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NvyUs 2011-05-19 13:10

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marrat (Post 1010000)
However I understand the hints of zehjotkah in the way that both "developer" and "consumer" device will have QWERTY. You, however, are claiming, developer device with QWERTY, consumer device without...

Don't care who's right, I just need find a way to get the QWERTY one... :cool:

yup and its true and I'm willing to talk to zehhjotkah in private how i know but not here publicly

Brock 2011-05-19 13:12

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 1009995)
I've had it confirmed by 3 people now there is two devices 2 Nokians and 1 who works close with Nokia,
zehjotkah as been saying this too even before the leak for last couple weeks, but people are still ignoring it and swear differently, but its I and zehjotkah who will laugh last :D:D:D:D:D:D

ok, but what will be the difference?

Will it have the same name, first model for developers and the second (with consumer firmware) for consumers <- like n900

or

will it be something like n9 and later n10, similar hardware but the second (laikku) without the keyboard?

and keep in mind that elop said that there will be one meego phone this year, not at least one...

marrat 2011-05-19 13:13

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 1010008)
ok, but what will be the difference?

Will it have the same name, first model for developers and the second (with consumer firmware) for consumers <- like n900

or

will it be something like n9 and later n10, similar hardware but the second without the keyboard?

and keep in mind that elop said that there will be one meego phone this year, not at least one...

The Elop statement would fit to the first option with "only" different firmwares...

Brock 2011-05-19 13:14

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 1010001)
yup and its true and I'm willing to talk to zehhjotkah in private how i know but not here publicly

ok, but then it would be the same with the n900, so we will still have only 1 phone, just some people will get it a little bit earlier then the whole rest

NvyUs 2011-05-19 13:14

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
I know nothing about specs I've never claimed to Know that. All I know is the device in video is not the One people should be getting excited over and the Consumer device as no hardware KB

xerxes2 2011-05-19 13:15

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
It looks like qgil's talk at MeeGo conf next week wasn't accepted.
http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sess...eego-community

So there may not be that much info from Nokia about Harmattan next week after all. Maybe it's Intel that turns up the heat? :D

Edit: Full schedule: http://sf2011.meego.com/program/session-schedule

Brock 2011-05-19 13:16

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 1010013)
I know nothing about specs I've never claimed to Know that. All I know is the device in video is not the One people should be getting excited over and the Consumer device as no hardware KB

how actual is your information?

marrat 2011-05-19 13:18

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 1010017)
how actual is your information?

As he just claimed to have talked to two Nokians and one person close to Nokia, one could assume that info is pretty up-to-date

sjgadsby 2011-05-19 13:22

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
If Nokia releases a phone with higher screen resolution than the iPhone 4, does Engadget make a sound?

Den in USA 2011-05-19 13:23

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 1010013)
I know nothing about specs I've never claimed to Know that. All I know is the device in video is not the One people should be getting excited over and the Consumer device as no hardware KB

Are you saying that the N950 Meego NIT will not have a hardware keyboard?

dtergens 2011-05-19 13:25

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Don't believe at all this last info personaly, imho people will have choice with kb phone and kb less phone, and for the rest it will be exactly the same device. Ok that's just my hope :-)

vvaz 2011-05-19 13:35

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 1010025)
If Nokia releases a phone with higher screen resolution than the iPhone 4, does Engadget make a sound?

Only to bash it for:
- contrast in direct sunlight
- subpixels
- not supporting AdobeRGB
- doesn't bring world peace

v.

dtergens 2011-05-19 13:36

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 1010025)
If Nokia releases a phone with higher screen resolution than the iPhone 4, does Engadget make a sound?

Yeah, we need something like this to make THE BUZZ like never before :D

mscion 2011-05-19 13:42

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1009982)
There's nothing funny about this! Fun has ended long time ago.
It has been 14 months when the RM-680 first came up in a bug list. I'm being physically hurt by Nokia at this point. :D

It's time for the maemo minions, armed with torches and pitchforks, to gather at the gates of Nokia headquarters and demand release of the N9!

nikrohr 2011-05-19 14:12

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
check out the pics on www.nokiablog.ch

1280 x 720 - ~366ppi should be true....

N9 4''

http://www.nokiablog.ch/wp-content/u...5/Nokia-N9.jpg

E7 4''

http://www.nokiablog.ch/wp-content/u...5/Nokia-E7.jpg

dtergens 2011-05-19 14:25

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
waow if that's true, they would take a step ahead of competitors, we have not seen it since long time, welcome back Nokia ! ^^

So if we repeat all rumor :

- OS sort of first handset meego built (with sort of anna icons pack)
- Maemo style multitasking best ever by Nokia lol
- 4" screen (or 4.1"/4.2") CBD 16:9 (clear black display like E7) maybe 1280x720
- capacitive screen multitouch
- 1200 mAh battery (write in FCC report)
- Qwerty keyboard 4 rows with nice slider-screen
- 12 mpx AF camera with double Led flash (without lens cover)
- 720p, 30fps recording
- Ovi/Nokia Maps full like symbian one

and we still don't know about :

- HDMI output ?
- FM transmitter ?
- compass ?
- USB Host ?
- IR port ?
- CPU ?
- RAM ?
- TV out cable ?
- SD card slot ?
- Video codecs ?
- HP sound ?
- Xterminal ?
- Microb browser ?
- Microsoft XBox games ? :D

What else ?

erendorn 2011-05-19 14:25

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
If that's true this phone will have a higher resolution than the netbook I bought a month ago...

Maybe a higher pricetag too!

qwazix 2011-05-19 14:26

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1009947)
plus better CPU
Well iphone 4 is just a Nokia 1100 with better screen, SOC and better camera. :D

nah, the iphone doesn't have a flashlight
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Live Sex Webshows

cjp 2011-05-19 14:34

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Two things that I think aren't being addressed here:

1. Why make a promotional video with this budget, if the device is meant for developers only. Just show devs a specsheet, show them a powerpoint about how easy it will be to make apps and make a few dollars on the platform. Then just toss them devices at Nokia World for example. I don't think there's any point making such an elaborate video for devs only.

2. Why are we sure that the screen images aren't simulated? We see the screen from a multitude of angles, but I think its still plausible. The N900 video sure had simulated screens and we've seen them in smartphone ads before. This means that they could've put anything on the screen, and in reality have no software together to show anywhere on any device.

My two cents. Oh and guys, be more clear about your sources please. If you can't say, don't say anything at all.

Jedibeeftrix 2011-05-19 14:36

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
i would hope this does have a dual-core (said as music stutters on his n900 from loading webpages), not least because newer dual-core designs will have a stronger gpu.............. needed for this higher resolution screen!

p.s. is this camera different from the n8 camera, and if so is it because it is a af rather than edopf camera?

cheers

IcyMoustache 2011-05-19 14:37

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xerxes2 (Post 1010016)
It looks like qgil's talk at MeeGo conf next week wasn't accepted.
http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sess...eego-community

So there may not be that much info from Nokia about Harmattan next week after all. Maybe it's Intel that turns up the heat? :D

Edit: Full schedule: http://sf2011.meego.com/program/session-schedule




Quim's presentation is rejected!!!?! Is this a snub to Nokia by Intel???

eMiL 2011-05-19 14:38

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix (Post 1010078)
i would hope this does have a dual-core (said as music stutters on his n900 from loading webpages), not least because newer dual-core designs will have a stronger gpu.............. needed for this higher resolution screen!

p.s. is this camera different from the n8 camera, and if so is it because it is a af rather than edopf camera?

cheers

N8 has AF camera!

chemist 2011-05-19 14:40

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by __-_-_-__ (Post 1009881)
it disappoints me a lot...
-no oled display
-no fm transmitter
-no infrared
-only 5MP camera
-no 1080p recording
-only 512mb ram
-no dual-core cpu
-no 4G

Just nuts, especially on the 4G part, there is no real 4G yet, what carriers claim to be 4G they provide is nothing like 4G.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtergens (Post 1010069)
...
So if we repeat all rumor :
...
- OS sort of first handset meego built (with sort of anna icons pack)
- Ovi/Nokia Maps full like symbian one
...
and we still don't know about :
...
- Video codecs ?
...

It is only branded meego but the software is maemoX+meego compatibility stack.
Where did you get the full OviMaps from...?
Video codecs? You have no clue about linux do you?

I should grab some popcorn...
You guys start to behave like little children just before x-mas...

ironm8 2011-05-19 14:41

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
I fail to see the excitement about having a nHD resolution..as if guys here are clinging to the less importent stuff that seems to overshadow this N9/50.
I agree that having a nHD resolution phone FIRST(i find it a gimmick) would be awesome. but to be honest the N900 screen is satisfying in my mind, as it responsive and works ok under sunlight. I also figure that a huge resolution will require a top notch graphics chip plus a neafty battery which by the FCC seems to be somewhat small(1200?). We know that the camera would be awesome, but i think i'm not the only one that it doesnt matter to him.

However, we have to look at the other presumable specs.
For example, if it doesnt have hardware keyboard you can count me out. We also know that Meego is far from being ready.
if the story about the RM-680 being that device, then it will have quite outdated components..i can already see Nokia getting slammed for it and their brand name will get worst...

I am not rulling out buying one, but i wont buy anything for a year from now so all im saying is to wait and also focus on the important things.

tissot 2011-05-19 14:47

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cjp (Post 1010076)
Two things that I think aren't being addressed here:

1. Why make a promotional video with this budget, if the device is meant for developers only. Just show devs a specsheet, show them a powerpoint about how easy it will be to make apps and make a few dollars on the platform. Then just toss them devices at Nokia World for example. I don't think there's any point making such an elaborate video for devs only.

2. Why are we sure that the screen images aren't simulated? We see the screen from a multitude of angles, but I think its still plausible. The N900 video sure had simulated screens and we've seen them in smartphone ads before. This means that they could've put anything on the screen, and in reality have no software together to show anywhere on any device.

My two cents. Oh and guys, be more clear about your sources please. If you can't say, don't say anything at all.

1.
History of the RM-680 is old, really old. http://nokiagadgets.com/?p=663
There has happened lots of stuff between and that ad(that's not offically from a Nokia source) could just as well be from last year when previously first MeeGo device was supposed to be seen.

2.
Totally agree. Especially thinking if this teaser, ad is very old the possibilities for that are even higher. So far i'm not letting myself to get hyped about reso from a ad screencaps.

NvyUs 2011-05-19 14:51

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
is'nt nHD Nokias 640*360 screens? you guys are really mixing up the terminology in this thread, I'm confused :confused:

dtergens 2011-05-19 14:54

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chemist (Post 1010082)
It is only branded meego but the software is maemoX+meego compatibility stack.
Where did you get the full OviMaps from...?
Video codecs? You have no clue about linux do you?

I should grab some popcorn...
You guys start to behave like little children just before x-mas...

Where did you get this software info ? lol
1. Do you mean formally that this device will receive all meego release update in the future ?
2. Ovi Maps information has been done by our friend zehjotkah.
3. yes I'm a linux noob and so... not a nokia noob
4. All people on this thread is looking for his next & new toy, aren't you ? \o/

wmarone 2011-05-19 14:56

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dtergens (Post 1010093)
1. Do you mean formally that this device will receive all meego release update in the future ?

No, his point is that it is Not Quite MeeGo. So it is probably dependent on Nokia for updates until a pure MeeGo based stack can be built for it (which will probably happen.)

dtergens 2011-05-19 15:01

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Thanks for this clear answer wmarone, that's for me the essential condition for buy or not this device.

evan 2011-05-19 15:02

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
about the mystery device..
http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...tion-at-nokia/
We can’t wait to show you more –
I can't wait either

marrat 2011-05-19 15:07

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by evan (Post 1010103)
about the mystery device..
http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...tion-at-nokia/
We can’t wait to show you more –
I can't wait either

Oh yesssssssssss! :eek:

AndyNokia232 2011-05-19 15:18

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by evan (Post 1010103)
about the mystery device..
http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...tion-at-nokia/
We can’t wait to show you more –
I can't wait either

Ha! You beat me to it. I see Jon Reece from the N900 promo made a comment ;)

What about this theory: the E7 and N8 (apart from a few obvious differences) are almost the same model. One with a keyboard, one without, but essentially very similar looking devices.

Could it be that the rumors of 2 new devices are that Nokia will release one with a kb and one without, thereby offering consumers a perfect choice for whatever their preference? Could really help sales. Just a thought. N9 with, N950 without?

NvyUs 2011-05-19 15:23

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
I just googled Nokia RM686 Harmattan these are the results below.
NOw check out the link pkgs - Collabora People for easter eggs ;)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...12da287c2ebdcb

shady 2011-05-19 15:25

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
N9/50 == "jessies girl" .... hahahaha

Separate package for NFC related tools
ii nfcd 0.10.3+0m6 Daemon that handles NFC tags and devices
ii ngf-settings-rx71

boom! nice surprise!!!

zehjotkah 2011-05-19 15:27

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Just thought I would share a picture...

http://meetmeego.org/wp-content/uplo...omparision.png

cfh11 2011-05-19 15:29

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
nice find... it certainly implies that the phone will be NFC enabled. and the inclusion of a augmented reality browser implies that there will be a compass. also see a mention to continuous autofocus :D

this is getting more exciting by the day

MONVMENTVM 2011-05-19 15:30

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shady (Post 1010119)
N9/50 == "jessies girl" .... hahahaha

At least Jessie's Girl is the song used in the teaser video, so by saying

"We can’t wait to show you more – maybe a sneak peek at “Jessie’s Girl” – in the weeks to come."

they kinda confirm that the video is legit, the device (however it will be called) is legit and we'll get to know more in a few weeks. So... hell yeaaah :D

cfh11 2011-05-19 15:31

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1010122)
Just thought I would share a picture...

http://meetmeego.org/wp-content/uplo...omparision.png

i think it pretty obvious from this pic that the res is higher than the n900... exactly what it is though i will leave to more technical folks than myself

jflatt 2011-05-19 15:31

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 1010117)
I just googled Nokia RM686 Harmattan these are the results below.
NOw check out the link pkgs - Collabora People for easter eggs ;)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...12da287c2ebdcb

Looks like some FM radio bits in there too, a TI radio chipset nonetheless
USB mode selector (Mass storage/charging? Or OTG?)
shazam
MS PlayReady DRM libs
MMS
Ovi Music
720p DSP codecs
Dolby audio

marrat 2011-05-19 15:31

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 1010117)
I just googled Nokia RM686 Harmattan these are the results below.
NOw check out the link pkgs - Collabora People for easter eggs ;)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...12da287c2ebdcb

Facebook, Twitter, Layar, Koffice, Nokia Drive... :cool:


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