maemo.org - Talk - [ANNOUNCE] Alpha release of Open Media Player

I agree only partially, If producers mess the stuff up the eq may be needed. Or if the playback system is crappy. Then eq may be useful.
But it's not a must-have.

gidzzz

2012-06-17 21:00

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Alpha release of Open Media Player

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Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1223037)

I don't know how good the pl_pl translation is (using en_us anyway) but if it's not good, I may help

Thanks, but I'd prefer someone who uses it regularly (it's currently maintained by me, but I don't use it either :) ).

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Originally Posted by seanmcken (Post 1223233)

everything is good in OMP. needed thing is only equilizer. im not forcing anyone

Please stop asking for the equalizer here, because it's out of OMP's scope. If you want an equalizer, you have to implement it in a lower layer.

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Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1223272)

On a more important note, are we any closer to making OMP not be disrupted by incoming SMS and IM notifications?
Is this of any use??

This issue is high priority for me, but its fun factor is very low and the whole libplayback thing is rather poorly documented (your link was the only piece of code I could find), so I gave up quite quickly and haven't touched it since my first attempt.

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Originally Posted by gazza_d (Post 1223161)

doesnt look like anyone else has experienced this or at least reported it. with the build from last night (16/06) when I shuffle all songs, they are being played as if they are internet radio stations.

I have prepared a fix and the update is in the repositories. Changes for today:

Added an option to resume playback only when a headset is reconnected within specified time.
Added an option to manually choose a translation.
Fixed a regression causing "Shuffle all songs" to open the radio window.
New translation: Arabic (Saudi Arabia) by laith.my.
Updated translations.

To manually choose a translation, enter its language code. Do "ls /opt/openmediaplayer/lang/" in the terminal or visit https://www.transifex.net/projects/p...t-mediaplayer/ for a list of available translations (only those more complete are packaged with OMP).

geneven

2012-06-17 21:46

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Originally Posted by gidzzz (Post 1223405)

The above comment is about music being disrupted by incoming messages. I would like to point out that for users like me who rarely listen to music but frequently listen to audiobooks, this is a much bigger deal. Having a few words or paragraphs obliterated can and often does turn sense into nonsense.

megaexer

2012-06-18 14:37

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I think the settings dialog should have word wrap in portrait mode so translators like me wouldn't have to type abbreviations or line breaks into longer strings. Those would unnecessarily show up in landscape mode too.

Isn't it better to hide the forced language code into some config file where you can change it? Or maybe a drop-down list with languages?

Also you might want to make "Selected song set as ringing tone" translatable. :)

Keep it up gidzzz

MastaG

2012-06-18 14:42

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Since I'm too lazy to read all 105 pages...
I would like to know if it's possible in the next release to create playlists for videos.
I've downloaded lots of YouTube-videos using NVideo, all music video's FLV (most of them with just a static background).
They all show up in Open Media Player but when they're done playing it won't play the next video.
Anyways if video-playlists are too much to ask, then at least let it play the next video :)

vetsin

2012-06-18 15:10

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Alpha release of Open Media Player

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Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1223241)

This really isn't important, I completely argee with vi_

Artists/Producers adjust the EQ. Listeners ...um listen.

well not all earphones/headphones are neutral. some are more bassy/tinny than others so to somewhat make them sound more "normal" we need an equalizer.

edit: sorry for OT. :o

saponga

2012-06-18 15:57

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Originally Posted by gidzzz (Post 1222995)

I don't know how big was that upload, but if I remember correctly, I was surprised by not seeing the percentage go up after it. Anyway, it's been already about 2.5 months since it was created and there are some obvious errors in its current state (like translating "%n song" to "Um: %n song"), so it certainly could use your help (I have added you to the team).

Almost done. I just didn't figured out what the commands "override FMTX" and "Append opened songs" supposedly do.:o

freemangordon

2012-06-18 16:37

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Originally Posted by geneven (Post 1223421)

Sure thing, but as I see it that MUST be an user-selectable option, which defaults to stock behavior.

funkmunk

2012-06-18 18:06

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Alpha release of Open Media Player

@freemangordon

Any idea if Coverflow album view will be in a future version of OMP??

geneven

2012-06-18 21:10

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Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1223770)

Sure thing, but as I see it that MUST be an user-selectable option, which defaults to stock behavior.

Well, where would a user select don't interrupt this audiobook or music, or would one have to tell the incoming message not to make a sound ever?

vi_	2012-06-18 21:58

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Originally Posted by vetsin (Post 1223723)

well not all earphones/headphones are neutral. some are more bassy/tinny than others so to somewhat make them sound more "normal" we need an equalizer.

edit: sorry for OT. :o

Sorry mate, but you cannot fix rubbish EQ with MOAR EQ. Check out 'death magnetic' CD version by metallica and tell me how any amount of EQ can fix that mess?

If you have utterly rubbish headphones then perhaps you should invest in a pair that costs > $10 instead of hassling someone to create a software EQ plugin for the media player backend? Do you have ANY idea how hard it is to create software EQ from scratch? I will give you a clue, if you were to pay a programmer it would cost more than $10. $10 would not even get you a UML on a cigarette packet!

freemangordon

2012-06-18 22:36

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Originally Posted by geneven (Post 1223875)

Well, where would a user select don't interrupt this audiobook or music, or would one have to tell the incoming message not to make a sound ever?

It could be my English, but what i meant is an user-selectable option to DISABLE ALL PLAYBACK INTERRUPTS, as simple as that, not some fancy algorithm ;). And I think such an option will work for me (as I want my music interrupted from Sygic for example) and you (who want your audiobooks uninterruptable).

bennypr0fane

2012-06-23 17:21

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Originally Posted by gidzzz (Post 1158739)

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Something slightly different: Would it be possible to completely ignore "tracker" and tell OMP where to look for music/video files? Maybe even browse files by their folder structure? (I know that there are players out there that do that, but they have other downfalls)

There are some limitations (multi-CD albums being my "favorite"), but I think that keeping a separate database is straying too far from the path

Hello, I have a similar question, I'd like to make OMP just ignore some directories. I have the same music files in internal memory and on SD card, so they're all listed twice in OMP. I want to keep the copies in the internal memory so I can listen to them when the SD card is not present (sometimes I put that into my other phone). Can I make make OMp ignore the Music dir on the internal memorsy? I don't know if a separate database is necessary for that...
Thanks, Ben

vi_	2012-06-23 17:34

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Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1226352)

No you cannot. OMP gets info about tracks from 'tracker'. Tracker maintains a list of all the music on your device. To stop a piece being listed twice you would need to tell tracker to ignore one of your directorys. Unfortunately if you ignore a directory, you will not be able to play music from it (as OMP will not see it).

saponga

2012-06-23 18:17

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Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 1226362)

Since he has the same files on emmc, he could just makes tracker ingnores the card, or at least the directory that contains the music files.

sixwheeledbeast

2012-06-23 18:34

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Originally Posted by saponga (Post 1226384)

Since he has the same files on emmc, he could just makes tracker ingnores the card, or at least the directory that contains the music files.

Make a .music folder on the memory card.
Other (non-linux?) phone sees the folder and plays the music.
N900 hides the folder completely.

Eithier way this is off-topic for OMP as it's a tracker issue.

daniel_m

2012-06-23 21:50

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Ah, nice to see that I am not the only one who wishes to have a media player without tracker :D
It's just too buggy and it will never be fixed! There are one or two audio players for fremantle that "read folders", but they have not been updated for a long time and are lacking some functions.

Another issue I have with OMP: Why does it always start with the main screen and not from where it was when it got closed? And why does it always show "Songs" when one clicks on "Music", instead of what one chose last time to sort audio after (e.g. "Albums").

sixwheeledbeast

2012-06-23 22:51

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Originally Posted by daniel_m (Post 1226481)

Why does it always start with the main screen and not from where it was when it got closed?

I think the way OMP automatically opens Now Playing is great, definately a good "feature".

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel_m (Post 1226481)

why does it always show "Songs" when one clicks on "Music", instead of what one chose last time to sort audio after (e.g. "Albums").

I don't have this problem at all.

daniel_m

2012-06-24 09:59

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Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1226505)

I don't have this problem at all.

Oh, I don't have it either! When was the last time I used OMP? :rolleyes:

I'd still like to see tracker being kicked out :p

bennypr0fane

2012-06-24 20:50

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Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1226390)

Actually, I'd rather have Tracker ignore the music folder in emmc, since the cards is present most of the time.
I think it's not totally off-topic, since my question is still about a problem concerning OMP, so I dare to not open a new thread and ask here:
How do I make Tracker ignore that directory?
Aren't ALL the standard folders in MyDocs on emmc hidden by default (which has always struck me as totally weird)? If so, I don't think they'd get ignored, because the file manager does show them (Maemo stock fm shows them without a period, in Filebox it's there).

Estel

2012-06-24 22:49

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As said just use dot as beginning of folder name, and it's ignored.

You can also define custom ignored folder sin tracker config.

BTw, I got confirmation, that recent tracker problems with OGG, Flac, and all formats above standard ones, *may* be related to CSSU. merlin1991 is working on it.

/Estel

vi_	2012-06-24 23:30

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Originally Posted by bennypr0fane (Post 1226911)

To edit tracker ignore list in a nice easy way install 'trackercfg' by nicolai. Through it you can set all trackers options.

Tracker has always worked great for me. I have found if you do not try to restrict it (low memory mode+throttling) and just let it finish its stuff quickly then I have no problems.

Also, disable content indexing.

The only problem I have had was thumbnailerd throwing a fit at a broken thumbnail, however that was over a year and a half ago when I was still a freman(tle)oob.

If you stop tracker from indexing one of your sources, then you will have to rebuild the database evertime you want to switch sources.

Estel

2012-06-25 03:51

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gdizzz, apart tracker problem with ogg/flac being a fact (CSSU bug), are You sure, that there isn't anything wrong in OMP too? I'm unable to play .ogg files, even if I try to open them directly, as a files (from folders) - OMP starts, show file name, but count it's total play time as -00:01 second, and trying "play" result in nothing (to be precise, for a milisecond something start, then return to point 0).

Or is it side effect of tracker problems?

/Estel

gidzzz

2012-06-25 05:39

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Originally Posted by megaexer (Post 1223709)

It's certainly a good idea, but Qt buttons don't have this built-in, so it's not so straightforward (but hopefully doable).

Quote:

Originally Posted by megaexer (Post 1223709)

Isn't it better to hide the forced language code into some config file where you can change it? Or maybe a drop-down list with languages?

It's quite possible that it will be either hidden or replaced with something more elegant, but I'll probably wait with it until I stop peeking at translations or do a makeover of the settings window.

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Originally Posted by megaexer (Post 1223709)

Also you might want to make "Selected song set as ringing tone" translatable. :)

Thanks for the nice find. :)

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Originally Posted by MastaG (Post 1223712)

Anyways if video-playlists are too much to ask, then at least let it play the next video :)

Look for "Continuous video playback" in the settings window (after downloading today's update). Managing video playlists is on my to-do, but in "just an idea" section for now.

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Originally Posted by saponga (Post 1223754)

Almost done. I just didn't figured out what the commands "override FMTX" and "Append opened songs" supposedly do.:o

Are the descriptions in the wiki (http://wiki.maemo.org/Open_Media_Player) clear enough?

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Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1226988)

After reinstalling Extra Decoders Support and its dependencies (just Ogg Support might have been enough, but I didn't care to do it one-by-one) everything went back to normal and I can happily play .ogg and .flac. I think updating Tracker cleared some info about registered mime types (you can maybe confirm that by running "tracker-info path/to/file.ogg" and looking for contradictions, IIRC that helped me with the solution), so they had to be registered again.

I think OMP has nothing to do with it. The playback is probably broken because MAFW is thinking that you're trying to feed it a non-audio file (and the reason is Tracker's incomplete mime info).

Woohoo! I have an update ready and although the changelog might not look spectacular at the first glance, it's a very significant release, because (if I'm not mistaken) it marks the achievement of all important features of the stock media player. Of course, many things need to be polished, but It should be quite possible to live completely without the stock player from now on (but don't think about uninstalling it yet ;) )

Added an option to prevent audio from being interrupted by sound notifications.
Added support for video stream bookmarks.
Added an option to keep playing further videos when the current one ends.
Properly rotate the bookmark dialog.
The bookmark button in radio "Now playing" works.
Fixed an untranslatable string.
New translation: Portuguese (Brazil) by VGs and saponga.
Updated translations.

The first listed feature is enabled by default, to imitate the stock player. It will make things like SMS and IM notifications emit only a quiet beep and the music will keep going, without nasty gaps. The behavior can be configured differently for locked and unlocked screen.

The second feature sounds very humble, but it's rather extensive, because it includes separating audio from video stations, a button in video "Now playing", changes to the bookmark editing window and so on.

There's also one important thing regarding video bookmarks: it's quite different from the stock player. Nokia's way is to throw all videos into the video browser, no matter if they're stored locally or if they're just bookmarked addresses of video streams. In OMP, however, video bookmarks are accessible through the radio browser. Excluding "shuffle all", there are only 3 icons in the main window, so I think i makes more sense to divide media into {local music, local videos, remote music and videos} than {local music, local and remote videos, remote music}. Any objections? What do you think?

P.S. I'm sorry if I have written something stupid or forgot something in the update, I'm dead tired, will check for complaints after getting some rest (BTW, Estel, why do I have a feeling that you never sleep? :eek:).

vi_	2012-06-25 09:02

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I like OMP. Have some pizza.

xenoglyph

2012-06-25 09:58

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Thanks for all the hard work!

Estel

2012-06-26 00:38

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Thanks a lot for this milestone update, and all of Your hard work!

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Originally Posted by gidzzz (Post 1227001)

I'll try this method - I've reinstalled ogg-support, and it's post-install scripts registered mimetypes with tracker, but I'm still unable to play any .ogg file. Maybe reinstalling dependencies too will do the trick. Thanks for suggestion!

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Originally Posted by gidzzz (Post 1227001)

There's also one important thing regarding video bookmarks: it's quite different from the stock player. Nokia's way is to throw all videos into the video browser, no matter if they're stored locally or if they're just bookmarked addresses of video streams. In OMP, however, video bookmarks are accessible through the radio browser. Excluding "shuffle all", there are only 3 icons in the main window, so I think i makes more sense to divide media into {local music, local videos, remote music and videos} than {local music, local and remote videos, remote music}. Any objections? What do you think?

Sounds reasonable.

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Originally Posted by gidzzz (Post 1227001)

(BTW, Estel, why do I have a feeling that you never sleep? :eek:).

Haha, You're not first one to ask me about it :) Well, it seems, that my sleep is quite unregular in very unhealthy manner ;)

/Estel

merlin1991

2012-06-26 02:21

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I've noticed a bug with the video playback, if you start a video, go back to the list of videos, and immediately go to the tasknav, you'll notice that it unsuccessfully tries to open a 2nd window a few times.

About the missing ogg/flac support, I was able to reproduce the missing files in the tracker db after the tracker update (which can be fixed with a few dbus calls or a reinstallation of ogg-support), but couldn't reproduce not being able to play the files in question.

Estel

2012-06-26 03:09

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Alpha release of Open Media Player

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Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1227390)

Still no joy :( Even after reinstalling ogg-support and it's direct dependencies, I can't play any .ogg file. .flac files does work, though.

When trying to play .ogg files, mediaplayer just "skips" through whole list, unsuccessfully trying to start every single file on list. If it's .ogg, it fails.
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I'm absolutely sure, that same files played perfectly well some time ago. WTF? Maybe it's something FCKD in my device's side?

/Estel

// Edit
I've tried reinstalling decoders-support and it's dependencies too (in addition to ogg-support and it's dependencies - ogg-support is, for one, dependency of decoders-support) - still no joy.

Progress, is that I now see my .ogg albums/playlist/artists properly, and while trying to play them, open media player shows their correct length. Still, attempt to play any .ogg file result in immediate skip to next song, without slightest sign of sound.

Same apply for Theora video files - I'm absolutely sure that they worked fine (well, I encoded them for use with N900), but now, attempt to play them result in pop-up message about missing "application/annodex decoder plugin" (WTF is that?).

Flac files, hoever, works fine.

Any ideas? I would love to be able to play my .ogg's and theora's again :)

Ps.

I've tried playback via mediabox (which is different player for Maemo, but using mafw), and results were same.

Of course, playback via mplayer and it's frontends works well, but it's not related (just to confirm, that files are ok).

// Edit 2

Unrelated to my problem, but related to open media player - just after trying to watch theora video (which fails), mediaplayer tries to open new windows 10-15 times (probably, x many times, where x is ammount of videos I have), kicking me into tasknav, forcibly, no matter if I'm doing something else or not :) It stops only after skipping through whole video list.

Just to make things clear - those video are, normally, working in media player, and this skipping video fenomena is not related to being unable to play something.

Why I know it's kipping through videos? Despite it doing it fast, sometimes, I see first frame for a fraction of second. It may be related to problem observed by merlin.

sixwheeledbeast

2012-06-26 20:12

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I have a request for OMP.

I'll set the scene...
Listening to music in the van via OMP, incoming call interupts the music.
Answer the call, I have to turn the volume up on the radio to hear the phone conversation.
Call comes to an end person hangs up/I reject call.
Instantly before I can react, music resumes at ear bursting volume.
Quickly have to hold the volume down button on the radio.

Is it possible to make OMP delay resuming playback for * seconds?

Ideally if possible, make OMP do a light 'beep' like the FM transmitter in standby does; so you know playback will resume.

I could see this being a potentially useful option for videos too.
If you are interupted by a call mid-video, you many have to set the stand back up or plug in the TV out etc after the call.
While your doing this the video will be playing and you will have to skip back to see what you missed.

kent_autistic

2012-06-27 01:55

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something similar to above post happened to me yesterday.

While getting ready for work, I was listening to music using a bluetooth speaker and OMP. Before i left my house, I paused the widget, turned off bluetooth, and closed OMP. When I got to the office, I received a phone call. After pressing end button, boom! the music went off, i panicked, i had to hold down the speakers so it won't be too loud. Then I was able to hit pause on the media player widget.

is this caused by OMP?

int_ua

2012-06-27 13:43

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Sorry if it was already requested, but can we have an option to disable album arts at all on "now playing" screen? I don't like spending CPU cycles on them :(

sixwheeledbeast

2012-06-27 16:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kent_autistic (Post 1228034)

is this caused by OMP?

I am sure I had this issue with the MP widget using MP a good while ago. I have reflashed since then and never had an issue.

The only time I have something like this happen with OMP is...
If you listen to music with the headphone jack connected (plugged into a vehicle's radio) and take a call. Then remove the jack mid-call (because you have parked up to get out).
When you end the call the music resumes, because it has not realised the headphones have been unplugged while on the phone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by int_ua (Post 1228207)

Sorry if it was already requested, but can we have an option to disable album arts at all on "now playing" screen? I don't like spending CPU cycles on them :(

Have you tried "Car View"

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One more small request if possible.
Any chance of an option to make OMP start playing on opening the application?

int_ua

2012-06-28 04:19

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Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1228257)

Have you tried "Car View"

A couple of releases back.
It lacked some functionality present in the default view and it looks like it's still loading images in the background.

vijays

2012-06-28 17:28

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Have almost stopped using the stock player especially after the tweaks that made searching and playing music, loading video thumbnails almost instantaneous..Thanks a lot for that and the regular updates!
If someone could plz clarify, am not able to use the physical keyboard to search for videos while the same works for audio..Makes it cumbersome to browse thru hundreds of vids..
Sorry if someone already raised this earlier as I cldnt find the answer..

sixwheeledbeast

2012-06-28 19:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vijays (Post 1228671)

Same here and I agree :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by vijays (Post 1228671)

If someone could plz clarify, am not able to use the physical keyboard to search for videos while the same works for audio.

I can confirm that, text search is not available for videos.

NightShift79

2012-06-28 21:24

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Hi.

I made an QB Widget to switch to a car profile +turn on the FM transmitter + open OMP
Mostly I use OMP in the car, so I wonder if you see a chance for an option to start OMP directly with the car view. Maybe via a command line parameter which I can use with a dbus call?

sirpaul

2012-06-28 21:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NightShift79 (Post 1228767)

Hi.

I made an QB Widget to switch to a car profile +turn on the FM transmitter + open OMP

that sounds really good. May you share the code? :)

sixwheeledbeast

2012-06-29 15:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NightShift79 (Post 1228767)

Mostly I use OMP in the car, so I wonder if you see a chance for an option to start OMP directly with the car view. Maybe via a command line parameter which I can use with a dbus call?

This would be useful.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirpaul (Post 1228777)

that sounds really good. May you share the code? :)

Code:

#!/bin/sh



dbus-send --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.profiled /com/nokia/profiled com.nokia.profiled.set_value string:"Car" string:"vibrating.alert.enabled" string:"On"



dbus-send --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.HildonDesktop.AppMgr /com/nokia/HildonDesktop/AppMgr com.nokia.HildonDesktop.AppMgr.LaunchApplication string:"openmediaplayer"



sleep 2



/usr/bin/fmtx_client -p 1

Something like the above script maybe?

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