Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 

whats the effwctive difference between using nokia messaging vs mfe for gmail ie battery use, performance,reliability,push

using nm now but was using mfe on s60.

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AFAIK it is not possible to to export the personal certificate from the device as it is a security issue. If someone could do that he/she could install it on another device and impersonate you.

If you still have your WinMo device go to Settings->System->Certificates, I have one in Personal tab and that is the one which is used by ActiveSync to authenticate itself to the Exchange server.

I'm gonna talk to my IT on Monday, they somehow support stupid iPhones so there must be another way to generate those certs other than enrolling in ActiveSync.

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From memory when I set my companies ActiveSync, I tested using my own generated certificate which I had to add to my device.

Once all testing was complete, I purchased a certificate from a root level provider (eg. GoDaddy). If you have one from a root level provider, you shouldn't need to register the certificate. If you don't, then you would have to register it in the appropriate place on the N900.

If you have a copy of the certificate, page 93 of the manual should tell you how to add it (Settings -> Certificate Manager).

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I just checked my old Windows phone and I don't have any personal certs, so it much be a capabilities issue.

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Good for you.
I'm returning mine to Amazon.
Our IT requires provisioning and I just verified that N900 doesn't work in our wireless LAN as well (802.11x +PEAP/MSCHAPV2 and WEP). It is back to crappy but working WinMo for me.

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My N900 is collecting dust. I just have not had time to return it. Back to the iPhone........Same issue. Can't connect to my corporate email. No wonder Nokia can not compete where it matters:USA

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Why would USA be where it matters?

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What I see from the logs is that HTTP error 449 is returned. It means that server requires provisioning. As N900 does not support it, it shows the error message to you.

Check the protocol details here: http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...-ASPROV%5D.pdf Page 37 of the document. As N900 does not support provisioning, it aborts the sync when HTTP error code 449 is received from the server.

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Good to have you back, Vitaly. :) Any news of the errors from syncing the n900 with Kerio Mailserver?

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There are no stupid questions, just people that ask questions.

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You say Exchange 2007 works but I cannot get it to work. I've used the same settings that were on my 5800 XpressMusic but still won't connect. I've tried different versions of my domain name, user name with and without domain etc.... can't get it to work. Is there a step by step instruction guide?

Thanks

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Maybe you have the same problem as I do : no provisionning support :(:(:(

My firm won't let me connect a device that does not support remote wipe or lock. My e71 worked flawlessy with MfE or Roadsync but the brand new N900 doesn't:(

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Did you check the MfE Wiki? Having a closer look at (extended) log files might help. If you see a http 449 error then it's most likely a problem concerning provisioning.

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This is a definite deal breaker. I truly do not understand the Nokia mentality. Even Nexus One out of the box will sync your emails, but NOT N900.

I am curious if N900 will ever get provisioning?

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Guber, please give it a rest.

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Ok, since this thread has been negative for the past oh, 100 or so posts.. I just thought I'd add:

It now works for me!

By pure coincidence, my organization deprecated the old server I was using precisely at the moment I switched phones. It was set to reject all users.

I'm now up and running. Thanks Vitaly and everyone else responsible for the PR1.1 update.

*edit*

I just noticed I can't see any of my tasks in the calendar; it shows 5 tasks outstanding in the widget, but when I switch to the task view, it appears empty. If I add a new task on my n900 it adds it as an appointment in exchange/outlook. Is this normal or am I doing something silly?

In any case, not a big deal as I don't use tasks much... and I'm just so happy to be seeing my work email! :)

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I've managed to sync google (calendar only) once. I then deleted the mfe account as I had problems sending "nokia messaging" emails. I went to recreate the mfe configuration for google, but sync never completes -- reporting that there are server connection issues :-(

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planetf1: for the millionth time, google sync is NOT officially supported. It is pure "coincidence" if it works.
This is a very unfortunate situation and quite a dealbreaker for many, so we all hope that Nokia product management orders Vitaly to implement the necessary changes :-)

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Yes indeed. Sorry, apologies. I forgot (eek). expectation vs supported. I've seen the b/storm threads.

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Hello all together, somebody did find anything in the Log Files?
Its strange that sometimes it works smoothly and sometimes it doesnt.

BR

Wolfpac

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I don't have a google account so this this is more of a shot in the dark...

Have you tried to set the EAS protocol permanent to version 2.5 (or maybe 12.0 or 12.1) as described in the Heartbeat-Wiki under troubleshooting?

My guess would be: The older the Exchange server, the less policies IT can enable. Setting N900's protocol to the oldest -> lowest standard (2.5) therefore might help. Again, I don't run either Exchange nor Google Sync!

Though not being related to Nokia or Vitaly's dev team I'd like to take up the cudgels for them - at least to some content ;-)

As much as I know there are a rough 30 different security policies IT can enable on Exchange's 2009 configuration. I doubt that any device (except maybe WinMo 6.1 devices) supports all of them.

The iPhone for example used to forge device encryption on OS3.0 to get Exchange sync up and running. As soon as OS3.1 came out this "feature" was dropped leaving the iPhone disciples syncless again...

If you have the time go read this essay on Exchange's policies. This quite clearly explains why Vitaly would mostly suggest to enable the "Allow non-provisionable devices" tab on Exchange as it eventually eliminates possible sync errors/ communication errors with a hand-strike.

Vitaly & his buddies will for sure come up with extended EAS support- no doubt. But you now might understand why this could take a while.

And besides, the other devices aren't much better here - it all depends on your IT's policy settings. If you're lucky, other devices might pass your specific environment's settings just because they respond to a policy by forged output. Nokia can't. They officially licensed EAS and therefore have to stick to the rules...

Just my 2 cents.

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I can see all sent items, from all three locations (outlook, owa and N900)
On my N900 I can only see items sent from N900. not from OWA nor Outlook
I have installed MFEfolders to disable sync of unnecessary folders. but I haven´t done anything to the "sent folder".
Anyone got the same problem?

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Yep, same here.

--edit---

No, I DO get the sent items. In my MfEfolders there's 2 folders shown: "Sent" and "Sent items". If I choose "Sent items" there's a folder added with all sent email as well. But it won't show up in the default sent folder...

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Is there a way to specify the servlet URL in mfe

* I can't see any reference in GUI
* I tried adding URL after server name, don't think that's working

So is there a text file or similar created by MFE that can be manually edited?

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Now another question. First caveat is that this is with google. HOWEVER I wonder if there is a general mail client BUG?

* Create Nokia Messaging account (for gmail)
* send/receive of email works fine
* Create mfe account for gmail, calendar only
* calendar sync works ok
* NM continues to work fine for receiving mail
* Compose new mail & send
* Mail does not get sent. sits on outbox
* Confirm "default" mailbox is nokia messaging
* delete gmail mfe account, mail then sends ok

So disregarding whether or not mfe works, I think the mail client is trying to send through the wrong account.

Anyone else seen this? bug open? If not sound slike a valid bug (I can open one if so)

I guess a test would be to also configure another supported account, say IMAP & see what happens

| Update -- did this, and I see the sent mail in my gmail's "sent mail". Since I'm pretty sure nokia messaging doesn't do this it suggests that the mail client is choosing the WRONG account to send mail through,

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If you spent 600 plus on a device that does not perform as advertised.......would you give it a rest? I have a simple question: will provisioning appear for this device?

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One thing I would not do is continue parroting the same thing over and over and over again in the same place.

I would escalate.

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
-Albert Einstein

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So do you think that political movements and consumer rants in internet (for example xbox and apple issues) have done nothing good?

I understand that yelling same thing here over and over again might not be useful at all, but yelling it different locations and collecting other people having same issue and again yelling again same thing with big volume might change things.

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slender, kindly note the part of my comment that says "same thing" and "same place" (you did quote it after all).

Thanks.

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Should stop speed reading.

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Server provisioning is a big -ve of Nokia N900. It works on 5800 all other E series devices. Corpoarations will not allow phone to talk to their exchange server unless it is implemented on N900. I cannot get my N900 to check emails even on Campus for the same reason.
The more I look at this issue, nokia just introduced in the market a half baked product which is wanting but can never really satiate you. There are ton of half baked features on N900 so on paper it looks great and when you try to use those there are so many caveats that it is practically useless. Do not give MFE if you cannot test it fully. It is amazing that Nokia MFE expert does not know about server provisioning. Even in the Nokia corp I am sure their IT dept would want to have server provisioning of the phones.
Well as said it is unfinished and half baked product. I hope they release software to make this a really usable product. Smart phone catatgory or even mobile catagory needs the email support unless nokia says use on only yahoo/google. I hope they release software to make this a really usable product. At this moment I am using just as a plane phone and surf. No corp email and slow ovi , few games here and there.
What a shame on such a fantastic hardware and more disappointment for early adopters.

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The thing is that vitaly is well aware of the need.

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Texrat: do you thing that this is acceptable in this market? To introduce a device that can not get me corporate email?

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Jesus, people. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

If they'd held back the release until March (another 5 months), people would be whining about the delay. They released it as early as they could, and, as should be expected, the code isn't fully complete.

So they released it early to get it in the hands of users, and people yell loudly about it being incomplete!

Coding is not easy. It takes time to get it right. I know it's hard to have patience after dropping the better part of $1k on a device, but consider that for every feature that's "half-baked," 50 other features work flawlessly.

Consider:

Multimedia framework (transparent audio routing!)
Task switching
Suspend/resume cycle
Phone calls
Bluetooth handsfree/a2dp
Contact merging (incredibly difficult to implement well, and it's brilliant)
Wifi (except some advanced WEP configs)
Camera (still _and_ video, with focusing)
Input and special characters
The package distribution system
IMAP/SMTP
Desktop widgets
SMS, MSN, Gtalk, and a host of other IM protocols
FM radio (transmit and receive)
.. and a whole host of lower level services running in the background like power management, charge controller, GSM firmware loader, etc, etc.

It's an incredible amount of software packed into this little device, and it's still only a couple months on the market. The features that are badly broken can be counted on one hand, while the ones that work acceptably or perfectly are in the dozens/hundreds.

No amount of hoping will make perfect code appear... it takes effort, patience, and time.

EDIT: To make this post more constructive.... for the first couple weeks I couldn't get my exchange working either, but the Nokia PC suite worked perfectly for sync'ing my contacts and calendar. It's not ideal, and didn't sync email for me... but it at least helped. Has everyone tried that?

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The issue is that our servers will not communicate with non-provisioning device such as N900. If I knew prior to buying that this is an issue, I would not have bought N900.

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https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5503

known, old, still there :-(

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Products are not released like what you described below. Exchange server like it or not is defacto mail server for corp. You do not release it unless it is baked. You will create more confusion than winning few tinkerers. Are there good features yes abs, switched to Nokia N900 for that reason. Start using it and then it falls apart.
For ex: On Contacts : Can't group. very basic feature.
Media player : Good but , indexing bug I still cannot display jpegs photos. People can come to maemo and go through the emails and make it work. Is that supposed to be the norm here.
No unicode support to display the website in my language (Indian) : I am sure there are many other folks who have the same issue. Nokia is world leader in phone accross 46 countries and iphone supports unicode from gen 1 device. Did not have to do anything.

No Isync plugin . Getting contacts is a pain.
On ovi cannot stick my default location. Needs to constantly input it.
I can go on ...... point is not whining. You do not release a half baked product . You do that for 300/400 developers whose feedback would make it a near perfect product. I am really surprised who were the 300 developers nokia gave the product for usability testing. I question their judgement big time. I can volunteer for their next gen product and will give them real feedback .

Not all is lost if they release the software to take care of this. Coolness of N900 hype can last for a month or so or less then it will start exposing the real weakness on nokia's software and I think I suspect that is what is starting to happen to most of N900 early adopters.

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I would be happy to be a guinea pig in developing the product, but not in paying my own $600 for being a guinea

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I would be happy not seeing Vitaly's thread spammed up.

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i thought this thread especially for enhancing MfE not whinning, oh well.