is.

Quote:

Second, in /etc/apt/sources.list there is a second lenny repository

Code:

deb http://packages.tspre.org lenny main non-free contrib

I couldn't find out what that contains in addition or at variance with the standard Debian repositories. Is it even active?

That's the old deblet repository, with Maemo device-specific packages for Debian. It is probably not much use these days. I could probably disable it now.

Quote:

Finally, I forgot to report my timing of "lzma -d" in /home/user/MyDocs/core-dumps:

Code:

real 8m 29.84s 

user 3m 30.39s 

sys 0m 43.44s

(The device had no activity other than skype being on-line.)

My attempts in MyDocs/core-dumps were terrible. It took over an hour to complete!

Quote:

When do you plan to produce a corrected image (v3d?)?

I'll try to do it this weekend. It shouldn't be too hard to get it done, but finding the time right at the moment will still be tricky.

mscion

2010-04-21 16:51

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

qole and rebhana

Thanks for the rapid response!

By trial and error I found another option for defining keys.

Instead of the using

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text "\[asciitilde]""

try editing .xbindkeysrc, using the xterm from the nokia "desktop" with

"xvkbd -xsendevent -text '~'"

The ~ is obtained from the sym tray (blue arrow key, sym ).
Indeed, to try the former case I had to select
the square brackets in [asciitilde] from the sym tray as they are not on the keyboard either!

I also did this for | .

Assuming it has not already been done, would this be a good time to define a canonical set of key strokes for commonly used symbols that are currently missing from the N900 keyboard? For example, ~ is obtained by control +t, | is
obtained by, say, control p. There are about ten keys that should be defined. ({,},[,],|,^,~,`,<,>) As many of these additional symbols are often used in latex, perhaps rebhanna has already thought this through. Presumably, one should be aware of common conventions like control + z or control + h when doing this. While, the British pound and Euro keys are useless for those in the US, especially as the exchange rate is so bad, I would probably keep them in the spirit of international cooperation.

Personally, the idea of having 3 rows of keys as a standard, appeals to me as my hope is that, in the future, Nokia makes a slightly bigger device that still fits in a shirt pocket
but has a larger screen (perhaps like the 810) and the keys are just big enough so that neighboring keys can be typed with different fingers of the same hand (having 4 rows would again
restrict the key size). Perhaps this is not possible. But having this capability will save my eyes and speed up typing considerably.

rebhana

2010-04-21 20:35

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 621244)

Assuming it has not already been done, would this be a good time to define a canonical set of key strokes for commonly used symbols that are currently missing from the N900 keyboard? For example, ~ is obtained by control +t, | is
obtained by, say, control p. There are about ten keys that should be defined. ({,},[,],|,^,~,`,<,>) As many of these additional symbols are often used in latex, perhaps rebhana has already thought this through.

I indeed have a rather elaborate scheme to fit my needs which include covering LATeX, but this is rather special to my German keyboard. I have in fact remapped the keyboard under Maemo, which carries over to debbie, while for LXDE I do it through xmodmap. Through xbindkeys I just get F1-F12, Escape, and Tab, and the full screen toggle.

A problem with Control+key is that many such shortcuts already exist in various apps running in Maemo. Control+t in particular is also used by firefox for browser tabs, and that shortcut would then be lost. I would instead argue for Shift+Fn+key, which we already have for F1-F12. Those are less likely to be used for other things and can rather easily be pressed simultaneously with one thumb once you get used to it. As an exception I would add Shift+Backspace for escape as advocated some time ago by debernadis. This is an important key in certain situations to get out of something. But with special symbols I think it's difficult to find a generally acceptable solution, because different national keyboards have different layouts as well as different selections of already included special characters. I would therefore only include keys that are missing for everybody. Tilde could be Shift+Fn+Space (in LATeX tilde gives space), Shift+Fn+t could be tab, Shift+Fn+p the pipe symbol, Shift+Fn+g the greater sign, Shift+Fn+l the less sign. Beyond those I would leave it to power users to set up their personal scheme.

mscion

2010-04-22 13:13

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

rebhana
I think what you suggest is reasonable although I would prefer to not press two keys at the same time (I already do that too
often by mistake!). As I am not a power user I may be asking a rather naive question but it seems as if some keys may be under utilized. Could the space bar and the arrow keys be given additional functionally? For example, as currently defined on the N900, blue arrow then space bar gives the @. Can we define
say, shift +space bar equal to ~
also as they possess some similar symmetry (I'm trying to appeal to your physicist side!) how about
shift + left arrow = <
shift + right arrow = >
blue arrow + left arrow = [
blue arrow + right arrow = ]
control + left arrow = {
control + right arrow = }
shift + up arrow = ^
blue arrow +up arrow = `
shift + down arrow = |

rebhana

2010-04-22 15:34

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Unfortunately only English keyboards have four arrow keys - the other have the four arrows crowding on two keys. Incidentally I use shift+space for tilde, but that sacrifices again a browser shortcut. Shift+arrow keys is also already used for selecting text...

mscion

2010-04-22 18:04

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 622743)

That's a shame. I didn't know the arrow keys are doubled up. I like the idea of the shift arrow for selecting text. I do not think I'm currently set to do that. Well, for english keyboard, if one used the function key or control key with the arrows you still have 8 possible definitions. The other characters can be defined using a control sequence you can live with. I guess it's comes down to the preference of the user

rebhana

2010-04-22 21:45

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

If you are interested in remapping the keyboard using in particular the arrow keys, there is a wiki page on how to do that in Maemo (without xbindkeys): http://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard
Then you would have that equally in Maemo proper and in Easy Debian

Jayelzibub

2010-04-23 17:48

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Where can I find a list of applications that specifically work on this distro?

qole	2010-04-23 17:54

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Jayelzibub: it would be better to choose an application from Debian and then ask if anyone has tried it on your device.

There's also an older thread called Debian apps that run well on the tablets; it might be of some use to you.

stlpaul

2010-04-23 19:31

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by hstende (Post 503576)

I installed qtnx inside, and it working well inside lxde.

Did you do anything special? Every time I try to connect, it just uses 100% CPU forever and never does anything... :confused:

rebhana

2010-04-23 19:47

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayelzibub (Post 624785)

Where can I find a list of applications that specifically work on this distro?

As a rule of thumb, everything in the Debian distribution works as all packages come precompiled for the armel architecture - I think in this long thread you'll find only one case where one particular application really refused to run, but then there are always alternative applications. You should rather find out which of the desktop/laptop applications you'd like to have also on this device given its limitations from keyboard and screen. So far everything I wanted I got to work.

For example I read on another thread that somebody asked whether it's possible to have zim, a desktop wiki, which he would have considered a killer app for the N900 that might convince him to buy a N900. I hadn't known zim yet, tried it out on my (Debian) laptop, found it extremely useful indeed, and without much difficulty I got it to run under Easy Debian. I now use it almost daily both at my desktop at work and when I'm on the road on the N900.

lq_sunshine

2010-04-23 20:06

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

thank you.
very helpfull for xmms but what is about audacity?

Lq

qole	2010-04-25 04:43

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Hi all,

rebhana was very helpful debugging the latest image file, and I think it is all fixed now.

Please download, expand, and test the new v3d image file:

debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2.lzma

I'm going to move pretty quickly with this one. If I don't hear any complaints, I'm switching all new Easy Debian installs to the new version.

mscion

2010-04-25 18:54

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Hi qole,

Just to be clear, when you change the easy debian install to the
new version, should we uninstall the current Deb Img Install and then install the new one?

Also, I was wondering, when I changed the size of the tool bar to make it easier to read for the Debian LXDE, it also changed the ubuntu tool bar without me doing anything. I would have assumed that a modification I made in Debian would have no effect on the Ubuntu LXDE. Can you tell me why this happens.

Finally, I'm still confused why I was able to uprade openoffice on ubuntu through lenny backports so that I had the 3.1 equation editor but can not do the same with the Debian. Is it possible to copy the openoffice from ubuntu to debian as I prefer to use Debian, thanks to your efforts.

rebhana

2010-04-25 21:28

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 627286)

Also, I was wondering, when I changed the size of the tool bar to make it easier to read for the Debian LXDE, it also changed the ubuntu tool bar without me doing anything. I would have assumed that a modification I made in Debian would have no effect on the Ubuntu LXDE. Can you tell me why this happens.

That's because the configuration is stored in your home directory, in /home/user/.config/lxde, which is shared between the different images. If you wish, you can change that by modifying the /sbin/qchroot script (see the FAQ in the wiki).

mscion

2010-04-27 00:08

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Rebhana

Interesting that they share the same set up files. Unfortunately
the terminals in ubuntu are acting strangely. I noticed that the ubuntu ROXTERM and LXTERM are not responsive although xterm allows me to enter type. Also I can type in openoffice in ubuntu. I'm not sure how to fix this.

I noticed that lennybackports now has openoffice 3.2 for armel.
Is this compatible with the N900?
I was unable to download it for Debian or Ubuntu. Debian
wants to downgrade to 2.4 and Ubuntu stays at 3.1 (which is supposedly slower than 3.2.

Also, is it correct for the openoffice logo to appear skewed when
opening it up in Debian? In Ubuntu Ooo3.1 the logo is retangular.

rebhana

2010-04-27 01:48

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 629143)

I noticed that lennybackports now has openoffice 3.2 for armel.
Is this compatible with the N900?
I was unable to download it for Debian or Ubuntu. Debian
wants to downgrade to 2.4 and Ubuntu stays at 3.1 (which is supposedly slower than 3.2.

Also, is it correct for the openoffice logo to appear skewed when
opening it up in Debian? In Ubuntu Ooo3.1 the logo is retangular.

I couldn't verify that lenny-backports has OO 3.2 for armel, unfortunately. And yes, the logo at startup is skewed also for me for some reason. No idea why,

mscion

2010-04-27 02:50

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Rebhana

Sorry, I must have been mistaken. Looks like 3.2 is listed under testing.

rebhana

2010-04-27 10:26

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 629220)

Looks like 3.2 is listed under testing.

Wrong again, but you are nevertheless right, there is apparently again a new OO Debian armel version, in sid (unstable - not testing).

qole, are you aware of that? Is there any reason why it might be problematic to upgrade to that? What packages are there btw that one should avoid upgrading in the process? gconf2? Something else?

mscion

2010-04-27 13:01

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Oh, I see what happened. I was looking at the website

http://www.debian-database.org

Just type in openoffice and select armel and lenny in the gui
Here you will find the OOo3.2 in their "testing" column.

This appears to be in an unofficial Debian site. If I had noticed this
I would have noted it earlier.

Any comments about this repository?

On a different topic. Is there an equivalent of a "right click"
using the stylus. Since tapping on an icon opens it. I was wondering if instead one could hold down a key, say right arrow or return -what ever works best, and then tapping the icon to get the usual menu.

qole	2010-04-27 19:23

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Hi guys, thanks for finding the new version of OpenOffice in sid.

I installed it without much pain by enabling the squeeze and sid repos in /etc/apt/sources.list then, as root in Debian:

Code:

apt-get update

apt-get install --no-install-recommends openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-calc

Doesn't seem faster, and the menus changed from icons to text, but it works fine...

mscion: tap-and-hold should work as right-click for GTK and Gnome apps. KDE apps don't have a right-click hack in Easy Debian.

lucas777

2010-04-28 07:07

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Hey guys i have this succesfully installed on my phone and its connected to the net. however when i got to snaptic package manager nothing happens it wont load up. this is kinda urgent and wont have time to search all the pages if someone else had this issue or not. does anyone know how to get apps up and running?

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