Re: Alternative history: What if Jolla never existed?
 

As it happens I did some pretty ground-breaking work for the first version of ubiboot while travelling by train from Helsinki to Oulu.
(January 2013 if I remember correctly...)

Re: Alternative history: What if Jolla never existed?
 

Trains just happen to be the type of place where you can actually focus on something :)

Re: Alternative history: What if Jolla never existed?
 

Has to do with the fact that desktop UI does not work well on smartphone form factors. But I agree, that it is a shame one has to give up desktop applications for something as big as a tablet. At least the option of using them would be nice, besides the optimized tablet apps.


Agree with that. You should not be forced to use the cloud if you don't want to. There should always be the option of using local sync.

Re: Alternative history: What if Jolla never existed?
 

Couldn't someone at Nokia just give the blueprint of N950 to Jolla to fit there Jolla2 Phone into that sliding case? Well, maybe just not actual concern at Jolla at the moment...

So maybe vice versa: Jolla licencing SFOS and Nokia updates the N950 hardware.

Re: Alternative history: What if Jolla never existed?
 

Microsoft would own all that - why don't you give them a call and ask them if they would be interested in abandoning their Windows 10 effort to focus on Linux phones with physical keyboards?

Re: Alternative history: What if Jolla never existed?
 

ah, bummer! I thought it would fall back to Nokia next year or so?

Re: Alternative history: What if Jolla never existed?
 

As serious as it sounds; it could be their better shot :P (joking)

Re: Alternative history: What if Jolla never existed?
 

Maybe you can't. For me it's great to focus on something.

Same here. But on a train it's easy, I can just pull out my 13" laptop and do whatever I want. What I miss is the ability to do the same in places which aren't so convenient (eg. tram, bus, metro...)

Re: Alternative history: What if Jolla never existed?
 

I wonder if the porting to Android devices would have been given more attention and official support in there was no Jolla device to sell. Are there any devices that have every component working in their ports yet? If there was a model where you could get a basic Sailfish OS working with a nice installer, basic apps, full control of your device and more performance without the Android bloat to rejuvenate old devices, then you could attract whoever isn't happy with what Android did for them without asking today.

Then you add a Sailfish store with paid apps, including the current licensed parts like Alien Dalvik and the text prediction, and you could actually make money. It'd be a stronger business model than Cyanogen even. You could open source much more of Sailfish too without worrying about your revenue stream.

Re: Alternative history: What if Jolla never existed?
 

If meego had died there, we would have the same situation we have now: a duopoly. So no difference in there.


If jolla never existed; where would the difference be?

Assuming libhybris would have been created (that is, before the operating system) a hypotetical jolla-like company , would have had better chances by focussing excusively to skip hardware development and focus on existing hw. This would have allowed them to keep costs at a bare minimum, which would have given them more runway,as well as avoiding hyper-hyped underperforming devices.

Sure, perhaps the initial set of HW would have been extremely limited to start with; but most likely enough to attract attention from operators (and perhaps HW vendors), given the high differentiation from the top two.