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The specs look fine to me. Better make it cheap and sell more. €400 incl tax on release and then lower the price a bit later on and Jolla will hopefully move a few millions of it.

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That's good for you.

Then you sound as if you are the type that as long as you don't use it, you'll have no use for it. That's fair. But as it stands, it's still a feature of the phone. If it's implemented correctly, it will pull in folks that are on the fence or are used to certain apps that will invariably not be out for Jolla on release day.

Even though I don't need it, there's a few apps that I'll want on day one. Skype might make the cut, but my banking software that I use on my phone now as well as some other stuff - say Adobe Ideas or something for sketching out notes and designs will remain high on my list of desirables. Filter in whatever app you'd consider a must have that Jolla will not have on day one and then tell folks that they will have access... boom. More possible sales if the message gets out.

It won't come with all of the basic applications that I'd want. I know that already.

What points? That folks are bellyaching without giving a valid concern or are countering with even more myopic takes on why it's a waste to want a feature because the person making the counterpoint sees no value in thinking like anybody else other than themselves and their uses?

Yeah. I can see that.

Oh well. We'll see. I wish Jolla the best, and perhaps anything I've said as a "concern" will be washed away on day one of their release. Good times we live in indeed.

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if its the same, then I can extend the space bar's length by simply editing the xml file ...weeeeee

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N9 keyboard was not very good. I always hit the commas or space bar. I hope they don't forget that after wow for UI, people's return their devices due to impractical basics.

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The biggest issue with the n9 keyboard was the screen size. It is simply too small. I fear that the same thing happens to small screen jolla. Writing on small iPhone is simply not good for anyone... I might be fat finger but I see these iPhone users have the phones 2 dm from their eyes to be able to see :D

It's just not all about keyboard, it's about screen size too...

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I meant valid _technical_ points such as: nobody really knows whether 1GB of RAM is too little. It was mentioned that Android's "java" applications can use up to 24MB - so not sure why 1024MB of RAM is too little for that, unless you want to run ~50 applications at the same time.

I'm an N9 user, and my 1GB of RAM is mostly used for file system caching, so I can tell I really won't need that much more for the time being, maybe in a couple of more years.

On the functional area, points made by people according to their usage (such as myself) are also valid, whether you like it or not. Remember the first iPhone? It didn't have copy+paste, it didn't have 3G. The Nokia 5800 had all of those, and yet who sold more? So, the Jolla will have 1GB of RAM only, will the common user even notice?

I wish them the best too... and don't get me wrong - I'd like to see more RAM, I'd like to have 4GB only because I want to be 1GB better than Dave999 ;-), and I'd like that RAM to consume as little power as current 1GB banks, but I'm also aware that these guys want to be successful quickly. I mentioned elsewhere that all they need to do is to make a "pretty phone", that will hopefully do to get them afloat and then they can do something a bit more high end.

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I agree... it's the same problem that the iPhone 4 has. I almost always use Swype in the N9 anyway, and screen size really doesn't matter, but when I use the terminal it could be a bit of a pain, especially if I attempt to type with 1 hand.

You guys are funny :p N9's keyboard was AMONG THE BEST virtual keyboard there is to exist. I rarely have mistakes, heck, I can even type without looking :p iPhone iOS 7's keyboard was a little better, Android's is just horrible. I'm glad to say at least that it will be using maliit :)

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I'm not saying that the N9's keyboard is one of the worst, I'm just agreeing with Dave999 that it could do with a little more real estate. I can't talk about Android ones as the N9's was my third VK, first 5800's and second the iPhone 4's.

I'm pretty sure that if you have a phablet, it will be better just because you won't miss keys as they are so big.

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True multi-tasking... why not? And it better have stellar stability & uptime too. But each app may take 24mb, but what about the compatibility layer itself? Only thing I can compare it to would be BlueStacks on OS X as an instance of where a compatibility layer running a host OS (Android in this case) is a real memory hog at times. Let's hope that's not the case for the Jolla ACL. That is my point really.

As an N9 owner, I can say that I just wonder if more RAM or more swap would have been advantageous. I can speculate - and probably be wrong as hell - but I have no true way of knowing.

I'm patient. So I'm just waiting to see how this ends.